Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[SU Backer]

   Roll Gulls didn't get in yet so I will give my prognostication skills a try. I like Brockport to handle Ithaca on the road, Wesley to defeat Huntingdon at home, Duquesne over Frostburg (hope I'm wrong), and Salisbury to beat NNA (hope I'm right-sorry SID!). I leave the scores to Roll!
   Good health to all and GO GULLS!

[Hawks88]

Posting from Dover tonight. A bit of turbulence on the flight into Baltimore this afternoon so that was a rollercoaster for a few minutes but we got in okay. Plus our bag was already to baggage claim by the time we got there. Kudos to BWI there.
Does this happen to anyone else? Whenever I get to the rental car area, why is it that the one I have a reservation for seems to always have a line of ten or twenty people while the other five or six counters have no line at all?
All in all not a bad travel day though.
Any of the regular Wesley posters going to be at the game? Let me know and I'll look you up.
Maybe we can give you a good game tomorrow.

Go Hawks!!

[Ralph Turner]

Good luck, Hawks!

[Hampton U SID]

   Roll Gulls didn't get in yet so I will give my prognostication skills a try. I like Brockport to handle Ithaca on the road, Wesley to defeat Huntingdon at home, Duquesne over Frostburg (hope I'm wrong), and Salisbury to beat NNA (hope I'm right-sorry SID!). I leave the scores to Roll!
   Good health to all and GO GULLS!

SU Backer I would be worried if you did pick us

[AF4]

Hawks88

B safe...have fun...cheer em on
we will b listening on the radio... from the back of a tractor...killing weeds

come home safe

Go Hawks

[PA_wesleyfan]

Hawk88
Not going to make it down this week....Wait until you see how fast Beavers is Hawk
 Wesley has been real close to blowing these teams out but they are just missing on some big deep pass plays.
 
We'll see how the Wolverines regroup after last weeks tough loss. Appears that that game took a lot out of MSU as they lost to NJSU tonight.

Wesley wins this week. If they connect this could be a big win. If not and they and they turn the ball over it could be another nail biter.

Salisbury wins over NNA. NNAsid where is the Offense???

Duquesne over FSU. Frostburg not playing well .

B-port/Ithaca     B-port is in the beginning of a stretch of tough games.. This could be a stepping stone game but I still like Ithaca in this one. Should be a great game

[PA_wesleyfan]

wesleydad

going to have to give us a rundown on the game this week. can't pass up an opportunity to see the first place Phils clinch!!!!

[wesleydad]

pa wesleyfan,

will do.  game should be over by the time phils start so i will probably catch the end of the phils at tgif since we are taking our son to dinner after the game.  as for the game, wesley should win, but again mistakes have to be eliminated.  schatz has to start connecting on the medium to long routes.  i think that would be helped by running some shorter routes early forcing the db's to move up before trying to throw overtop of db's who are 15 to 20 yards down field at the snap.  pennewell ran well again last week and should again today.  last weeks inability to score on a short field the entire second half cost them the game, that has to be changed.  if it is wesley will start putting plenty of points on the board.  enjoy the phils and i know you will be listening to the game.  go wolverines.

[Wesleyfan24]

Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?
   

[AF4]

runnning up the score ?

i agree

not always possible to keep the game i hand and Not run up the score.... but why not play everyone early..... look at things u wanted to try .... practice goalline def in mid field... really.... why pulll the plug (not pullin a dubose).... but pull starters out when game is in hand... be willing to put them in if the other team gets within 21 pts....  play every one a lot

i love winning as much as any one.... but ain't a reason to humiliate unless it is ...welll...pay back ( and that is not right)

keep the faith

[Ralph Turner]

Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?   

YOU PROVE IT, Wesleyfan24!

Use the data that you can find from links that are on this web site.

Prove how Coach Kehres runs up the score.

Prove how it would be classy to begin punting on first down every time you are up by 40 points, just because you only brought your traveling squad of 52 players or however many the OAC permits.

Prove how it is classy to drive 79 yds down the field and then intentionally fumble out of the end zone.

Down in Texas, 6-man football has a 45-point rule.  The game is over when one team is up by 45 points in the second half.  "Forty-fivin'" a team is an insult to the opponent.

Make your case for Mount Union for the President of Mount Union to leave D3 and the Ohio Athletic Conference for all of his 20 men's and women's sports and move to another division.  Do you now eliminate sports because you have to give athletic scholarships to compete in D2?

A school is prohibited from "playing up" and remaining D3 with the exception of "grandfathered" teams who were competing in D1 hockey, soccer and lacrosse "from the beginning".

My team lost to #2 UMHB 61-19 today.  The Cru had too many horses, but we led 3-0 after the first quarter.

I think what is disrespectful is to de-humanize your opponent when you are glaring over him after a sack, or a strut going into the end zone, or some other type of celebration of an event or a play that the fans fully expect you to accomplish.  Imagine your secretary giving high fives after typing "Dear Sir:". 

At the end of a game like MUC or UMHB, I want my opponent to say that even tho' I was losing 40 points, I still came at him full speed; that every time he knocked me onto my rear end, I got back up and came at him again;  that he knew that every play would be graded that night, and he would see that I had given it my all.

Wesleyfan24, the MUC rants are made by people who have not comprehended how Coach Kehres has done it.  There is nothing about the program not to admire.  He does it with class.   Please check out the Mount Union web sites.

Welcome to the boards...    Good luck to Wesley.

[SU Backer]

   Good job today GULLS! Wesley 24, I guess you think Wesley's history starts this year....but I remember 2 years back SU getting "run up" on by 60 plus at Wesley. WESLEY DOES THE SAME THING!!! They threw the ball all day -thru the 4th quarter. You know, I talked to Coach Wood after that game and he told me- "We were beat by a better team, it was our job to stop them, not their job to take it easy on us".  Not one bit of blame for Wesley-none. I could go into the points for/against that help determine home field in the playoffs, being in a conference without a AQ etc., as  reasons for this happening.
By the way- I was at the SU game today.......NNA scored on the SU first team defense, and defensive subs were in for much of the 2nd half. Salisbury scored 42 in the first half- the starters need to play at least a half to stay "game sharp". The last touchdown  SU scored was a long run by the 3rd string fullback......maybe he should have just fell down instead of scoring. The 2nd and 3rd string guys deserve a chance to play in games like this and they should and do play hard.
As far as Mount Union goes- they have a great program and coaches- they don't run it up, they really are that good.
   Welcome to college football.......

[CNU85]

Good win for the Wolverines today.  Overall a solid day, next week Homecoming, Frostburg has always found a way to make it a tough game every year.  Looks like the Wolverine defense and the Running game is on track for Wesley.  I do have a question to pose to all of you.
When is too Much??? 
No. 1 Mount Union  62  Heidelberg  3, No. 15 Washington and Jefferson  64  St. Vincent  6,  Wisconsin Lutheran  2  Olivet  62, Newport News  14  No. 19 Salisbury  62.  Not every blow out this week is listed sorry I don't have the patience.  Since when is it classy to defeat a team 62-3 or 62-14.  Does it mean that coaches just don't care anymore.  I know Salisbury pretty well running the ball like they do takes alot more time then lets say throwing the ball like Wesley.  So when do you call off the dogs.  Coach Sherman and the Gulls are a good team why do you have to completely disgrace the shipbuilders.  "Salisbury steamrolls Shipbuilders" thats what the article says on Salisbury site. Is that completely necessary.  But thats only one instance this year.
Sep. 1  1:00 PM  Averett •  W, 75-7     This one is absurd, learn how to be a gracious winner
Sep. 15  7:00 PM  Otterbein * •  W, 58-14     
Sep. 22  7:00 PM  Muskingum * •  W, 62-0     
Sep. 29  1:30 PM  at Heidelberg * •  W, 62-3 
This is the Mount Union Purple Raiders past 4 games.  How many d3 titles have you won?  Wow Maybe its just me but hey maybe a matchup against a d2 or d1AA school would better suit you.  With scores like this it is evident that you don't respect your opponents.  I don't understand why with these scores being an every year thing why you stay in D3.  Not saying i don't like having a Mount Union in D3 but lets be classy and maybe a little respectful of your opponents.  Just a thought and yes i do realize that Wesley has run up the score before also.  I am just making a statement to spark some thought.  Any takers?
   

The Mt Union Averett game.....Mt Union was trying to find ways to not run up the score.....I heard they were kicking FG's on third down so as not to get a first down and score another TD. I also heard they had massive subs in the first qt.....just stuff i heard....don't know for sure.

[Hawks88]

I wasn't going to mention this, Wesleyfan24, but have you heard of the pot calling the kettle black? Wesley was sure passing a whole lot in the 4th quarter today even though they were already up 3 touchdowns.

[wesleydad]

pa wesleyfan,  just got back from dinner and the drive home.  good game by wesley, huntington was no match.  they were much smaller across the board and wesley dominated the game.  good running attack and the passing game was short to medium, no long passes at all.  hunt did not allow it by playing so far off the ball and wesley finally took advantage with short passes.  pennewell is running real well at this point.  if wesley can keep up the running game, opponents will have plenty to worry about and it should open up the passing game.  good win.