Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Teamski]

Well done Bryan Robinson.  What a great way to finish off your college career!!

-Ski

[AF4]

wesley dad.... brother... your son has a cannon for an arm

me and the boy were watching him throw to k-mack and others... wow

it was great seeing u...and i believe u r correct..yall r not far at all from the 2 we saw playing yesturday

keep the faith

[wesleydad]

af4, it was nice meeting you and your son.  good luck next year.  yea, he can throw a little bit.  after watching wesley play umhb and turn the ball over 5 times, then watch umhb give uww all it could handle, then watch uww control the game against muc, it is hard for me not to think that wesley is close.  they return the entire offense minus clark.  d will have to replace robinson, but could this end up being like uww after kleppe, better overall d.  if they are to make it to the next level they have to fix the fumble problem next year.  jason came away realizing that they are close and i hope he will send that message to the rest of the team.  enjoy the holidays.

[Teamski]

 Well, Wesley winds up 5th ranked for the end of season.    Pretty dang good considering they wound up 7th last year after reaching the semis and 10th before that.  Well done Wolverines!  You guys did one heck of a excellent job this year!  I sure can't wait for next season!!   

-Ski

[Pat Coleman]

Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

[Teamski]

Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski

[Oil Can]

Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski

You used logic and BCS in the same post

Results of a common opponent a week apart gives good reason to consider UMHB as a viable #2 ahead of MUC.  I wouldn't make that call, but I can see the logic.  Plus, the same results, subsequent to the South Region final, put Wesley in a good light

[Pat Coleman]

Helps to be competitive in the final game, to be sure.

Very interesting.  Listening to the podcast in the conversation between you guys, I was surprised that one of the folks mentioned that he wanted to vote MU as 3rd ranked (and was understandibly rebuffed by Keith).  I see this mentality in the BCS as well.  Whoever loses last gets burned the worst even if it lost to a higher ranked team than the team that eventually passes it in the rankings.  I don't understand the logic. 

-Ski

That was me, and I think I've laid out my feelings fairly well already, but I'll repeat:

Just because you lose last doesn't mean you're the second-best team. There were three teams head and shoulders above the rest and UMHB played the best team twice. No surprise they lost both times, right? Who's to say UMHB isn't better than Mount Union, and isn't that what we're ranking, who is the best team? Only the No. 1 team is determined truly on the field. Those who do not beat all comers are subject to scrutiny for exactly who they played to get where they did in the tournament (if they got there) and how they did when they played them.

Based on the data, I voted for UMHB ahead of MUC and others did as well.

[wesleydad]

pat, i agree with you.  wesley was rightfully dropped based on their performance in 2 semis, they were not automatically placed 4th as some would suggest.  this year they played what some believe to be the 2nd best team in the country fairly even and were rewarded for that by being voted 5th.  this is the same thing that happened last year with sjf.  i find it interesting that so many question the logic behind comparing teams against common opponents.  i watched the uww/umhb game on the internet, not the greatest view.  i also saw umhb play wesley live and the stagg bowl.  i came away with the same assessment, that umhb played uww much tougher than muc did and would have had no argument with umhb being voted 2nd.  voting is subjective, and open to debate, but to just dismiss one team because the other team was ranked higher is not being objective.  it seems to me that muc posters say they dont care unless they win it all, but they sure are making a stink about any suggestion that they were not 2nd best.

[Teamski]

I am looking at this too simplisticly I guess, hehehe....

-Ski

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pa_wesleyfan:

The article on the John Hopkins player----rips your heart out...thanks for sharing. You should post the link in Div III in the press.

[PA_wesleyfan]

pa_wesleyfan:

The article on the John Hopkins player----rips your heart out...thanks for sharing. You should post the link in Div III in the press.

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I put it in the articles about DIII  players in the general section.
The story doesn't touch too much on the fact that he worked with the children in Iraq. There was a second soldier from Doylestown who was killed three days before Colby,(Travis Manion) which was mentioned in the story and they both really into helping the Iraqi kids get school supplies.     

[Oil Can]

wesleydad and others,

Our friend Andrew Reed posted about his trip to Salem on his Road Games blog...I think he had a good time!  Enjoy and Happy Holidays to the Wesley faithful (and others!)

http://roadgames07.blogspot.com/

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Happy Holidays to all !!!

[PA_wesleyfan]

Happy Holidays to all the fans of the ACFC football  and to all the poster and non posters (you know who you are) from Wesley who make for a good game experience.