Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

SU Backer · April 03, 2008, 03:15:56 PM

Wow, that Salisbury schedule is a grinder; Albright away- Kelly is as good as Schatz, with just a little less arm strength-this is no gimme at all.....Geneva was a war up there last year and I am sure they will want some payback-tough game number 2.........Chris Newport-enuff said......Delaware Valley....gonna be real tough to beat them 3 times in a row, especially at their house....Newport News away is not a easy one, as I have watched them over the years and they are right there athlete wise.......then onto St. John Fisher in New York-SU will know by this game if they can play with a team of this calibur-hopefully as good as we SU backers want them to be.......I think Lake Erie is a new D2 program so I don't know-but they are scheduled for homecoming ;-)......Becker-if the same QB is there this could break 100 pts total.....ah, then our "friends" from Dover come to the 'bury-as tough as it gets!.......and finish at the Naval Academy against Frostburg who will be with a new staff and always plays their best game against us! All in all a schedule that will get us in the playoffs with 1 or maybe even 2 losses, with that lineup, but we could end up on the outside looking in just as easily.....anyway GO GULLS!!

XSUGull · April 04, 2008, 01:47:13 PM

I agree with SU Backer, this isn't a roll over schedule by any stretch of the imagination. I think the first true test for Salisbury will be the visit from Christopher Newport. We haven't had too much luck playing them on our own turf but hopefully we will be able to turn the tide. That 2004 playoff loss still hurts and the game in 2006 wasn't too much better. I think the September 20 game against the Captains will let the Sea Gulls know where they stand. Delaware Valley is another difficult game. Salisbury handled them fairly easily last year and with the win in the '06 ECAC Bowl game DVC is going to be out for some revenge.

Of course the two big games that really jump out at you are St. John Fisher and Wesley. SJF is a great chance for SU to see how they stack up against perennial powers. Wesley is Wesley and that will always be a tough game.

Then of course the regular-season wraps up with Frostburg.

This could be a very entertaining year in Sea Gull Country as well as the ACFC in general.

Frostie · April 07, 2008, 10:39:23 AM

Frostburg has finally named a new coach - Tom Rogish. He was the linebacker/special teams coach at Shepherd, and was previously the defensive coordinator and associate head coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

XSUGull · April 07, 2008, 01:11:50 PM

I know that Ernie McCook was previously with Frostburg State before he went to Shepard and I wonder if he was in consideration for the job. Looking at some information on Tom Rogish his resume looks rather impressive. He is a former All-American linebacker at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and coached there from 1986 to 2005. I don't know too much about the tradition of IUP football but its good to see the Bobcats finally named a coach.

Frostie · April 08, 2008, 09:33:23 AM

I did hear the Ernie McCook was interviewed, but I've also heard that several colleges have tried to lure him away from Shepherd over the years all to no avail.

My son tells me that Rogish met with the team last night and seems like a real good guy. My son is jazzed up again about playing for him.

PA_wesleyfan · April 08, 2008, 04:17:45 PM

I understand that there were four or five very good coaches that were lined up to interview for the job.

Bigtoe75 · April 09, 2008, 06:36:17 AM

Article on SU's schedule and the difficulty in filling it.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/SPORTS/804090387

XSUGull · April 09, 2008, 09:30:18 AM

I can understand the difficulty in scheduling, especially when you only have four teams in your conference. Trying to find seven out-of-conference games can't be easy. It was nice when Brockport and Buffalo State were in the conference. The conference actually had five ACFC games, but I can understand the departure of those NY schools. It just doesn't make sense geographically for them to compete in a conference with a Delaware, Virginia and two Maryland schools.

I know this has probably come up several times on the boards, but is expanding the conference in the near future? I am sure the current ACFC members would love to steal a Virginia school or two to add to the conference.

Ralph Turner · April 09, 2008, 11:58:08 AM

Quote from: XSUGull on April 09, 2008, 09:30:18 AM
I can understand the difficulty in scheduling, especially when you only have four teams in your conference. Trying to find seven out-of-conference games can't be easy. It was nice when Brockport and Buffalo State were in the conference. The conference actually had five ACFC games, but I can understand the departure of those NY schools. It just doesn't make sense geographically for them to compete in a conference with a Delaware, Virginia and two Maryland schools.

I know this has probably come up several times on the boards, but is expanding the conference in the near future? I am sure the current ACFC members would love to steal a Virginia school or two to add to the conference.

Actually there are no D-III schools in Virginia to steal. Here are my thoughts on the challenges faced by the ACFC schools.

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XSUGull · April 10, 2008, 10:35:46 AM

Here is my thought:

Frostburg could join the Pennsylvania Athletic Conference giving the PAC 10 teams. Just to keep things easy we could call it the PAC-10.

NNA could join the USAC for location reasons and to give that conference a 10th member.

Salisbury and Wesley could each join the New Jersey Athletic Conference to give the NJAC 10 members. I do have an issue with schools from out of the state of New Jersey being in that conference, but I am just brainstorming.

I have noticed that a lot of the conferences have nine members and schools typically play a maximum of eight conference games. Even if a conference has 10 members they would still only play eight games which would leave two open dates. Salisbury and Frostburg could still engage in the Regents Cup which would leave those two schools with only one open date to fill rather than seven.

I know it's a lot more difficult than just picking up and starting over in a new conference but this would give the former ACFC members the automatic bid opportunity.

Just my two cents.

Frostie · April 10, 2008, 11:38:46 AM

I didn't know that the Pennsylvania Athletic Conference did football, although certainly some of the schools do. Shenandoah is an affiliate member for lacrosse - but I don't knwo where they play football at the moment.

I would not at all be surprised to see the ACFC dissolve in 2009.

Hampton U SID · April 10, 2008, 11:59:18 AM

I dont think the PAC has football. Shenandoah plays in it for lacrosse, but in the USASouth for everything else.

NNA in the USA South.....two chances......slim and none and slim just signed off

XSUGull · April 10, 2008, 01:09:36 PM

I apologize...PAC is President's Athletic Conference, not Pennsylvania. I just saw PAC, looked at the members and assumed it was called Pennsylvania Athletic Conference.

wesleydad · April 27, 2008, 07:36:22 PM

hey all, hope all is well with everyone. just got word that brob signed a free agent contract with the arizona cards. brob, good luck in your efforts to play at the next level. work hard and leave nothing to chance, who knows what the future holds, but be in control of it. go wolverines.

PA_wesleyfan · April 27, 2008, 08:44:32 PM

Quote from: wesleydad on April 27, 2008, 07:36:22 PM
hey all, hope all is well with everyone. just got word that brob signed a free agent contract with the arizona cards. brob, good luck in your efforts to play at the next level. work hard and leave nothing to chance, who knows what the future holds, but be in control of it. go wolverines.

here's a link to the release http://athletics.wesley.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.viewHDetail&newsid=679