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Purple Heys

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Quote from: KoHawk01 on December 07, 2007, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on December 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on December 07, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
In case anyone was curious about UD listing Jermar Jackson at 5'10" he said on the Aztec Bowl preview show that I listened to this morning that he is 5'8" and is hopefull some pro team will at least give him a shot at playing  QB but doubts they will because of his height. 

With him admitting to being 2 inches shorter than is listed in the press guide it makes you wonder how much fudging goes on with players height and weight. 

Does he actually have a chance to make an NFL roster.  I know he was good but did I miss something.  Is this kid an NFL type talent?

I dont think you missed anything  ??? He was definitely good for D3, but lets get serious.  The only IIAC guy I know of getting any NFL attention was Brock Hall at Loras but who knows whats going on with that since his season was cut short.... where are all the Loras people on here  >:(   fill us in!

Not to squash anybody's dream but Jermar "Leonidas" Jackson even at 5'10" would have a tough tough time even getting a sniff by someone to come to a camp as a QB.  The scouts are brutal in their assessments and they have a tight profile for positions.  Sadly, Jermar has the heart but not the height.  He has to buck the size profile and the D3 stigma...too much I am afraid

On the other hand Canada is a potential opportunity.  He's a football player.  By that I mean he competes as hard as anyone.  He might get a look as an RB/Receiver there.  His best bet is to get a chance to work out at Iowa's or ISU's Pro Day and see if anyone takes an interest.

A friend of mine's kid plays for UCLA, has been named a starter for two seasons, getting hurt each time...nothing major BTW, just enough to keep him out.   He has an NFL body but doesn't have the body of work.  They are trying to get him a medical redshirt so he can get more game time for the "body of work" to get him a chance to get drafted.  I'm trying to talk him to coming to Cornell for a year to play alongside Heys Jr. (Won't happen, but he would dominate)

The point is, this kid goes 6'3" 270, runs a 4.65 with strength off the charts...will BP 225 lbs. 52 42 times (my bad) IF he can get invited to the combine; but he won't because he lacks that body of work.  He doesn't fit into the tight profile....he didn't play enough.  Still he will get Free Agent looks because he at least fits the physical profile and went to a major university.  My buddy's kid is hoping, like Cromartie from FSU, there are coaches who network and take a chance on a kid who had a hardluck college career.

Michael Allen of Whitworth would not have been invited to the Combine if he were 6'1" 225 lbs.  Genetics don't favor Jackson.
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Purple Heys

Quote from: dbljay21 on December 10, 2007, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: davedevine on December 09, 2007, 10:18:27 PM
Freddy managed to tear it up again today against the dolphins.

15 carries- 115 yds, 1 catch-6 yds.. 0 TD.. had a long run of 27 yds

doesn't appear that he's starting though because Lynch had 23 carries for 107 yds..

It will be interesting to see what happens with that situation.   Lynch was their 1st rd pick out of Cal
and believe it or not there's a lot of polictics in the NFL. (you'd think at that level there wouldn't be ,but there is)
so no matter what Fred does, he might have a hard time becoming the starter.
Either way, he's doing a nice job of making the most of his opportunites when he gets them. 
in 2 games he's avg 130 yds of offense


I think Fred has made his mark in the NFL as a player.  He has value as a special teamer and as a solid backup RB and with alot of teams having success with the RB by Committee (Dallas, Minnesota, Jacksonville, Carolina, and New Orleans) I think the Bills will have a spot for him on the roster next year, maybe as the #2 back. 

Regarding the politics...It is the relative size of the contracts that is doing some dictating here.  You don't pay 1st round money to a guy to warm the bench, especially the RB position where they expect rookies to make an impact.  GM's need to justify their worth.
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TheOne89.1

Quote from: dbljay21 on December 10, 2007, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: davedevine on December 09, 2007, 10:18:27 PM
Freddy managed to tear it up again today against the dolphins.

15 carries- 115 yds, 1 catch-6 yds.. 0 TD.. had a long run of 27 yds

doesn't appear that he's starting though because Lynch had 23 carries for 107 yds..

It will be interesting to see what happens with that situation.   Lynch was their 1st rd pick out of Cal
and believe it or not there's a lot of polictics in the NFL. (you'd think at that level there wouldn't be ,but there is)
so no matter what Fred does, he might have a hard time becoming the starter.
Either way, he's doing a nice job of making the most of his opportunites when he gets them. 
in 2 games he's avg 130 yds of offense


I think Fred has made his mark in the NFL as a player.  He has value as a special teamer and as a solid backup RB and with alot of teams having success with the RB by Committee (Dallas, Minnesota, Jacksonville, Carolina, and New Orleans) I think the Bills will have a spot for him on the roster next year, maybe as the #2 back. 

He definitely has caught plenty of attention around the league.  It will be interesting to see what happens with him.  Plenty of teams out there that could use Jackson as a starter or back-up.  As a Bears fan I could see him giving Peterson a run for his money and possibly even Benson.  Send him off to back-up a top of the league RB and he could learn pretty quickly how to improve his game.
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DF1 - Mark Woodley is NOT with  KWWL any longer. Other than Rick Coleman they gone through a lot of staff in the sports department lately.

I do remember the Big Peach - even when it was in the weekday paper not just Sundays. (Yes I'm old) The paper "Iowa Depends On" really went down in quality when it closed all of it's bureaus in towns around the state and a lot of them were in Ia conf. towns.

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doolittledog

Quote from: Purple Heys on December 10, 2007, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: KoHawk01 on December 07, 2007, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on December 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on December 07, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
In case anyone was curious about UD listing Jermar Jackson at 5'10" he said on the Aztec Bowl preview show that I listened to this morning that he is 5'8" and is hopefull some pro team will at least give him a shot at playing  QB but doubts they will because of his height. 

With him admitting to being 2 inches shorter than is listed in the press guide it makes you wonder how much fudging goes on with players height and weight. 

Does he actually have a chance to make an NFL roster.  I know he was good but did I miss something.  Is this kid an NFL type talent?

I dont think you missed anything  ??? He was definitely good for D3, but lets get serious.  The only IIAC guy I know of getting any NFL attention was Brock Hall at Loras but who knows whats going on with that since his season was cut short.... where are all the Loras people on here  >:(   fill us in!

Not to squash anybody's dream but Jermar "Leonidas" Jackson even at 5'10" would have a tough tough time even getting a sniff by someone to come to a camp as a QB.  The scouts are brutal in their assessments and they have a tight profile for positions.  Sadly, Jermar has the heart but not the height.  He has to buck the size profile and the D3 stigma...too much I am afraid

On the other hand Canada is a potential opportunity.  He's a football player.  By that I mean he competes as hard as anyone.  He might get a look as an RB/Receiver there.  His best bet is to get a chance to work out at Iowa's or ISU's Pro Day and see if anyone takes an interest.

A friend of mine's kid plays for UCLA, has been named a starter for two seasons, getting hurt each time...nothing major BTW, just enough to keep him out.   He has an NFL body but doesn't have the body of work.  They are trying to get him a medical redshirt so he can get more game time for the "body of work" to get him a chance to get drafted.  I'm trying to talk him to coming to Cornell for a year to play alongside Heys Jr. (Won't happen, but he would dominate)

The point is, this kid goes 6'3" 270, runs a 4.65 with strength off the charts...will BP 225 lbs. 52 times IF he can get invited to the combine; but he won't because he lacks that body of work.  He doesn't fit into the tight profile....he didn't play enough.  Still he will get Free Agent looks because he at least fits the physical profile and went to a major university.  My buddy's kid is hoping, like Cromartie from FSU, there are coaches who network and take a chance on a kid who had a hardluck college career.

Michael Allen of Whitworth would not have been invited to the Combine if he were 6'1" 225 lbs.  Genetics don't favor Jackson.


To be fair to Jermar, that's kind of what he was getting at.  He said he would love for someone to give him a shot but he knew with his height it probably wouldn't happen. 

warthog

The way to get action at the Des Moines Register would be for everyone on this site to send a letter to the sports editor.  Don't be bitchy, just give the facts.  Perhaps someone could explain how many former Iowa high school athletes are playing at various colleges in the IIAC. 

One thing that has worked in a local small town daily is to send copies of the information that shows up on school web-sites as written by the SIDs.  I know that got action concerning the IIAC all-conference and academic all-conference teams in football and cross country a couple years ago.  The local sports editor received both the releases from Wartburg and Luther and behold the next day there was sport section headlines.
BE ORANGE

warthog

At that time Emperor Augustus ordered a census to be taken throughout the Roman Empire.  When the first census took place Quirinius was the govenor of Syria.  Everyone then went to register himself each to his own hometown.

Joseph went from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to the town of Bethlehem in Judea, the birthplace of King David. Joseph went there because he was a decendant of David.

(to be continued)
BE ORANGE

footballdaddy

Thanks, Warthog, for a reminder of what this season is about. I am ready for your next installment of the Greatest Story Ever Told.
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FBD: "I didn't know touchdown was French."

DutchFan2004

Quote from: warthog on December 10, 2007, 03:12:18 PM
At that time Emperor Augustus ordered a census to be taken throughout the Roman Empire.  When the first census took place Quirinius was the govenor of Syria.  Everyone then went to register himself each to his own hometown.

Joseph went from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to the town of Bethlehem in Judea, the birthplace of King David. Joseph went there because he was a decendant of David.

(to be continued)

Thanks for the reminder Warthog.  We all need to hear this story.
Play with Passion  Coach Ron Schipper

DutchFan2004

I think that for NE Iowa KWWL had the best coverage IMO.  They used to have Friday Night Lights for the High Schools a 30 minute show at 10:30 every Friday night.  They also showed the Knights a lot on the Saturday evening shows.  Paul Burmiester used to do a lot of the game of the weeks for the football show.  I know CR station also had a show can't think of the name of it.  Channel 5 does a good job here is Central Iowa.  I think that if we did put the collective heads together they may see there is a market for it. 



I would be willing to say that if you put all the IIAC schools together they have a following of an Iowa or Iowa State.  Well at least Iowa State ;D  What does Iowa State have for attendance?  50,000 a game.  Well take 9 IIAC schools that is only 5,600 or so per school.  I really think that the media (with the exception of Pat and D3) are missing out on a segment of readers/viewers. 
Play with Passion  Coach Ron Schipper

DutchFan2004

Just to get the board in a Christmas Spirit here is some +K for the last three pages.  Don't really have time to do more.  Hope all is well with the IIAC Post Pattern people.   :)
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the_mayne_event

Quote from: Purple Heys on December 10, 2007, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: KoHawk01 on December 07, 2007, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on December 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on December 07, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
In case anyone was curious about UD listing Jermar Jackson at 5'10" he said on the Aztec Bowl preview show that I listened to this morning that he is 5'8" and is hopefull some pro team will at least give him a shot at playing  QB but doubts they will because of his height. 

With him admitting to being 2 inches shorter than is listed in the press guide it makes you wonder how much fudging goes on with players height and weight. 

Does he actually have a chance to make an NFL roster.  I know he was good but did I miss something.  Is this kid an NFL type talent?

I dont think you missed anything  ??? He was definitely good for D3, but lets get serious.  The only IIAC guy I know of getting any NFL attention was Brock Hall at Loras but who knows whats going on with that since his season was cut short.... where are all the Loras people on here  >:(   fill us in!

Not to squash anybody's dream but Jermar "Leonidas" Jackson even at 5'10" would have a tough tough time even getting a sniff by someone to come to a camp as a QB.  The scouts are brutal in their assessments and they have a tight profile for positions.  Sadly, Jermar has the heart but not the height.  He has to buck the size profile and the D3 stigma...too much I am afraid

On the other hand Canada is a potential opportunity.  He's a football player.  By that I mean he competes as hard as anyone.  He might get a look as an RB/Receiver there.  His best bet is to get a chance to work out at Iowa's or ISU's Pro Day and see if anyone takes an interest.

A friend of mine's kid plays for UCLA, has been named a starter for two seasons, getting hurt each time...nothing major BTW, just enough to keep him out.   He has an NFL body but doesn't have the body of work.  They are trying to get him a medical redshirt so he can get more game time for the "body of work" to get him a chance to get drafted.  I'm trying to talk him to coming to Cornell for a year to play alongside Heys Jr. (Won't happen, but he would dominate)

The point is, this kid goes 6'3" 270, runs a 4.65 with strength off the charts...will BP 225 lbs. 52 times IF he can get invited to the combine; but he won't because he lacks that body of work.  He doesn't fit into the tight profile....he didn't play enough.  Still he will get Free Agent looks because he at least fits the physical profile and went to a major university.  My buddy's kid is hoping, like Cromartie from FSU, there are coaches who network and take a chance on a kid who had a hardluck college career.

Michael Allen of Whitworth would not have been invited to the Combine if he were 6'1" 225 lbs.  Genetics don't favor Jackson.


225 52 times? that would shatter any record of current nfl players let alone guys at the combine.. not saying its impossible, but that is insane.  larry allen has the record at like 43or something
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Purple Heys

Quote from: Purple Heys on December 10, 2007, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on December 07, 2007, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on December 07, 2007, 07:52:32 PM
Oh by the way...the weather out there in Iowa is insane!

I look at home prices every time I travel out there "just to look".  And I think to myself, the folks are nice, there's no crowds, nice quiet pace of life in general...but that's in the early Fall.  The Winter hits like a "Bayonne Bleeder" Chuck Wepner below-the-belt special.

So what if selling my modest shack in Socal would net me a palacial mansion in the cornfields...it would be in freaking snow and ice right now!

We have a place for the snow out here and we can visit it when we want to on weekends in the mountains.  Of course I have to fight traffic to get there.

8)





Hey Purple, real men can handle the cold weather  ;D ;D ;D

Dooey Dog... I can handle the cold...I live in NORTH County San Diego.

;D


I am pretty sure that when you buy property in SoCal, some of the extra $$ you pay for property is to purchase extra good weather.  You guys get what's left over.  Apparently not much.   8)

And our Governator can kick your governor's a$$.  He's part bionicle you know...

:D
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

Purple Heys

Quote from: the_mayne_event on December 10, 2007, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on December 10, 2007, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: KoHawk01 on December 07, 2007, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on December 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on December 07, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
In case anyone was curious about UD listing Jermar Jackson at 5'10" he said on the Aztec Bowl preview show that I listened to this morning that he is 5'8" and is hopefull some pro team will at least give him a shot at playing  QB but doubts they will because of his height. 

With him admitting to being 2 inches shorter than is listed in the press guide it makes you wonder how much fudging goes on with players height and weight. 

Does he actually have a chance to make an NFL roster.  I know he was good but did I miss something.  Is this kid an NFL type talent?

I dont think you missed anything  ??? He was definitely good for D3, but lets get serious.  The only IIAC guy I know of getting any NFL attention was Brock Hall at Loras but who knows whats going on with that since his season was cut short.... where are all the Loras people on here  >:(   fill us in!

Not to squash anybody's dream but Jermar "Leonidas" Jackson even at 5'10" would have a tough tough time even getting a sniff by someone to come to a camp as a QB.  The scouts are brutal in their assessments and they have a tight profile for positions.  Sadly, Jermar has the heart but not the height.  He has to buck the size profile and the D3 stigma...too much I am afraid

On the other hand Canada is a potential opportunity.  He's a football player.  By that I mean he competes as hard as anyone.  He might get a look as an RB/Receiver there.  His best bet is to get a chance to work out at Iowa's or ISU's Pro Day and see if anyone takes an interest.

A friend of mine's kid plays for UCLA, has been named a starter for two seasons, getting hurt each time...nothing major BTW, just enough to keep him out.   He has an NFL body but doesn't have the body of work.  They are trying to get him a medical redshirt so he can get more game time for the "body of work" to get him a chance to get drafted.  I'm trying to talk him to coming to Cornell for a year to play alongside Heys Jr. (Won't happen, but he would dominate)

The point is, this kid goes 6'3" 270, runs a 4.65 with strength off the charts...will BP 225 lbs. 52 42 times (my bad) IF he can get invited to the combine; but he won't because he lacks that body of work.  He doesn't fit into the tight profile....he didn't play enough.  Still he will get Free Agent looks because he at least fits the physical profile and went to a major university.  My buddy's kid is hoping, like Cromartie from FSU, there are coaches who network and take a chance on a kid who had a hardluck college career.

Michael Allen of Whitworth would not have been invited to the Combine if he were 6'1" 225 lbs.  Genetics don't favor Jackson.


225 52 times? that would shatter any record of current nfl players let alone guys at the combine.. not saying its impossible, but that is insane.  larry allen has the record at like 43 or something

I called his dad to confirm...the number is 42 at UCLA's strength tests...He did 52 reps on a squat test.

I mixed it up...but he is a manster.  I know the kid, have known him since he was a fat, flabby 12 year old.  He discovered wrestling, became the state HW freestyle and G-R champion and there ain't no fat no more.  He is a work out hound that can play some football.  He has had just bad luck staying healthy.  Was the starting DE last year then tweaked a knee...Hickman comes in and plays like an All-American, so our kid is odd man out again.  He pencils in as the starter this year and a concussion and freak groin injury robs him of his senior year.

We had a saying for a certain type of gym rat that got all rocked up but couldn't play a lick.  Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane....not this kid.  Would look good in Ram's horns for a season.
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

doolittledog

I'll take a little snow so my kids can make snow men in our yard...you can keep your earthquakes and wildfires ;)

And yes, the Governator could kick our wimpy governors butt from here to Austria and back ;D

I thought maybe your lack of posting recently meant you had bought into our posts about how it's not really too bad here in the winter and you were busy looking up Iowa real estate on the internet and hammering in that for sale sign in your front yard  :P

I already can't wait for next season.  I find myself looking everyday at UD's webcam for their new stadium!!!