FB: American Rivers Conference

[Klopenhiemer]

I wonder if over the top meant telling players he would be bringing in recruits that were better than them???  It's one thing to tell players no starting spots are secure and you have to win your starting spot because he will be bringing in some good talent.  It's another to tell the returning players you will bring in better players.  That's not respecting the talent that is currently there.  

Another thing about Zweifel, he was the heir apparent at Whitewater and the administration found reason not to hire him last year.  It makes you wonder why they didn't hire him when he had been there forever.  

It is a legit question about why he didn't get the Whitewater job!  The current Whitewater coach was a UW-W alum who played football for the retired coach.  Before getting the job, he was coordinator as a very successful Nebraska-Omaha program, but Zweifel had head coaching experience and lots of North Central Conference experience as a coordinator at Northern Colorado and Mankato.

Durnin worked under Zweifel at Mankato and at Yankton College.  A current member of the Whitewater staff not only worked with Zweifel at Whitewater but also worked under him at UM-Morris.

FIC..Nice post.  I think you brought up some great points. 

Think about this.  He leaves UWW and they win a national title.  Just something to chew on and keep the board moving

Jim Zalesky won three national team titles after Dan Gable retired in 1997.  Sometimes it takes a few years before knowing how good of a coach someone is.

Jim Zalesky is a good man and a good wrestling coach, but those three national titles had a lot to do with Dan Gable and the work Jimmy Z did as an assistant under Dan.  I like what I have been seeing lately under Tom Brands.

Thats kind of what I am saying.  Same things with the IL head basketball coach.  Takes a team to the national title game with kids he did not recruit.  Things have changed since those kids left and his kids came in. 
I think Tom B. is the man that will put IA back on top of the wrestling world again.  But look who is back helping the program out again.  Dan G. 

[sc_stormchaser]

any news on luther? How about the staff at simpson?

My sources report that Lounsberry is out, the new head coach brought an OC with him.  Don't know his name.
At this point, all other coaches still on staff (as far as we know, they've been out recruiting....)

Whats the deal with Lounsberry, wasnt this a high profile deal when he came back to Simpson?  Does the majority not like him, or what is the deal with him.  I know this might be a question that might require 8 pages of explanation so the cliff notes version would be outstanding if you can give any information. 

I don't know for sure what actually happened - whether it was just a case of the head coach bringing in his own guy or if there was more to it.  My personal opinion - now that he's gone and my kids are done I'll speak a little more freely - he was very arrogant and even though he had an impressive resume on paper, if you dig deeper it was deceiving.  Game in and game out his play calling was bad.  The kids also did not like or (more importantly) respect him - regardless of whether they played offense or defense.  I think it would have been a bad situation if he had gotten the head job and from what I heard, the returning players voiced that.   Niemann was a class act but in my opinion Lounsberry does not fall in that category.  I will never bad mouth Simpson football as my kids both had a great experience there but a change was needed and from the sounds of it, the new staff will be a positive thing. 

Didnt Lounsberry leave South Carolina for the Simpson coordinator job?  If he did not leave there then please clarify.  If he did that seems very fishy. 

I'm pretty sure he had been at Temple for a year between South Carolina and Simpson.  I think 0-12 would make you want to go just about anywhere but Philly. If you look at where he's been the last few years, nothing seems too "fishy." He was at South Carolina until Holtz resigned (maybe fired, I'm not sure), then was with Temple for a year and I think that staff was fired after the season.

[Alfredeneumann]

Da 1- What kind of offense if UW- L run?

[ftball66]

I would say two things:

(1) UWL, over the tenure that both coaches were at their respective institutions, has been more successful then UWW based on conference championships, playoff appearances, and national championships. UWW has had the most recent success and received their first National Championship this year. UWL was conference champions 02,03,04 - UWW was conference champions 05,06,07 - I will say a big difference was that UWW made it to the stagg each of those seasons..

(2) Zwiefel also had some major public relation issues during his time at UWW, thus effecting his ability to obtain the head job last year. UWW Administration new for them to continue their success they would need to hire someone else - and what a heck of a job they've done!!

[doolittledog]

Welcome to the board ftball66...Z had public relations issues like what???  Caught with strippers in a hotel room like the former Alabama coach???  DWI arrest after a party??? 

[Klopenhiemer]

Welcome to the board ftball66...Z had public relations issues like what???  Caught with strippers in a hotel room like the former Alabama coach???  DWI arrest after a party??? 

Please add relations with cheerleaders, and snorting blow off female body parts to the list of possible reasons for public relations related issues. 

[Klopenhiemer]

any news on luther? How about the staff at simpson?

My sources report that Lounsberry is out, the new head coach brought an OC with him.  Don't know his name.
At this point, all other coaches still on staff (as far as we know, they've been out recruiting....)

Whats the deal with Lounsberry, wasnt this a high profile deal when he came back to Simpson?  Does the majority not like him, or what is the deal with him.  I know this might be a question that might require 8 pages of explanation so the cliff notes version would be outstanding if you can give any information. 

I don't know for sure what actually happened - whether it was just a case of the head coach bringing in his own guy or if there was more to it.  My personal opinion - now that he's gone and my kids are done I'll speak a little more freely - he was very arrogant and even though he had an impressive resume on paper, if you dig deeper it was deceiving.  Game in and game out his play calling was bad.  The kids also did not like or (more importantly) respect him - regardless of whether they played offense or defense.  I think it would have been a bad situation if he had gotten the head job and from what I heard, the returning players voiced that.   Niemann was a class act but in my opinion Lounsberry does not fall in that category.  I will never bad mouth Simpson football as my kids both had a great experience there but a change was needed and from the sounds of it, the new staff will be a positive thing. 

Didnt Lounsberry leave South Carolina for the Simpson coordinator job?  If he did not leave there then please clarify.  If he did that seems very fishy. 

I'm pretty sure he had been at Temple for a year between South Carolina and Simpson.  I think 0-12 would make you want to go just about anywhere but Philly. If you look at where he's been the last few years, nothing seems too "fishy." He was at South Carolina until Holtz resigned (maybe fired, I'm not sure), then was with Temple for a year and I think that staff was fired after the season.

Here is what I define as fishy.  Coach reaches the pinacle of college football coaching.  He is coaching at the d1 level not matter how good or bad the team is.  Then he finds him self back in Indianola as a coordinator.  Now its my understanding that his services were not retained.  I guess its a little mind blowing that a coach would leave that level of football and go to a d3 school and not run the program.  I understand Simpson alum and that does play into things, but I see that as somewhat of a step down in career progression. 

[doolittledog]

Welcome to the board ftball66...Z had public relations issues like what???  Caught with strippers in a hotel room like the former Alabama coach???  DWI arrest after a party??? 

Please add relations with cheerleaders, and snorting blow off female body parts to the list of possible reasons for public relations related issues. 

I would at least hope he kept those off his resume and Luther found out about them through due diligence.  Unlike Notre Dame when they didn't figure out things O'Leary left off his resume like attending UD for 2 years!!!    

Maybe we could come up with a top 10 list of public relations distasters that could keep a coach from getting a job 

[Thunderbolt]

 Careful there boys, not everyone is going to see your attempt at humor all that humorous. Especially not any family members who may be reading.

[doolittledog]

Point taken Thunderbolt. 

[Klopenhiemer]

I was geared up for a rather comical list but I will refrain. 

Thunderbolt I appreciate you seeing that I making that post.  Point taken. 

[Thunderbolt]

 No problem with me, but I seen this happen within the last year on a nearby board involving some of the same people.

[dutchfan1]

Wow -- you guys are getting to be so PC in the off season.... 

[footballdaddy]

I believe a big reason Lounsberry went to Simpson is that his mother is still living in the McCallsburg area and he wanted to be closer to her. I believe she is in her 80's. I bet he thought he could end up with the HC job at Simpson and retire there. He's a great recruiter, too bad his coaching didn't work out as well.

[Thunderbolt]

Wow -- you guys are getting to be so PC in the off season.... 

I so don't fit that mold. Just trying to spin us into safer waters. But at least now I can say I was at least accused of being politically correct once. I'm 1/3 Norwegian, but seldom feel the need to wear animal antlers on my hat, and raping and pillaging rarely enter my mind any more. But, I still read Haggar The Horrible, and enjoy a good Ole and Lena joke.