FB: American Rivers Conference

[Klopenhiemer]

You bring up an interesting point devine.  BV has had and does have again the bye week on week 2.  I have thought this is the worst time for a bye week.  The guys go through 2 weeks of camp itching for the first game.  Then they come out play the first game and have two more weeks of practice before they can play another game. 

Some would see this as a great time to get your whole offense in and deffense in.  I think we all know that installing the whole offense and deffense might not be the best course of action. 

So its almost like having two opening games, and it takes you till the 3rd game, 4th week of the season to start the ball rolling.  I would like to see them move this further down the line, but it has yet to happen.  Last year you see the Beavs come out and shock Bethel, only to go lay and egg two weeks later in Wavetown.  We all know that Bethel had a strong ball club, it was the first week of the season, but what gives.  I think time between the games has a lot to do with it.  IMO. 

Am of the opinion the week two bye is a hindrance or a furtherance dependent on two nodes of information.

The first week game could be played as a warmup game by scheduling lesser competition or to plumb the depths as an out of conference battle of the heavy hitting uncontesteds.

The third week game could be managed in the latter scenario with a warmup game, preferably with the weakest of the conference foes to either continue weak one success into week three or to partition a shot taken at a biggun from what ultimately matters going froward from that point, a conference cred or championship and maybe a rematch with the loss in the playoffs.

The former scenario, a warmup game in week one, is the best way to rally the troops for a traditionally tough conference contest in week three.  Coaches get the opportunity to evaluate the players, and the head man gets a grasp as to how best manage that year's team's chemistry.  Probably the best formula for asserting one's self on a conference when right on the cusp IMHO.

Third scenario, schedule mediocre or less than rivalrous or momentous games before and after, which is the equivalent of pissing upstream.

signed,
Wally Gator   

So are you saying that this is a bad thing or a good thing?  I am having a hard time understanding. 

Let me try my take at this. 

You are saying with the bye week in week 2 then load your heavy competition towards the end of your schedule and carry a couple cupcakes in week 1 and 3.  Then this gets the program a couple wins, and starts to get the ball rolling. 

Are you saying that scheduling two hard teams at the start ot the season with a bye in week 2 can be detrimental to the season. 

If this is what you are saying then I agree completely. 

[Klopenhiemer]

After being in the basement for the weekend.......I took a good half an hour to read and catch-up. 

I just wanted everyone on here to know that I think the argument about Karma was the dumbest one I have ever come across on here.  You guys need to relax a little and realize that this is a message board and not to take the little things so seriously. 

Its called cabin fever brutha.  There is nothing else better to do.  +k tho. 

[youcantseeme]

Maybe we could expand the convo a little then...........

Really until Coe hires a new coach, there isn't much to chat about.  How about other topics?  College BBall, big trades in the NBA, guy almost gets his head cut off in a hockey game last night, pitchers and catchers reporting........

Thanks for the +K.........right back at ya.

[youcantseeme]

Nevermind Klop.  Is there some kind of requirement to be able to add, subtract karma??  If not, someone please explain.........

I must have sat too close to some UD fans this weekend and got sum dumber thru osmosis.

[youcantseeme]

I must have sat too close to some UD fans this weekend and got sum dumber thru osmosis.

I kid, because I care!

[doolittledog]

I must have sat too close to some UD fans this weekend and got sum dumber thru osmosis.

I kid, because I care!

Good thing you said UD and not Coe or I'd be about 3 pages away from catching up and you would be down 10 karma points  I kid...I kid

Actually we have had a bit to talk about for it being the off season and all.  People have been posting about hottest/coldest/snowyest/wettest(are those actual words??? I have a UD education!!!) games they have ever been to.  Purple Heys brought up who he thinks will be the preseason favorite and his reasons for thinking so.  I am thinking most people will chime in on their favorite teams strengths and weaknesses.  Plus we have the whole "who will Coe pick as their new HC?" thing going on as well as talk of the IIAC's first year of spring ball!!!

Once you get to 200 posts you are karma enabled...which means you can give or take karma from people depending on how you feel about their posts.  Karma gets brought up from time to time because someone might go a few days without posting only to find they are down 5 or 10 points and they wonder what the heck is going on. 

I'll post my thoughts for UD on the upcoming season later today. 

[youcantseeme]

I got some work to do then to get to 200........maybe I will make a lot of illogical, ill-advised points in quick succession to get there.  We shall see.

[Gray Fox]

I got some work to do then to get to 200........maybe I will make a lot of illogical, ill-advised points in quick succession to get there.  We shall see.

You wouldn't be the first one.   Some never stopped.

[doolittledog]

Speaking of useless posts...but I am eating lunch and my boss can't get mad at me because I am the boss.

Non-con games for next season so far...

BV - Sept. 6th UW-Platteville, Oct. 25th Waldorf
Central - Sept. 6th Lakeland, Sept. 27 @Albion
Coe - Sept. 6th @Augustana, Sept. 13th Gustavus Adolphus
Cornell - Unk, Unk
Dubuque - Sept. 6th Rockford, Sept. 13th @ Redlands
Loras - Unk, Unk
Luther - Sept. 6th St. Olaf, Oct. 8th @Waldorf
Simpson - Sept. 6th Grandview, Sept. 13th @ Northwestern (Mn)
Wartburg - Sept. 6th St. Norberts, Sept. 13 @ Augsburg

[youcantseeme]

I am assuming that Unk means "unknown"  If that is the case, the proper abbreviation would be UKN.  Just FYI. 

ha another post closer to holding all of your Karma fates in the palm of my hand.

[doolittledog]

I am assuming that Unk means "unknown"  If that is the case, the proper abbreviation would be UKN.  Just FYI. 

ha another post closer to holding all of your Karma fates in the palm of my hand.

Remember my UD education 

[Superfoot Wallace]

So are you saying that this is a bad thing or a good thing?  I am having a hard time understanding. 

Let me try my take at this. 

You are saying with the bye week in week 2 then load your heavy competition towards the end of your schedule and carry a couple cupcakes in week 1 and 3.  Then this gets the program a couple wins, and starts to get the ball rolling. 

Are you saying that scheduling two hard teams at the start ot the season with a bye in week 2 can be detrimental to the season. 

If this is what you are saying then I agree completely. 

Not saying two tough teams to open the season is a bad thing, if the club can swing it. 

And definitely not saying to frontload the schedule with cupcakes and leave the tough ones for the end.

Am of the opinion one way to build Mo' is to start that first week out the gate with a  non-conference heavy hitter, then ease off the gas a little in the scheduling department in week 3.  Opportunity to best represent the conference laying it all on the line without concern as to health the following week and either build Mo' or write it off.

In the alternative, play a warm up game against the LSOP the first week.  Schedule a known, most likely conference, opponent that will carry the team's focus through the bye week.  A team that your ball club either knows is hungry to beat them or a ball club your team is hungry to beat.

In short am advising one tough opponent and one weak opponent between weeks one and three.  Wouldn't shy away from a pair of rocktrolls in those first two games either, but that has proven a stiff wind for my alma mater recently which Wabash has been keen to capitalize on. 

In no way do I think a team should open with patsy after patsy.  Even in conference schedules like the WIAC and the OAC that will grind a team down to nubs you want to see teams seeking out tough non-con's so we prognositcators can have facts to support our meaningless plumbing on these boards.  Thought it was commendable for Marietta to seek out St. John's this past year, knowing what wait ahead in conference play, but thought it might have been wiser to play a Wilmington the next week as opposed to a perennial conference stud recently down on their luck.

best regards,
the Firth of Forthe

[Kohawk Krazy]

I am assuming that Unk means "unknown"  If that is the case, the proper abbreviation would be UKN.  Just FYI. 

ha another post closer to holding all of your Karma fates in the palm of my hand.

I thought they were going big time and playing University of Nebraska Kearney (UNK) twice during the season...

[DutchFan2004]

With Central, UD, Coe, BV all replacing productive QB's (Isn't Simpson also...I'm just not sure there) and Luther looking at life w/o Sherden...there is a lot of stat sheet to fill out for those guys.

The Kaniggets more defensive lean last year with the return of Yordi (with a year displacement from last year's woes)...they just don't seem to have to replace as many major contributors on offense.

Simpson has Dietz back this year must replace Kain at receiver but do get Stoner back from injury

Doesnt the Storm have Unkrich (sp) back as well?

[DutchFan2004]

I am assuming that Unk means "unknown"  If that is the case, the proper abbreviation would be UKN.  Just FYI. 

ha another post closer to holding all of your Karma fates in the palm of my hand.

Remember my UD education 

Flag the post!!!!!!!!  Doolittle acknowledges this finally