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[doolittledog]

Last two posts on IIAC womens soccer

Cornell has hired a new women's soccer coach:

http://www.iowaconference.com/news/2007-08/0808cornell_joyce.html

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There is actually a decent amount of talk on IIAC soccer at bigsoccer.com  maybe I should tell them they can talk over here as well.

[doolittledog]

IIAC endowments as of 2005

Buena Vista ... $110,500,000
Luther ... $73,600,000
Cornell ... $63,800,000
Central ... $62,000,000
Simpson ... $58,000,000
Coe ... $56,300,000
Wartburg ... $35,000,000
Loras ... 23,600,000
Dubuque ... Not Listed

http://home.mchsi.com/~wartburgaaup2/AAUP_newslttr_Oct_05.pdf

From US News & World Report 2008 Best colleges endowments stand as...

Buena Vista - 130,454,220
Luther - 97,673,391
Coe - 76,803,235
Central - 72,442,818
Simpson - 71,347,121
Cornell - 69,166,653
Dubuque - 47,067,695
Wartburg - 40,915,153
Loras - 25,941,634

Here is the link... http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php

Since the US News issue on best 2008 colleges comes out in 2007 I can't tell you if the data is for 2006 or up to date of the publishing in 2007.  But it is more current than 2005.  Interesting how some of the endowments have grown in just two years. 

[DutchFan2004]

I'm guessing by TME's earlier post that someone was offered and turned it down. If something like that happens, it could set the search back a long ways.

Does anyone else find the whole Coe thing very strange?

I ventured into this territory a while ago and Charlie puffed up like a big rooster, and sent my post back with red pen marks for me to revise and resend. 

So this time I am not going to make any harsh statements, or any bold statments. 

I really thought that their would be more information regarding this, and an announcement by now. 

But it sounds like recruiting is going well for them, so they might not need to hire a new head coach.  Didn't someone say coaching by committe? 8)

Fair point.  From a strictly PR standpoint, if Coe's recruiting efforts have not dropped off, then they may be better off not making an announcement for about 10-14 days.  Anything they would announce between now and about the 10th of March would not get much media coverage because it would be fighting for airtime/column inches with the state basketball tournaments.  But if they could make the announcement the 10th or 11th, they could get a day or two worth of coverage before attention shifts to the Big 10 and Big 12 basketball tournaments and the Big Dance.

Not to offend there SK but do you really think that Coe thinks that they will garner all that much press on the timing?  I don't think the big papers in the state care with the exception of the CR paper.  The TV stations may give their obligatory announcements on the the show and then move on.  I don't think timing of the annoucement makes all that much difference as to the amount of press/air time that a D3 college would get here in the state.  I will give you K for the post as it was thoughtful and maybe a good idea but in practicality dont' think it would make a difference.

[rookie11]

I'm guessing by TME's earlier post that someone was offered and turned it down. If something like that happens, it could set the search back a long ways.

Does anyone else find the whole Coe thing very strange?

I ventured into this territory a while ago and Charlie puffed up like a big rooster, and sent my post back with red pen marks for me to revise and resend. 

So this time I am not going to make any harsh statements, or any bold statments. 

I really thought that their would be more information regarding this, and an announcement by now. 

But it sounds like recruiting is going well for them, so they might not need to hire a new head coach.  Didn't someone say coaching by committe? 8)

[rookie11]

Word on the street is atleast two people have turned Coe down

[Klopenhiemer]

Rookie, you are starting to prove what I am thinking. This whole deal is stange. Why would two people turn down the job? 

[doolittledog]

Word on the street is atleast two people have turned Coe down

Well we know 1 was Purple Heys because of the whole crunchberries deal.

What is with all this cloak and dagger stuff...word on the street and other talk???  I want details, names, stuff like that!!!

[Walston Hoover]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

[doolittledog]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

[DutchFan2004]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

Well money is a large issue.  If the article has any weight why to go Coe for $65k when you can go to BSC for $150k?

[the_mayne_event]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

Well money is a large issue.  If the article has any weight why to go Coe for $65k when you can go to BSC for $150k?

only reason i can think of is if your an alum from a certain school, maybe you would want to finish your career where you started...

[BeaverOfYore]

According to a cost-of-living calculator which can be found at http://www.bestplaces.net/col

"To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $65,000 in Des Moines, Iowa could decrease to $61,977 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Stated another way, it's 4.7% cheaper to live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa than Des Moines, Iowa"

and

"To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $65,000 in Des Moines, Iowa could decrease to $57,442 in Storm Lake, Iowa
Stated another way, it's 11.6% cheaper to live in Storm Lake, Iowa than Des Moines, Iowa"

Indianola wasn't one of the towns you could use, so I just substituted Des Moines because it was the closest I saw on the list.

[DutchFan2004]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

Well money is a large issue.  If the article has any weight why to go Coe for $65k when you can go to BSC for $150k?

only reason i can think of is if your an alum from a certain school, maybe you would want to finish your career where you started...

The alum thing has strong ties and is powerful indeed but the bottom line is you still have to earn a living and pay the bills.  If the salary won't provide a decent living I don't think you would take the job.  I think the salary issue is a big part of any job. 

[doolittledog]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

Well money is a large issue.  If the article has any weight why to go Coe for $65k when you can go to BSC for $150k?

only reason i can think of is if your an alum from a certain school, maybe you would want to finish your career where you started...

Marv Levy...or Freddie Jackson figures he's made enough in the NFL and coming back to coach...unlikely but there you go.  How about Staker???  Good HS coach...sent all his kids to Coe...both he and a son were on staff last year...would have loads of contacts in the Iowa HS coaching ranks...and so on and so on...

[DutchFan2004]

According to a cost-of-living calculator which can be found at http://www.bestplaces.net/col

"To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $65,000 in Des Moines, Iowa could decrease to $61,977 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa
tated another way, it's 4.7% cheaper to live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa than Des Moines, Iowa"

and

"To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $65,000 in Des Moines, Iowa could decrease to $57,442 in Storm Lake, Iowa
Stated another way, it's 11.6% cheaper to live in Storm Lake, Iowa than Des Moines, Iowa"

Indianola wasn't one of the towns you could use, so I just substituted Des Moines because it was the closest I saw on the list.

Pella has a higher rate than CR  $62,733 for Pella.