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. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

Does NCAA audit financial aid?

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. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

If true ... Wartburg Knights Spades

[The Show]

I've just recently heard something about those...

[DutchFan2004]

Congrats to Wartburg on the National Championship and the other IIAC schools on their places at the national tourney.  Great to see the IIAC doing well.  Also congrats to BV on the Sweet Sixteen placing.  Now go and get to the final four. 


Congrats to Drake on the MVC win.  Drake may be D1 but they are similar in size to the IIAC in many ways.  Fun to see a small school do well. 

[DutchFan2004]

. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

Does NCAA audit financial aid?

I am sure they do some auditing of this but I would bet that they don't do an exhaustive one.  If there is wrong doing it will come out some time.  I am not saying that there is but you do not cheat and stay on top.  I have no reason to think that they are violating any rules.  If this was the case why would they only do it in wrestling?  Many people think that because a team builds a program that they must be cheating or need to be broken up ie: U of I under Gable.  Other programs just have to get a commitment from their players and administrators to get to that level.  MUC was over come this year by UWW as an example.  Not to say that MUC won't be back but if other teams want to get the plaque then they have to bring their program up to that level. 

[Walston Hoover]

. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

Does NCAA audit financial aid?

There was recently a study done (not sure by who, but I assume NCAA) that looked at D3 schools and the amount of aid that student-athletes got in comparison with the general student population. If someone has a link, I would like to see that again, but IIRC, it was within like 2%.

[Wartburg Fan]

. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

If that the case about "Leadership Awards" to athletes that go to Wartburg where was my kids ?

[sportsknight]

. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

Jealousy is a stinky cologne.

[doolittledog]

This could turn into a good argument.  We're on page 899 now.  I wonder what page we will be on tomorrow at this time???

My guess is Wartburg has talented people that also work very hard along with a supportive administration that realises that athletic success can also lead to finantial health for the entire school.  And within the rules.  Perhaps a rule gets stretched here and there but I suspect that everything is within the letter of the law.  It's too easy to get caught cheating and that is definatly not a good thing in D3.  I don't see Wartburg letting that happen. 

[BeaverOfYore]

All I know of Wartburg's financial aid for athletes is from a high school classmate who played basketball there.  I remember him telling me that his original financial aid package to Wartburg wasn't where he needed it to be, so Coach Peth helped him get a few small supplemental scholarships to ease his financial burden.  I'm sure it wasn't anything illegal, and the same thing has probably happened at other schools in the conference.  I wish some of the faculty at BV would wake up and realize that about half the student body would be elsewhere if it weren't for athletics instead of doing everything in their power to push away the "dumb jocks."

[DutchFan2004]

. Congratulations to Wartburg on yet another national title. The Kohawks are gaining on you though -- fourth place overall and the first national wrestling champion in school history!

Luther has thought that for years. It just ain't happening.

Walston...you are right.  Coe and Luther and the other IIAC contenders will not measure up to the Warts as long as they give "Leadership Awards" to athletes as a coverup to athletic scholarships.
Let's at least get honest.  Time to "call a spade a spade".

If that the case about "Leadership Awards" to athletes that go to Wartburg where was my kids ?

Maybe they were considered not to be leaders 

[DutchFan2004]

All I know of Wartburg's financial aid for athletes is from a high school classmate who played basketball there.  I remember him telling me that his original financial aid package to Wartburg wasn't where he needed it to be, so Coach Peth helped him get a few small supplemental scholarships to ease his financial burden.  I'm sure it wasn't anything illegal, and the same thing has probably happened at other schools in the conference.  I wish some of the faculty at BV would wake up and realize that about half the student body would be elsewhere if it weren't for athletics instead of doing everything in their power to push away the "dumb jocks."

That is a good point.  If memory serves me I think both Central and Wartburg when my son was recruited stated that some where in the neighborhood of each school was that there was like 60% of the kids participating in sports and then like 75% in extra activities such as band and choir.  So if those two schools have that high of percentage of participation from student athletes that may explain their success on the field. 

[DutchFan2004]

Happy 900

[DBQ1965]

Any theories on how IIAC wrestlers would do in the national tourney if they didnt' have to eliminate each other at the Conference tourney?

[Klopenhiemer]

All I know of Wartburg's financial aid for athletes is from a high school classmate who played basketball there.  I remember him telling me that his original financial aid package to Wartburg wasn't where he needed it to be, so Coach Peth helped him get a few small supplemental scholarships to ease his financial burden.  I'm sure it wasn't anything illegal, and the same thing has probably happened at other schools in the conference.  I wish some of the faculty at BV would wake up and realize that about half the student body would be elsewhere if it weren't for athletics instead of doing everything in their power to push away the "dumb jocks."

That would get in the way of the facultys plan to "diversify" the campus.  Its a corn field in NW IA, your pushing a rope up hill trying to "diversify" it. 

This is the same faculty that let some moron publish "100 Years of Meatheads"  when BV was celebrating 100 years of football.