FB: American Rivers Conference

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 03:59:45 PM

M&G
Maybe you personally have not made the statement, but other Cobbers have brought up the fact that playing Occidental, a sunny California team, in the Fargo dome lessened the home field advantage. Go look up the posts from earlier in the season on the MIAC board and the West Playoff Bracket board, or are you calling me a liar.

Maroon&Gold · November 22, 2005, 04:11:03 PM

I dont know what others have said. As I recall, the point about the Oxy game was that it would have been nice to play at our Home field. Would that have affected that game and its results? Maybe, who knows. I don't care, I just feel that it did affect our home field advantage because its not our home field.

This has nothing to do with field conditions, but with the comfort level that comes with routine and familiarity. I do not care how close the alternate home site is, what the field is like, if it is climate controlled, or anythingelse. If it is not the team's home field, there is an element of home field advantage that is lost, and that is my point. If someone else has stated something else, as you are alluding to, then they are mistaken and wrong.

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 04:12:20 PM

Quote from: LacesOutDan on November 13, 2005, 12:03:13 am
[2. Don't kid yourself.....Concordia was partially jipped by playing indoors. I don't care whether it's -32 or 45 degrees playing outdoor in Minnesota vs a California opponent is a homefield advantage .

I did the work for you Maroon & Gold. You'll notice Laces out Dan quit arguing when he knew he was beat in this debate. Now you can go back to the MIAC board. Let's just hope we meet on the playing field again soon.

Maroon&Gold · November 22, 2005, 04:15:43 PM

Believe me, I would love to meet up with Coe in the postseason again.

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 04:16:57 PM

Fair enough.

Maroon&Gold · November 22, 2005, 04:36:06 PM

2. Don't kid yourself.....Concordia was partially jipped by playing indoors. I don't care whether it's -32 or 45 degrees playing outdoor in Minnesota vs a California opponent is a homefield advantage ** that they were not allowed in a season that they earned it. If you play a game on a field once a year it's not a home field. It's NDSU homefield. They practice their regularly and they play Conference rivalries there. Concordia doesn't.......Concordia homefield is the Jake.**

CooCoo--the ** shows the portion of the portion of the quote that you convienantly left off. I think that this pretty well shows what he means by Homefield advantage. Playing at your home field.

Anyway, I think I will quit now. Thank you though for making the second half of my day go much faster.

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 04:43:55 PM

Anytime!

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 04:52:34 PM

Congratulations,

Ross Dillavou, Loras

and 2005 Gagliardi Trophy Finalists

Dusty Kain, Simpson

Confused77 · November 22, 2005, 05:34:28 PM

I had the honor to coach Ross Dillavou for his first 2 years at Loras. I can honestly say there are not many more deserving people then him for such an honor.

Confused77 · November 22, 2005, 05:43:22 PM

I will chime in on the playing surface. I don't believe the outcome would have been much different in a dome.. When a team has the rock for 40minutes they most likely will win.

While home field advantage is a huge subject, I don't feel any team should EVER have to play on a field like that Home or away...Just not conducive to a enjoyable game to watch. And I do feel sorry for the Coe equipment people having to wash those white jerseys.

coocooforcoekohawk · November 22, 2005, 05:48:24 PM

Quote from: Confused77 on November 22, 2005, 05:43:22 PM
And I do feel sorry for the Coe equipment people having to wash those white jerseys.

No kidding,

Dougy is the backbone of the Coe College athletic department. Chandler is the Heart, but Doug Peters does more for all the athletic Kohawks than anyone at that school besides John. I am honored to share my birhtday with him.

Three cheers and a Prarie Fire for Dougy!

warthog · November 22, 2005, 06:45:14 PM

Indoors-Outdoors?

Fake Grass-Real Grass?

Torn Up Field-Field Of Dreams?

It doesn't make any difference folks. The fact is the IIAC wasn't all that good this year. We didn't have a dominant team. Our teams were going to lose early in the tournament regardless where the games were played.

I hate to say this since my favorite team was even less talented than the two teams that represented us. Some years are just like that. Maybe some team will get it together and be a real butt kicker next year. The off season could be a critical time for that dominant team to develop. We'll find out which players and which coaching staffs have that fire in the belly to become the next real king of the hill.

Which team will it be?

dutchfan1 · November 22, 2005, 06:59:54 PM

Warthog -- Central.

Congrats to both Dusty Kain and Ross Dillavou -- being nominated and selected as a finalist for the Gagliardi trophy is quite an honor! I'm quite impressed that we have two people representing the IIAC in the finalist pool. What an outstanding way to represent the first-class student/athletes we have in our conference. Best of luck to both finalists.

coocooforcoekohawk · November 23, 2005, 12:05:22 AM

Quote from: warthog on November 22, 2005, 06:45:14 PM
We'll find out which players and which coaching staffs have that fire in the belly to become the next real king of the hill.

Which team will it be?

I think I know who it will be.

COO COO FOR COE KOHAWKS!!!!!!!!

SOLID · November 23, 2005, 12:51:42 AM

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on November 22, 2005, 04:12:20 PM
Quote from: LacesOutDan on November 13, 2005, 12:03:13 am
[2. Don't kid yourself.....Concordia was partially jipped by playing indoors. I don't care whether it's -32 or 45 degrees playing outdoor in Minnesota vs a California opponent is a homefield advantage .

I did the work for you Maroon & Gold. You'll notice Laces out Dan quit arguing when he knew he was beat in this debate. Now you can go back to the MIAC board. Let's just hope we meet on the playing field again soon.

Time for me to say my peace!!

Quit.......sorry, I went bball practice. To do my job. M&G and I are arguing the same points, on the side of the same argument...........and as you'll notice with only one person. The subject that you neglected to let sink in was simply homefield. Now someone may have the opinion that homefield doesn't mean much. To me as a coach of three sports, routine and familiarity are an important issue. Otherwise why would high seeds get that benefit. That's all I'm saying. I will never say that the Cobbs beat OXY last year if the game is outdoor. (However as we saw on Saturday, It at times can change the way a game is called or played...ex mud, wind etc..) I don't know that they would or wouldn't have. Just like Coe fans can't say that if it was sunny and 85 and on turf they would have won, we don't know. The whole point was that as a higher seed Concordia was, in theory, supposed to have homefield advantage. For whatever reason the NC$$ moved the game indoors, to an atmosphere less homefield of an almost D1 school (another topic for another board). The game wasn't at the Jake therefore they lost most of the homefield advantages or better said familiarities that you are to be awarded when you are the home team! Obviously they didn't give up all of the possible advantages.......they slept in their own beds (I assume

) they ate dinner on Campus but not all the HOMEfield familiarites were normal and routine. That's all, plain and simple.........enough said.

Great Bantering with you and hear's to another Cobber-Kohawk playoff game in future. For the sake of us fans, hopefully warmer than last Saturday! $:-\$