FB: American Rivers Conference

[Klopenhiemer]

So what does this economy situation do to private colleges as they attempt to recruit students at $30,000 a pop?

Great question. I guess I'll be keeping my college job (unless those same officials show up on campus again).

Private colleges are going to face a very challenging year.  Increasingly high school counselors and financial planners are telling students and parents to get the first two years at a community college.  Private colleges have done well to maintain enrollments against that environment, add the pressures of this economy and we could see financial struggles hit our alma maters like never before as more and more families will see that as the only choice and not even give our schools a fair chance to compete.  The regents will also likely see a bump from this.  Of course the flip side is that in a down economy more students opt for college when the job market is tight. 

What kind of job can one expect without a college degree?  They could go to a technical school and learn a technical trade.  They could join a union such as the carpenters, plumbers, iron workers, ect and go through their apprentiship program.  They could go to some other type of scpecialized school that might deal with fire, automotives, or anything else that does not need a tradional 4 year degree.  All of these still require some type of financing other than the Union Apprentiships.  Those guys have to buy tools so that is their cost of tuition.  With the lending markets being tight right now its going to be especially tough on everyone.  If a student does not go to college of tech school they can plan on saying would you like fries with that or paper or plastic sir for the rest of their lives. 

That's not necessarily true. Quite a few former co-workers at Wells Fargo had pretty cushy jobs and no degree. (For a while, I had higher educational attainment than all of my supervisors and managers....which is a little sad, by the way.) Several people are going to school now because their employers will pay for it through an educational reimbursement program of some sort. In exchange for a "true college experience" these guys trade for zero debt upon graduation.

Sure I know these people as well.  My wifes cousin was the employee of the year for a large insurance company in 2007.  The kid did not have a college degree.  Only finished two semesters at Drake before quiting and moving out west.  He makes 40K a year and barely keeps his head above water.  Everyone in the company loves him.  They told him he had a degree, he would make double that.  You can get a job with out a degree, but unless you fall under some lucky or extreem circumstances you are not going to get paid.  I do not know about the rest of you, but I work to hard not to get paid!

[Purple Heys]

I know this is a football board, but I bet me and Heys are the only one's saying, "How 'bout the Dodgers?!" 

Once they got Man Ram, I told my friends the Boys in Blue were going to win the West.  (no much of a stretch)

I grew up with Vin and Jerry and Ross.  I met Tommy Lasorda when I was in college.

Since Fox bought the Dodgers it hasn't been the same.

Too bad it's at the expense of the Cubbies.   

[Purple Heys]

Boy, I can't stand Youkilis   

[Purple Heys]

The other thing we used to enjoy was going to the Big A and watch Reggie Jackson play for the CALIFORNIA Angels.

Back in the Singing Cowboy days...

Good times.

[Purple Heys]

I used to love going to Dodger games at Chavez Ravine, then after the game go to the Original Tommy's on Rampart and Beverly in one of the nastier parts of LA

http://www.originaltommys.com/story.php

If you don't see the Shack, take it back.

http://www.originaltommys.com/burger.php

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[Charlie Kohawk]

The other thing we used to enjoy was going to the Big A and watch Reggie Jackson play for the CALIFORNIA Angels.

Back in the Singing Cowboy days...

Good times.

not even the same county

[Fannosaurus Rex]

The problem with growing up with Vin and Jerry (I don't know Ross), is that it spoils you and makes it hard to listen to anyone else.  I saw the Angels play once in Wrigley Field, in Los Angeles.

[DBQ1965]

I know this is a football board, but I bet me and Heys are the only one's saying, "How 'bout the Dodgers?!" 

Having grown up as a Giants fan ... I don't care about the damn Dodgers!

GO CUBS!

[DutchFan2004]

So what does this economy situation do to private colleges as they attempt to recruit students at $30,000 a pop?

Great question. I guess I'll be keeping my college job (unless those same officials show up on campus again).

Private colleges are going to face a very challenging year.  Increasingly high school counselors and financial planners are telling students and parents to get the first two years at a community college.  Private colleges have done well to maintain enrollments against that environment, add the pressures of this economy and we could see financial struggles hit our alma maters like never before as more and more families will see that as the only choice and not even give our schools a fair chance to compete.  The regents will also likely see a bump from this.  Of course the flip side is that in a down economy more students opt for college when the job market is tight. 

What kind of job can one expect without a college degree?  They could go to a technical school and learn a technical trade.  They could join a union such as the carpenters, plumbers, iron workers, ect and go through their apprentiship program.  They could go to some other type of scpecialized school that might deal with fire, automotives, or anything else that does not need a tradional 4 year degree.  All of these still require some type of financing other than the Union Apprentiships.  Those guys have to buy tools so that is their cost of tuition.  With the lending markets being tight right now its going to be especially tough on everyone.  If a student does not go to college of tech school they can plan on saying would you like fries with that or paper or plastic sir for the rest of their lives. 

That's not necessarily true. Quite a few former co-workers at Wells Fargo had pretty cushy jobs and no degree. (For a while, I had higher educational attainment than all of my supervisors and managers....which is a little sad, by the way.) Several people are going to school now because their employers will pay for it through an educational reimbursement program of some sort. In exchange for a "true college experience" these guys trade for zero debt upon graduation.

Sure I know these people as well.  My wifes cousin was the employee of the year for a large insurance company in 2007.  The kid did not have a college degree.  Only finished two semesters at Drake before quiting and moving out west.  He makes 40K a year and barely keeps his head above water.  Everyone in the company loves him.  They told him he had a degree, he would make double that.  You can get a job with out a degree, but unless you fall under some lucky or extreem circumstances you are not going to get paid.  I do not know about the rest of you, but I work to hard not to get paid!

That is discrimination.  If the kid can do the job without one he should get the job and they should pay him for the job he does. 

[Purple Heys]

The other thing we used to enjoy was going to the Big A and watch Reggie Jackson play for the CALIFORNIA Angels.

Back in the Singing Cowboy days...

Good times.

not even the same county

I know...The Angels (Orange County) were actually closer to where I lived (Redlands, San Bernardino County), than the Dodgers (L.A. County).  I originally worked in Santa Ana for my first job out of college, and drove right by the Big A to go home.

Fun to have a choice though...

[Purple Heys]

The problem with growing up with Vin and Jerry (I don't know Ross), is that it spoils you and makes it hard to listen to anyone else.  I saw the Angels play once in Wrigley Field, in Los Angeles.

Ross = Ross Porter  The master of the obscure stat.

He came aboard as Jerry Doggett started aging and confusing names such as mixing up Orel Hershisher and Steve Sax...calling him Orel Sax   

[Kohawk Remedy]

That is discrimination.  If the kid can do the job without one he should get the job and they should pay him for the job he does. 

I believe now a days they have business/job requirements in job descriptions that either say you need a degree or a certain amount of experience to fullfill the job.  Other wise it could be considered descrimination if there isn't anything in the job requirements

[sc_stormchaser]

So what does this economy situation do to private colleges as they attempt to recruit students at $30,000 a pop?

Great question. I guess I'll be keeping my college job (unless those same officials show up on campus again).

Private colleges are going to face a very challenging year.  Increasingly high school counselors and financial planners are telling students and parents to get the first two years at a community college.  Private colleges have done well to maintain enrollments against that environment, add the pressures of this economy and we could see financial struggles hit our alma maters like never before as more and more families will see that as the only choice and not even give our schools a fair chance to compete.  The regents will also likely see a bump from this.  Of course the flip side is that in a down economy more students opt for college when the job market is tight. 

What kind of job can one expect without a college degree?  They could go to a technical school and learn a technical trade.  They could join a union such as the carpenters, plumbers, iron workers, ect and go through their apprentiship program.  They could go to some other type of scpecialized school that might deal with fire, automotives, or anything else that does not need a tradional 4 year degree.  All of these still require some type of financing other than the Union Apprentiships.  Those guys have to buy tools so that is their cost of tuition.  With the lending markets being tight right now its going to be especially tough on everyone.  If a student does not go to college of tech school they can plan on saying would you like fries with that or paper or plastic sir for the rest of their lives. 

That's not necessarily true. Quite a few former co-workers at Wells Fargo had pretty cushy jobs and no degree. (For a while, I had higher educational attainment than all of my supervisors and managers....which is a little sad, by the way.) Several people are going to school now because their employers will pay for it through an educational reimbursement program of some sort. In exchange for a "true college experience" these guys trade for zero debt upon graduation.

Sure I know these people as well.  My wifes cousin was the employee of the year for a large insurance company in 2007.  The kid did not have a college degree.  Only finished two semesters at Drake before quiting and moving out west.  He makes 40K a year and barely keeps his head above water.  Everyone in the company loves him.  They told him he had a degree, he would make double that.  You can get a job with out a degree, but unless you fall under some lucky or extreem circumstances you are not going to get paid.  I do not know about the rest of you, but I work to hard not to get paid!

That is discrimination.  If the kid can do the job without one he should get the job and they should pay him for the job he does. 

You don't have to look any further than a teacher in Iowa. Two teacher with the same job - one with a master's degree, one without. Over the course of time, the one with a master's degree will make more than the one without. It doesn't make the teacher without a master's degree any less of a teacher. In fact, they might be better, but that's just how it works.

Sorry, I don't feel bad for the guy. If I was told that I would be making double what I am now if I went out and got additional education, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Klopenhiemer]

So what does this economy situation do to private colleges as they attempt to recruit students at $30,000 a pop?

Great question. I guess I'll be keeping my college job (unless those same officials show up on campus again).

Private colleges are going to face a very challenging year.  Increasingly high school counselors and financial planners are telling students and parents to get the first two years at a community college.  Private colleges have done well to maintain enrollments against that environment, add the pressures of this economy and we could see financial struggles hit our alma maters like never before as more and more families will see that as the only choice and not even give our schools a fair chance to compete.  The regents will also likely see a bump from this.  Of course the flip side is that in a down economy more students opt for college when the job market is tight. 

What kind of job can one expect without a college degree?  They could go to a technical school and learn a technical trade.  They could join a union such as the carpenters, plumbers, iron workers, ect and go through their apprentiship program.  They could go to some other type of scpecialized school that might deal with fire, automotives, or anything else that does not need a tradional 4 year degree.  All of these still require some type of financing other than the Union Apprentiships.  Those guys have to buy tools so that is their cost of tuition.  With the lending markets being tight right now its going to be especially tough on everyone.  If a student does not go to college of tech school they can plan on saying would you like fries with that or paper or plastic sir for the rest of their lives. 

That's not necessarily true. Quite a few former co-workers at Wells Fargo had pretty cushy jobs and no degree. (For a while, I had higher educational attainment than all of my supervisors and managers....which is a little sad, by the way.) Several people are going to school now because their employers will pay for it through an educational reimbursement program of some sort. In exchange for a "true college experience" these guys trade for zero debt upon graduation.

Sure I know these people as well.  My wifes cousin was the employee of the year for a large insurance company in 2007.  The kid did not have a college degree.  Only finished two semesters at Drake before quiting and moving out west.  He makes 40K a year and barely keeps his head above water.  Everyone in the company loves him.  They told him he had a degree, he would make double that.  You can get a job with out a degree, but unless you fall under some lucky or extreem circumstances you are not going to get paid.  I do not know about the rest of you, but I work to hard not to get paid!

That is discrimination.  If the kid can do the job without one he should get the job and they should pay him for the job he does. 

Its not discrimination when the first qualification for the job is that you posses a 4 year college degree. 

[Klopenhiemer]

Let talk football people! 

After two weeks of the season a few things seem to be appearant. 

Central and Wartburg are still at the top, but might not be as invincible as in years past. 

Coe is seems to be in a funk with the schedule that they have played, but can they rebound?

Loras and BV have gotten a couple of wins.  BV seems to be playing well right now and has a huge showdown in Storm Lake this weekend with the Knights. 

Simpson...Does anyone think they can play spoiler and pull out a few wins over the top half, or is Coach Glo's first year full of growing pains. 

What is everyone else thinking?