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Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on September 09, 2006, 10:17:33 PM
Maybe they feel that if they do join the IIAC they can recruit Iowa kids better.

I don't think Grinnell has much interest in recruiting Iowa kids. I don't see them joining the IIAC.
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

Ash Park

Charlie I agree lets not get ahead of ourselves, but if you are close to this program it is very evident that a lot has changed. Just because the Rams are 2-0 is no reason to get excited. I don't care what our record has been, if we want to be a solid football team then being satisfied with two wins won't cut it and Dillon and the rest of the ram football team knows this. They will take it one game at a time. People are excited at Cornell not just because of the 2-0 start and the thrilling win against Alma, but because of all the attitude change that has happened. Like I have said before there is just a lot more sense of Ram Pride at Cornell than has been there for too long.

Congrats to all the other IIAC teams that won this weekend.  Can anyone from Luther tell me what happened saturday? Was St. Olaf just that much better or what?

Lance Harbor

Dutchfan2004 -- Playing Non-region teams doesn't affect your Strength of Schedule rating at all.  Long story short, the IIAC's three wins over Michigan Conference teams won't help (or hurt) anyone's playoff chances.  And that's bad news for all IIAC teams.  I think the in-region Strength of Schedule rule has got to go.

IA Conference Fan -- Grinnell would be natural fit geographically, but not so much otherwise.  I would say they're definitely at a higher level than the rest of the IIAC in terms of academics.  Although, they could make it work.  Coe and Cornell both made the MWC-to-IIAC switch a few years back and have done fairly well meshing into the system.

DutchFan2004

Lance Harbor,

I don't think that Grinnell is ahead of the IIAC in any way.  Academically especially.  Wartburg has a great Science Deptartment.  They may be equal to the IIAC in academics but ahead of them I don't see it.  Maybe more liberal than any school in Iowa (at any level) I will grant that point. 
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DutchFan2004

The IIAC helped the MIAA go without a with over the weekend.  I wonder how many times that happens when there are at least 3 games are played and a conference loses them all.
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coocooforcoekohawk

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on September 10, 2006, 06:39:10 PM
Lance Harbor,

I don't think that Grinnell is ahead of the IIAC in any way.  Academically especially.  Wartburg has a great Science Deptartment.  They may be equal to the IIAC in academics but ahead of them I don't see it.  Maybe more liberal than any school in Iowa (at any level) I will grant that point. 

dutchfan2004 I have a lot of respect for you and what you post, but I think you missed the boat on this one.  Grinnell, with one of the largest endowments in the country, is academically head and shoulders above most colleges let alone the IIAC. 
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Walston Hoover

I believe Grinnell is the Harvard of the Midwest with an incoming freshman average ACT score of 30 or even higher I believe. Very selective school and definitely ahead of the rest of Iowa and most of the country. No doubt very liberal, but you'll find that at most institutions of "higher" learning.
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

Ash Park

I believe Cornell is right up there with them or pretty close as far as academics go

coocooforcoekohawk

Quote from: Ash Park on September 10, 2006, 08:40:08 PM
I believe Cornell is right up there with them or pretty close as far as academics go

Evelyn Wood College or Cornell as you call it can not be compared when every course is condensed into one month.  Cornell does attract some of the best speed readers. You are still doing one course at a time, yes. :-*
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Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on September 10, 2006, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: Ash Park on September 10, 2006, 08:40:08 PM
I believe Cornell is right up there with them or pretty close as far as academics go

Evelyn Wood College or Cornell as you call it can not be compared when every course is condensed into one month.  Cornell does attract some of the best speed readers. You are still doing one course at a time, yes. :-*

Good one coocoo. This may be your best post ever.  ;D
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

Ash Park

I figured I would get a response along those lines from a Coe person.   :)

dbljay21

Sounds like there were some good games again this weekend.  Congrats to the Cornell Rams on the 2-0 start, and to the IIAC for representing the conference very well during the first two weeks. 

Judging by the halftime score and the final score it looks like St. Olaf dominated the Norse in the second half...anyone have any info on the game???  I was in Detroit for the NFL Kickoff Weekend and wasn't able to keep up with the D-III action.

And now the fun begins...conference games ;D
Go Norse!!!

WAHOO3

Just some info on the Luther/Olaf game - I was only able to listen to it on the radio..

Luther's no hudle offense gave the Oles some fits early on and they were able to move the ball by completing some passes and they put a couple score up on the board. By the second quarter the Oles were breaking up passes and making plays on d, and after that Luther wasn't able to move the ball too much.
It sounded like the Oles were a little out of sync early and started to put it together in the second quarter on offense as well.
I can never pick up too much detail by listening on the radio, thats all I got.
Overall, it sounded like Luther has some good wideouts and has the ability to throw the ball around the field.

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Hawk Sighting

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on September 10, 2006, 06:39:10 PM
Lance Harbor,

I don't think that Grinnell is ahead of the IIAC in any way.  Academically especially.  Wartburg has a great Science Deptartment.  They may be equal to the IIAC in academics but ahead of them I don't see it.  Maybe more liberal than any school in Iowa (at any level) I will grant that point. 


I was going to stay out of this discussion until I read this.  By far Grinnell is ahead of the IIAC schools academically.  But the two schools' that are right after Grinnell would be Coe and Luther.  Great new buildings do not mean a great academic program.  The top IIAC science programs are;   Coe and Cornell.....   Grinnell, Coe, Luther, and Cornell are the only 4 schools nationally ranked; all the others are regionally ranked.   The IIAC is a great conference, but I think this forum should be used for what the majority on here know something about, football.  Congrats to all on sat.   

Floyd in Iowa City

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Quote from: WAHOO3 on September 11, 2006, 09:08:12 AM
Just some info on the Luther/Olaf game - I was only able to listen to it on the radio..

Luther's no hudle offense gave the Oles some fits early on and they were able to move the ball by completing some passes and they put a couple score up on the board. By the second quarter the Oles were breaking up passes and making plays on d, and after that Luther wasn't able to move the ball too much.
It sounded like the Oles were a little out of sync early and started to put it together in the second quarter on offense as well.
I can never pick up too much detail by listening on the radio, thats all I got.
Overall, it sounded like Luther has some good wideouts and has the ability to throw the ball around the field.



Much like last year, both Luther and St. Olaf moved the ball at will much of the contest.  The Oles finished drives while making fewer mistakes, and that was the difference in the game.  Luther had the ball inside the Ole 20 on SEVEN occasions, yet the Norse were only able to score 16 points.  Twice Luther was picked off inside the 15, three times they kicked field goals, and once they turned it over on downs.  The Luther OL is maybe performing at an average or slightly above average level right now, and that hurts down in the red zone.

St. Olaf and Luther both showed great offense for most of the game and both teams have great groups of WRs.  I would give Luther the advantage at QB, but St. Olaf has the advantage at OL.  The refs really hurt Luther on three huge calls, but ultimately Luther lost the game in the 2nd half because the defense couldn't get stops to overcome Norse mistakes and those calls.

Sweers threw two interceptions, with one being late in the game that put the game out of reach, but overall he played pretty well as a passer and a runner.  He put up very good numbers and looked pretty good.  Lamos had a couple runs that were fun to watch and it would be nice to see him get at least 20 carries a game rather than the 27 that he has had in his six quarters so far this year (12 in the 1st half against Martin Luther, 15 against the Oles).  Pearson had an outstanding game with 14 catches for 160 yards, and two of those bad ref calls cost him a TD and a long catch just before the half.

I don't know if I can say if Luther is better or worse than last year on defense as they may have played the worst offense on the schedule in Martin Luther and the best offense on the schedule on St. Olaf.  The defensive sets and coverages were geared towards helping to stop the Ole WRs, but I don't think Luther has to play a group like that once they get into conference games.  Much like last year's game against St. Olaf, it was a disappointing and failing day for the Norse Defense.
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