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d-train

Quote from: hazzben on October 28, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Wild Card: We're assuming the Committee isn't going to send someone from the North into the West.  Last year they gave us Aurora in exchange for sending UWW North.  On paper, the West looks awfully full already, but their is precedent for the Committee to send a weaker North team West.  If this happens, all bets are off.  IIAC would still probably get two, and MIAC if UST wins @ Bethel.  If Bethel wins and a team gets shipped from the North, no way MIAC, SCIAC, NWC or MWC get 2 teams in.

Actually, UWW stayed West last year.  They were a Pool C team and flew to Oregon for round 2.  I think there were only 7 West teams teams in the field (no one was moved out or exchanged - rather Aurora simply moved in to play at Monmouth). 

D O.C.

Quote3- Right now, if they got 2 teams and the NWC got 1 (see above), the Committee would have to fly someone out

to calm down the NWC conference before they seceded.

coocooforcoekohawk

Just remember that all this talk about Coe in the playoffs has not been generated by the Coe faithful.  We have a tough match-up against B.V. and you never know when Cornell comes to Coe.

And you never know about Loras, they sometimes beat you even after the game is over.
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warthog

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
Just remember that all this talk about Coe in the playoffs has not been generated by the Coe faithful.  We have a tough match-up against B.V. and you never know when Cornell comes to Coe.

And you never know about Loras, they sometimes beat you even after the game is over.

With the exception of Simpson in 2003 and Central in 1999 the IIAC only gets two in the dance when there is a tie for the championship and even that doesn't always happen.
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Fannosaurus Rex

Just to show you how insidious all of this play-off talk can be, I haven't seen one beaver double entendre in the week BV comes to Central.  Or it could just be everyone has matured more than I have.
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DutchHawk

Quote from: warthog on October 28, 2009, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
Just remember that all this talk about Coe in the playoffs has not been generated by the Coe faithful.  We have a tough match-up against B.V. and you never know when Cornell comes to Coe.

And you never know about Loras, they sometimes beat you even after the game is over.

With the exception of Simpson in 2003 and Central in 1999 the IIAC only gets two in the dance when there is a tie for the championship and even that doesn't always happen.

It depends greatly on how the other regional conferences perform as well more than just when the title is shared.
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DutchFan2004

Quote from: warthog on October 28, 2009, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
Just remember that all this talk about Coe in the playoffs has not been generated by the Coe faithful.  We have a tough match-up against B.V. and you never know when Cornell comes to Coe.

And you never know about Loras, they sometimes beat you even after the game is over.

With the exception of Simpson in 2003 and Central in 1999 the IIAC only gets two in the dance when there is a tie for the championship and even that doesn't always happen.

The results you speak of never had runners up with 2 losses in the playoffs.  If the runner up or coconference champs have two losses they won't get a second team in.  There are to many good one loss teams out there for two loss teams to get in. 
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DutchFan2004

Quote from: the_mayne_event on October 28, 2009, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: doolittledog on October 28, 2009, 12:25:38 AM
Maybe the NCAA selection committee will read the SCIAC board on this site and their complaints that they never get to host playoff games and they will set it up for Central or Coe will head out to sunny SoCal this year to make it up to them ;)

I'm guessing no, since I read earlier that the NCAA won't fly for a 1st round game (must be under 500 miles).



The West region always gets a flight first round.  Usually its the SCIAC vs the NWC due to the proximity of those two conferences. 
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DutchHawk

West Regional rankings have Linfield at 1, Central 2, SJU 3, UWW 4, Monmouth 5, St Thomas 6, Coe 7, and Oxy 8.

UWW is a surprise...
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coocooforcoekohawk

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West Region
1. Linfield 6-0 7-0
2. Central 8-0 8-0
3. St. John's 8-0 8-0
4. UW-Whitewater 5-0 7-0
5. Monmouth 8-0 8-0
6. St. Thomas 6-1 6-1
7. Coe 6-1 6-1
8. Occidental 5-1 5-1
9. Cal Lutheran 5-1 5-1
10. UW-Stevens Point 4-1 5-2

Given these rankings and the fact that either Cal Lutheran or Occidental have to make the playoffs with their AQ, I see the NCAA not including Coe and shipping in a North region team to the west giving the west only seven playoff teams.  Hopefully St. Thomas loses to Bethel and that is the only way I see Coe making the playoffs.

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d-train

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 04:24:12 PM
Given these rankings and the fact that either Cal Lutheran or Occidental have to make the playoffs with their AQ, I see the NCAA not including Coe and shipping in a North region team to the west giving the west only seven playoff teams.  Hopefully St. Thomas loses to Bethel and that is the only way I see Coe making the playoffs.

Really? I think Coe's chances look pretty good based on the list. Redlands doesn't appear, St. Norbert doesn't appear, Willamette doesn't appear.  The real test is Pool C nationwide though...

doolittledog

What teams made the playoffs in 2006?  Because I thought I remembered hearing on here that even if Wartburg had beat Dubuque the last weekend of the season and ended 9-1...with their only loss being in OT @ 10-0 Central that the Knights still wouldn't have made the post season. 

Which is similar to this year, with the exception that Central handled Coe a lot easier this year than Wartburg in 2006.  I just wonder if this year has a lot more 2 loss teams out there that 2006 didn't have. 

coocooforcoekohawk

I believe the North has seven AQ's.  With the OAC, CCIW, and NCAC all being in the north you can expect the North teams to get as many as ten teams in the playoffs.  So even if they ship Mount Union to the East they still will ship someone to the West.  I expect the winner of the Concordias to be shipped to the West leaving the MIAC or IIAC runner-up being the only pool C bid in the West.
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dutchfan1

Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 04:24:12 PM
West Region
1. Linfield 6-0 7-0
2. Central 8-0 8-0
3. St. John's 8-0 8-0
4. UW-Whitewater 5-0 7-0
5. Monmouth 8-0 8-0
6. St. Thomas 6-1 6-1
7. Coe 6-1 6-1
8. Occidental 5-1 5-1
9. Cal Lutheran 5-1 5-1
10. UW-Stevens Point 4-1 5-2

Given these rankings and the fact that either Cal Lutheran or Occidental have to make the playoffs with their AQ, I see the NCAA not including Coe and shipping in a North region team to the west giving the west only seven playoff teams.  Hopefully St. Thomas loses to Bethel and that is the only way I see Coe making the playoffs.



It's interesting that UWW isn't first in the rankings... but it's nice to see Linfield and Central ahead of SJU.
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hazzben

Quote from: d-train on October 28, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2009, 04:24:12 PM
Given these rankings and the fact that either Cal Lutheran or Occidental have to make the playoffs with their AQ, I see the NCAA not including Coe and shipping in a North region team to the west giving the west only seven playoff teams.  Hopefully St. Thomas loses to Bethel and that is the only way I see Coe making the playoffs.

Really? I think Coe's chances look pretty good based on the list. Redlands doesn't appear, St. Norbert doesn't appear, Willamette doesn't appear.  The real test is Pool C nationwide though...

Agreed, I think Coe is in good shape, provided they win out.  I think there is still possibility for a West team North.  MUC is probably East, IMHO, given how weak the East is.  That, and #2-#5 from the West could easily be sent to the North region as far as travel criteria goes.

Would anyone be surprised if UWW wins in convincing fashion this weekend seeing them jump a few teams in these rankings?  Especially given who SJU and Linfield finish with.