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[MWCfan787]

Good Luck to Wartburg and Buena Vista this week

sincerely from the MWC

Life can't be any fun when you always have to hope for others to lose.  

I don't know if it will be a close game or a blowout, don't care, as long as the Dutch take care of business and get the W.

Not rooting against, rooting for.....I really respect the Wburg and BV programs

[Old Dutch]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

[DutchHawk]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

I could see a co-COY award this year...perhaps?

Have to agree that Zachary is POY going by the stats and statements youve made.

[dutchfan1]

Good Luck to Wartburg and Buena Vista this week

sincerely from the MWC

The MWC is already scared of a post-season Central match-up? Really, we won't beat up on you...that bad....

[scots fan]

 I doubt monmouth is scared of anybody in the IAC . I believe it should be the other way around i think it would be a terrific matchup central.s defense against monmouth offense . All i know after watching all the monmouth games this year is central,s d better be as good as advertised because monmouths offense is as good as as good as advertised. oh by the way their defense isnt to shabby either.

[DutchHawk]

I doubt monmouth is scared of anybody in the IAC . I believe it should be the other way around i think it would be a terrific matchup central.s defense against monmouth offense . All i know after watching all the monmouth games this year is central,s d better be as good as advertised because monmouths offense is as good as as good as advertised. oh by the way their defense isnt to shabby either.

So...not sure what to make of your post. If we are as good as advertised we better be ready, and Monmouths offense is as good as advertised...yet Ive missed all of the commercials. Bummer.

Central and Monmouth do share one common opponent - Loras
Monmouth 39 Loras 20
Central 41 Loras 17

Whats that tell us, well we won by more points, and we played at Loras, while Monmouth was at home. So Central is obviously better? Not gonna say that. Im just trying to make some connections with any sort of logic you used in your post but it is proving to be difficult.

Not sure what conference the IAC is, or who said Monmouth should be scared. DF1 was joking around with one of your fellow MWC posters who had said good luck to Wartburg (whos playing Central)

Ill give you the benefit of the doubt as you seem new here.

[scots fan]

the game against loras was first game of the year good teams get better throughout the year i believe monmouth is better than that first game of the year. this is basically the same team that lost to wartburg in the second round last year on the final play of the game. i am just saying monmouth would be very competive against anyone in the iac

[scots fan]

IIAC

[DutchHawk]

the game against loras was first game of the year good teams get better throughout the year i believe monmouth is better than that first game of the year. this is basically the same team that lost to wartburg in the second round last year on the final play of the game. i am just saying monmouth would be very competive against anyone in the iac

That was last year and you dont lose on the last play, its a whole game that counts. You cant compare last years results to anythign that has any bearing to this year. Central was 6-4. Im not saying Monmouth wouldnt be competitive in the IIAC, would they have the same year in year out success they have in the MWC...Im not so sure about that. Hopefully we can both meet in the playoffs in Pella and can show you the meaning of defense

[DutchHawk]

For what its worth:

Centrals JV wen 8-1, dropping their only decision to Augustana, then beating them later in the year. They beat Simpson twice and Wartburg once.

I like the sounds of that with the amount of Frosh we have playing Varsity

[scots fan]

dutchawk, true statement about last year records but 18 out of 19 starters back on a team that averaged 48 a game last year and 48 a game this year is a pretty consistent offense no matter who they play and lets see how central matches up against 4 and5 wides. That vaunted pass rush better be just that.

[AZDutchman]

Prediction....

Central Dutch  20
Wartburg         17


If the Dutch play not to lose, they will lose. If Wartburg takes chances in their plays (and are successful), they will win.
But, I don't believe either of these will happen. It will come down to the coaching and time management. The fourth quarter will be the quarter to watch.

Go Dutch!
Leave No Doubt!

[New Storm]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

I could see a co-COY award this year...perhaps?

Have to agree that Zachary is POY going by the stats and statements youve made.

I agree COY co-coaches and Zachery is the POY he has really been the key to Central and they are undeafeated

[Voice of the Dutch]

Here's another vote for David Zachary as POY.  His stats absolutely CRUSH any other RB in the IIAC, and he's done it in somewhat limited playing time.  Central has won every league game by double digits, and Central has used the running game to run out the clock in almost all of them.  However, Zachary has only been in the game in the fourth quarter in 4 of the 7 games, and in one of those (Luther), he played just a few minutes into the fourth.  In addition, he didn't play in the entire 2nd half against Cornell.

Zachary's stats stack up just fine as it is, but think of how much better they'd be if he got to play the full 60 minutes that most of the athletes in the IIAC have gotten to play this year.

[DutchHawk]

dutchawk, true statement about last year records but 18 out of 19 starters back on a team that averaged 48 a game last year and 48 a game this year is a pretty consistent offense no matter who they play and lets see how central matches up against 4 and5 wides. That vaunted pass rush better be just that.

I agree thats a good offense by the numbers, but you are quite wrong in the fact that it does matter who you play!!! You cant deny that fact, unless you are saying you will put up 48 pts on any team in the country based on the law of averages?

You act like we have never seen 4 and 5 wide offenses...have you ever watched Dubuque play? They put up ridiculous points and offensive numbers but still dont beat us.  (no offense DBQ backers )