FB: American Rivers Conference

[Fannosaurus Rex]

On top of worrying about the Central secondary and the flu, today I have decided to start worrying that Wartburg will clean it up and not get penalized for their nearly 70 yard per game average.  There are a couple of first downs there that Central should be able to count on, and I want them.

[warthog]

Thought for the day:

We compete, not so much against an opponent, but against ourselves. The real test is this: Did I make my best effort on every play?

- Bud Wilkinson

[SpeedKills84]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

I could see a co-COY award this year...perhaps?

Have to agree that Zachary is POY going by the stats and statements youve made.

I agree COY co-coaches and Zachery is the POY he has really been the key to Central and they are undeafeated

I agree, but my thing is what if Zachary wasn't on the team.  Central is very good team, and w/o Zachary it would appear Snead would be in a larger role running the ball and probably not see time at qb.  The effect on Central as a team may not be a game changer.  With Coe, I don't think if they had anyone else at qb they are in the position they are currently.  It's purely speculation, but I believe Boyle has been more instrumental to his team's success.  Zachary is a very worthy recipient as well.  It should be an interesting end to the season.

[DutchHawk]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

I could see a co-COY award this year...perhaps?

Have to agree that Zachary is POY going by the stats and statements youve made.

I agree COY co-coaches and Zachery is the POY he has really been the key to Central and they are undeafeated

I agree, but my thing is what if Zachary wasn't on the team.  Central is very good team, and w/o Zachary it would appear Snead would be in a larger role running the ball and probably not see time at qb.  The effect on Central as a team may not be a game changer.  With Coe, I don't think if they had anyone else at qb they are in the position they are currently.  It's purely speculation, but I believe Boyle has been more instrumental to his team's success.  Zachary is a very worthy recipient as well.  It should be an interesting end to the season.

You would probably see Lackey running more.

[CaliRamRL6]

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/oceanside/article_1ff31716-9797-5bf2-9c55-7051f1213de6.html

I came across this article about a guy at my old high school in CA. I'm interested to see how this plays out.

[DutchFan2004]

I think a strong case can be made for Nate Snead for player of the year.  He has 9 passing td's and 13 rushing including the game winner against UWSP.  His qb efficiency rating is 138.08 vs Boyle's 131.2.

Boyle's rating is 148.8 and combined passing/rushing has accounted for around 800 more yards and and 2 more touchdowns than Snead.  Zachary is having the best year at rb in the league and Boyle is at qb.  Zweifel should be ranked ahead Snead.

I'll give you Staker as COY, although to go from 5-5 to a projected 9-1 or 6-4 to projected 10-0 as McMartin has is really the same level of improvement.  The fact that Coe was given no respect in pre-season ratings AND they seem to have done it with a relatively one dimensional offensive attack is quite a feat.

If Player of the Year is so named because they are avoiding the Most Valuable Player comparison, then I assume POY is the best player in the league.  In that contest it goes Zachary, Zwiefel, and dead heat for 3rd with Boyle/Snead/Bladt.  DZ is out rushing #2 RB by 40 yds per game in conference.  And much of that is done in the first half of blowouts.  Zweifel is similarly ahead in receiving yards.  Boyle has strong passing stats, but also average 32 attempts per game, to Central's dual system with 21 per game.  Central hasn't needed to pass as much as Boyle, so while Boyle may be very valuable, Zachary is the best player.  Maybe Zwiefel can have it next year when DBQ is more competitive.

I could see a co-COY award this year...perhaps?

Have to agree that Zachary is POY going by the stats and statements youve made.

I agree COY co-coaches and Zachery is the POY he has really been the key to Central and they are undeafeated

I agree, but my thing is what if Zachary wasn't on the team.  Central is very good team, and w/o Zachary it would appear Snead would be in a larger role running the ball and probably not see time at qb.  The effect on Central as a team may not be a game changer.  With Coe, I don't think if they had anyone else at qb they are in the position they are currently.  It's purely speculation, but I believe Boyle has been more instrumental to his team's success.  Zachary is a very worthy recipient as well.  It should be an interesting end to the season.

Maybe I am wrong here but the IIAC MVP is the best of the teams MVP's are they not?  I don't think the debate is about who is more important to who's team if that were the case I would throw out Heys Jr.  Who has been more important to that offense?  I think that you have the sense of who is most important to their team.  I am not sure that is the case.  I may be wrong.  I don't think that there is a more important player than DZ to the Dutch.  He has gotten it done with all of the defenses knowing that he is coming with the rock and they have not stopped him.  Slowed him down some but not stopped him.  I also would say that Boyle against Central had a mediocre day.  MVP's lift and carry their teams through those games.  MVP's find a way to get it done for their teams. 

[Klompen]

Good Luck to Wartburg and Buena Vista this week

sincerely from the MWC

Life can't be any fun when you always have to hope for others to lose.  

I don't know if it will be a close game or a blowout, don't care, as long as the Dutch take care of business and get the W.

Not rooting against, rooting for.....I really respect the Wburg and BV programs

So why don't you respect the Central program?  The most winning program in the IIAC?  Not saying that you don't, just don't understand your thinking,

[Klompen]

dutchawk, true statement about last year records but 18 out of 19 starters back on a team that averaged 48 a game last year and 48 a game this year is a pretty consistent offense no matter who they play and lets see how central matches up against 4 and5 wides. That vaunted pass rush better be just that.

Why are Monmouth fans acting like Central and Monmouth are already scheduled to play?  Why should we care about Monmouth at this point and why are they looking ahead?  And if you improved so much why aren't you averaging more than last year with nearly all your starters back? 

Central has one thing to focus on and that is Wartburg.  Period.  Win or lose, next week we focus on getting better for a yet to be determined playoff team, the following week, we focus on whatever team we get paired with.  And so it goes.

[Klompen]

If the Dutch play not to lose, they will lose.

That is my main concern right now.  Central has had times when they have played not to lose and it gets them every time.  Don't change what works, play to win and finish strong.

[doolittledog]

So why don't you respect the Central program?  The most winning program in the IIAC?  Not saying that you don't, just don't understand your thinking,

Some people just don't like the Dutch...

[Klompen]

I agree, but my thing is what if Zachary wasn't on the team.  Central is very good team, and w/o Zachary it would appear Snead would be in a larger role running the ball and probably not see time at qb.  

Not commenting on POY, just on these statements.  I don't think you can discount what having Snead at QB has done for this Central team.  If Zachary was not on the team, Snead would still be QB.  Lackey would be the running back, but Snead might have more carries.

[Klompen]

So why don't you respect the Central program?  The most winning program in the IIAC?  Not saying that you don't, just don't understand your thinking,

Some people just don't like the Dutch...

Well they should, what other team has dedicated female fans?

[Purple Heys]

Still lurking, just not as often.  I've been busy too, and I haven't been able to make it to as many games this year.  Sorry that you guys from other schools don't understand what it's like to have a successful career.

Things that made me chuckle this morning:

- B.O.Y. comes out of the woodwork with a zinger!  

- Double D's Some people just don't like the Dutch...  

- scots fan's general cluelessness...  

[scots fan]

clueless? why is it that a team that is 20-1 the last two years can not get any respect from this board. lets face it with the exception of mount union and uww you can take 3 through 12 and the team that makes the least mistakes will probably win the game.though i might be biased because i have a son that starts for monmouth i know a good football team when i see one.

[doolittledog]

clueless? why is it that a team that is 20-1 the last two years can not get any respect from this board. lets face it with the exception of mount union and uww you can take 3 through 12 and the team that makes the least mistakes will probably win the game.though i might be biased because i have a son that starts for monmouth i know a good football team when i see one.

What conference did that 1 team that beat the Scots come from