FB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

UD season preview...before the season has actually started

http://www.dbq.edu/udathletics/news.cfm?ID=1478&team=Football

UD is expecting around 170 student-athletes to begin pre-season practice in mid-August and return 16 letterwinners on defense and 18 on offense.

"I am very excited about our personnel on offense," stated Zweifel."We have some big weapons on this side of the ball and we had a great year recruiting. The battle for quarterback will involve talented freshmen, transfers, and our returners. "Michael has a legitimate shot to be one of the most prolific receivers in college football history."

We really feel good about the improvement of our defense the last third of the 2009 season and during spring football practice," added Zweifel. "The Spartans return six players on defense who played in all 10 games in 2009. Mix in a recruiting class loaded with talent and we should be improved in 2010."

The weakest link last season for the Spartans was in the special teams area. UD recruited seven new kickers to improve this area of the team as well as two honored long snappers. Eric Laskowski took over the punting duties after Scott Heiar was injured during last season and will return as punter for the Spartans.

[doolittledog]

Been a while guys and girls. A lot of changes in my life. Pretty interesting last few months.
Saw one preason poll with central at 10 and Coe at 20.

Great to have you back, Klop.  Hope things are going well for you now.  Hopefully, the season ending game between UD and BV this year will have some playoff possibilities tied to it!!!

[Pat Coleman]

UD season preview...before the season has actually started

http://www.dbq.edu/udathletics/news.cfm?ID=1478&team=Football

UD is expecting around 170 student-athletes to begin pre-season practice in mid-August and return 16 letterwinners on defense and 18 on offense.

"I am very excited about our personnel on offense," stated Zweifel."We have some big weapons on this side of the ball and we had a great year recruiting. The battle for quarterback will involve talented freshmen, transfers, and our returners. "Michael has a legitimate shot to be one of the most prolific receivers in college football history."

We really feel good about the improvement of our defense the last third of the 2009 season and during spring football practice," added Zweifel. "The Spartans return six players on defense who played in all 10 games in 2009. Mix in a recruiting class loaded with talent and we should be improved in 2010."

The weakest link last season for the Spartans was in the special teams area. UD recruited seven new kickers to improve this area of the team as well as two honored long snappers. Eric Laskowski took over the punting duties after Scott Heiar was injured during last season and will return as punter for the Spartans.

And if you read our preview you'll find out which of those kickers the coaching staff is high on.

[doolittledog]

And if you read our preview you'll find out which of those kickers the coaching staff is high on.

I plan on it...I've got the preview for 3 or 4 years now and have always been impressed by it and spend hours and hours pouring over the info in it.  Looking forward to getting it. 

[footballdaddy]

Congrats to Central and Coe for making the Top 25.

[footballdaddy]

UD season preview...before the season has actually started

http://www.dbq.edu/udathletics/news.cfm?ID=1478&team=Football

UD is expecting around 170 student-athletes to begin pre-season practice in mid-August and return 16 letterwinners on defense and 18 on offense.

"I am very excited about our personnel on offense," stated Zweifel."We have some big weapons on this side of the ball and we had a great year recruiting. The battle for quarterback will involve talented freshmen, transfers, and our returners. "Michael has a legitimate shot to be one of the most prolific receivers in college football history."

We really feel good about the improvement of our defense the last third of the 2009 season and during spring football practice," added Zweifel. "The Spartans return six players on defense who played in all 10 games in 2009. Mix in a recruiting class loaded with talent and we should be improved in 2010."

The weakest link last season for the Spartans was in the special teams area. UD recruited seven new kickers to improve this area of the team as well as two honored long snappers. Eric Laskowski took over the punting duties after Scott Heiar was injured during last season and will return as punter for the Spartans.

170 in camp? Who do they think they are, Wartburg?

[doolittledog]

170 in camp? Who do they think they are, Wartburg?

That was my first thought as well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em

I suppose the good thing about those numbers is those kids aren't suiting up for other IIAC teams

[footballdaddy]

Funny how everyone who condemmed Wartburg's way of doing things are now doing it themselves.

[Willie University]

Funny how everyone who condemmed Wartburg's way of doing things are now doing it themselves.

Recruiting is only "wartburg's way of doing things"?? Who condemmed what?? I seem to recall no spartan on here ever making a comment about not wanting to start camp with large numbers. That only makes logically sense and I think every IIAC team tries to bring in a large crop of new players knowing some won't make it through camp, some probably won't ever play at the college level and hope to find some future stars in the making. That's logic.

If you think wartburg "invented" this recruiting philosophy, you maybe need to take the orange and black blinders off and look at every successful D3 team in the nation and see that most of them start camp with probably at least 150 kids.

Willie U

[Willie University]

Grammar correction: That only makes LOGICAL sense.......

typed fast 

[Willie University]

IN FACT, if my spartan co-hort doolittle is bored  , it would be fun to know what kind of recruiting numbers each of the top 25 preseason teams in the nation start camp with 

Then, it would be interesting to look at what each of the IIAC teams start camp with 

All that matters is the final standings and record of course but don't be foolish to think you can win a D3 conference nowadays starting with less then 100 players on your team to start the season.

[Pat Coleman]

Willie: You know what's cool is that Kickoff has all that information.

[doolittledog]

IN FACT, if my spartan co-hort doolittle is bored  , it would be fun to know what kind of recruiting numbers each of the top 25 preseason teams in the nation start camp with 

Then, it would be interesting to look at what each of the IIAC teams start camp with 

All that matters is the final standings and record of course but don't be foolish to think you can win a D3 conference nowadays starting with less then 100 players on your team to start the season.

Nah, I'm too busy dealing with lenders that come back to me a month after I complete an appraisal and ask me to switch it to an FHA order.  Or, ask if I can add an additional comp that sold in the prior 90 days and is within 1 mile...for a rural acreage.  Like if I had a comp like that sitting around I wouldn't have put it in the report to begin with

I just keep coming on here in between pulling my hair out to relieve stress and get caught up on IIAC football.

My guess, is Zweifel is employing a WIAC technique of bringing in a whole mess of freshmen and then "cutting" the majority of them.  Those kids then don't participate with the team during the fall, but can then practice with the team during spring drills.  They then come back the next fall and still have 4 years of eligibility.  And I imagine the administration likes seeing enrollment numbers going up

[footballdaddy]

Funny how everyone who condemmed Wartburg's way of doing things are now doing it themselves.

Recruiting is only "wartburg's way of doing things"?? Who condemmed what?? I seem to recall no spartan on here ever making a comment about not wanting to start camp with large numbers. That only makes logically sense and I think every IIAC team tries to bring in a large crop of new players knowing some won't make it through camp, some probably won't ever play at the college level and hope to find some future stars in the making. That's logic.

If you think wartburg "invented" this recruiting philosophy, you maybe need to take the orange and black blinders off and look at every successful D3 team in the nation and see that most of them start camp with probably at least 150 kids.

Willie U

Willie, in the past Wartburg has received a lot of flak about bringing in a large number of recruits knowing that most will never make it. Now Wartburg is trying a similar approach to Central and bring in a lower number of quality recruits. Coach McMartin told me that Central doesn't like to bring in more than 40 new recruits a year. It seems to work out well for them and I think it does for Wartburg also. Large numbers tax a coaching staff and doesn't give players a fair chance to be evaluated. I don't think Dolittle's Wisconcin theory holds because it's easier to do that 5th year or 9th semester at state college rates than private college rates,no matter how much aid a player gets.

My whole point was the irony of things that Wartburg was condemmed for in the past are now deemed OK once other schools start doing it.  

[doolittledog]

Actually, I'm not for having 170 kids in camp.  For the reasons you mentioned.  But, I will get Coach Z the benefit of the doubt.  He appears to have a good thing going at UD. 

Of course, didn't we have a discussion like this last year about McMartin only wanting to bring in 40 or so freshmen per year but Central had 50+ freshmen starting camp last year???