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Gray Fox


 
QuoteSpeculation is Nebraska Wesleyan's addition is in large part a security blanket for the IIAC, so it will maintain automatic qualifier status for D-III regional and national tournaments.

Is someone expected to leave?
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doolittledog

Quote from: Gray Fox on July 19, 2015, 08:42:59 PM

 
QuoteSpeculation is Nebraska Wesleyan's addition is in large part a security blanket for the IIAC, so it will maintain automatic qualifier status for D-III regional and national tournaments.

Is someone expected to leave?

I don't know if anyone is expected to leave.  Insurance is always something nice to have.

Loras?  They have always relied heavily on Chicagoland recruiting.  There have been a number of Chicago area NAIA schools add football over the past few years...catholic schools at that.  St. Ambrose just joined a Chicago area based conference.  If Loras had an opportunity to join a catholic based all-sports conference with St. Ambrose and a bunch of chicagoland schools it wouldn't be crazy for the Duhawks to at least give that option a look see.

I can't see anyone else seriously looking to leave. 

Someone might be able to argue Coe would like to be in the same conference as Cornell...but I doubt that.

Luther wanting to join some sort of ACM driven conference?  Not likely.

BVU seeing Briar Cliff, Dordt, Morningside, Northwestern as closer options than the rest of the IIAC?  I don't see that either.   
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doolittledog

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Per the Nebraska Wesleyan twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/NWUSports/status/623152477727121408

The NWU Athletic Dept has called a 2pm press conf in Snyder Arena for announcement on athletic affiliation.


And from the IIAC twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/IIACathletics/status/623163172099223552

We'll have some exciting news to share later today regarding the future of the #IIAC. Stay tuned

Duhawks were the 1st retweet.  Maybe that is a good sign they are in the conference for the long haul!
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."

doolittledog

Semi-official as both the Dubuque Telegraph-Herald and the Des Moines Register are reporting that Nebraska Wesleyan is in.  The IIAC and NWU have yet to make it officially official.

http://www.thonline.com/sports/local_sports/article_726d56e8-2f07-11e5-b765-6b69931acb17.html
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."

DBQ1965

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 19, 2015, 11:09:20 PM
Simpson to NAIA?  UD, D2?

Living here in west Michigan in relatively close proximity to several very good football programs at the D2 level, there is no way my UD would be competitive at that level.  I am happy with their current IIAC-D3 affiliation.  Let's get to the point where we can beat consistently the IIAC "big dogs" plus WIAC and MIAC teams as well as going deep in the D3 playoffs.  Hope springs eternal if you are part of the Spartan Nation.
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Fannosaurus Rex

I guess if the Big Ten can have thirteen teams, the IIAC can have a member in Nebraska.  We can always take up calling it West Iowa.
"It ain't what ya do, it's the way how ya do it.  It ain't what ya eat, it's the way how ya chew it."  Little Richard

DBQ1965

Does the addition of NWU portend  East and West Divisions in the IIAC's far off future along with the addition of a few other like-minded institutions?  Are there any current D3 conference championship games between division winners in a conference?  Will the Mississippi and Misouri Rivers figure in coming up with a new conference name?  Stay tuned ...
Reality is for those who lack imagination 😀

doolittledog

Luther radio has a broadcast up with the IIAC commissioner and I think the NWU AD.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/7659970/iowa-conference-adds-nebraska-wesleyan

They mention a name change will be something they look at and could be a possibility. 

If that happens, would conference records start over???  Would Central go from 30 conference titles in football back down to 0?
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."

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Quote from: doolittledog on July 20, 2015, 05:04:55 PM

They mention a name change will be something they look at and could be a possibility. 

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Fannosaurus Rex

The Beatles started out as The Quarrymen.
"It ain't what ya do, it's the way how ya do it.  It ain't what ya eat, it's the way how ya chew it."  Little Richard

Fannosaurus Rex

Up till now the Central v Simpson game was for the IIAC South of Interstate 80 Division Championship.  This will complicate things.
"It ain't what ya do, it's the way how ya do it.  It ain't what ya eat, it's the way how ya chew it."  Little Richard

doolittledog

Quote from: Fannosaurus Rex on July 20, 2015, 09:48:26 PM
Up till now the Central v Simpson game was for the IIAC South of Interstate 80 Division Championship.  This will complicate things.

NWU is already a hated rival then ;)
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."

MediaGuy

Quote from: doolittledog on July 19, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on July 19, 2015, 08:42:59 PM

 
QuoteSpeculation is Nebraska Wesleyan's addition is in large part a security blanket for the IIAC, so it will maintain automatic qualifier status for D-III regional and national tournaments.

Is someone expected to leave?

I don't know if anyone is expected to leave.  Insurance is always something nice to have.

Loras?  They have always relied heavily on Chicagoland recruiting.  There have been a number of Chicago area NAIA schools add football over the past few years...catholic schools at that.  St. Ambrose just joined a Chicago area based conference.  If Loras had an opportunity to join a catholic based all-sports conference with St. Ambrose and a bunch of chicagoland schools it wouldn't be crazy for the Duhawks to at least give that option a look see.

I can't see anyone else seriously looking to leave. 

Someone might be able to argue Coe would like to be in the same conference as Cornell...but I doubt that.

Luther wanting to join some sort of ACM driven conference?  Not likely.

BVU seeing Briar Cliff, Dordt, Morningside, Northwestern as closer options than the rest of the IIAC?  I don't see that either.

In the ever changing NCAA conference shuffle, I think this move is the first step of a long term plan the IIAC is looking to implement.
1. The IIAC is somewhat landlocked to the north, east and south not including St Ambrose, which would most likely join the CCIW with their Chicago based recruiting plan if they choose to leave NAIA. Leaving the IIAC looking West for possible expansion.
2. With the recent trend of increasing tuition rates, the NAIA business model, i.e. small schools awarding athletic scholarships, is becoming harder to justify in the accounting office, which would lead some to believe that if the trend continues, the NAIA model may not be financially viable in 10-15 years.
3. Should NAIA fold, the most likely destination for the "NAIA football powers" Morningside, Marien, and other large schools would be following Univ of Souix Falls to D2.
4. That would leave the other NAIA schools in western tri-state area Briar Cliff, Dordt, Northwestern, looking for a conference home.
5. NAIA folding would also leave Grand View, the most coveted target, open for possible IIAC expansion.

I know it seems far fetched, but as we have seen before, it only takes the defection of 2-3 big names to start the domino's falling...Big East, late 90's WAC, Conference USA.

In my opinion, this move, while a little hard to understand, adds the Lincoln media market to the IIAC, but also sets a president for adding the Souix City and Des Moines media markets, which would effectively double the eyes and ears who get exposed to the IIAC, which can only help student recruitment. Which is the primary goal for all college administration offices.

Outside the Crate

Without wishing to sound too stuffy, my hunch is that Nebraska Wesleyan's leaders sought to be associated in athletics with a stronger group of institutions.  That's not to say its current conference lacks for "good schools," but the stature of the Iowa Conference colleges is probably a step up.  Also, NWU's president, Fred Ohles, is Lutheran and has good relationships with Wartburg, Luther, Grand View, and the several Lutheran colleges in Minnesota.  He's a graduate of St. Olaf.