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CollegeFootballFan

Purple Heys,

Did't understand this, please clarify "There was also a TD saving play when Cornell's Freshman QB stepped in for series and was a lunging tackle from a 55+ yard scramble for a TD"

DutchHawk

The great thing about football is you can explain away losses and justify wins forever but it all comes down to who made the plays, no matter how close or lucky they were, and the final score when the clock reads 0:00.
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MNbeev

Quote from: Purple Heys on September 15, 2007, 07:10:07 PM
MNBeev...
I hear you, but you lack 1st hand experience on watching the game the Rams played today.  They moved with impunity for the most part.  Again, to Loras' credit, they did what they needed to do and capitalized...hats off them.  But, in my opinion, this was Cornell's game to win...or lose.  They had their way with Loras' D.  Cornell's D work their collective a$es off but Mr. McGrew had a great game.
The Rams didn't protect the ball and didn't capitalize and That, however, is why the Rams are 0-1.  They will kick the (expletive deleted) out of Luther in two weeks.  I think Cornell beats Simpson.  Your Beavers are at risk as are the Kohawks.  Your BVD will be a challlenge.  I think the Kohawks are overrated.
My opinion.
And with all due respect, you are entitled to yours...

Heys,
I know I didn't have the "first hand experience" of these fearful weapons that Cornell has.  Of course I have hand the 1st hand experience of this incredible unstoppable offense that cornell has.  And these weapons can be stopped...there are tougher defenses out in the IIAC then the Loras'.  Granted Loras does have SOME defensive standouts, but all in all a D lacking completness.  I am still trying to understand 3 wins, I still see 1...I will try to break down the games in my opinion for the season out look.

Luther vs Cornell - To many offensive weapons for the rams to stop, and a D the played pretty well against Central, granted without Schuring, but still it is central.  Loss

Buena Vista vs Cornell - Cornell at SL, -1 for the rams.  Also a beaver D that is tough against the wing-t, shut out last year, and held for 51 yards rushing.  Against a struggling O, but cornell's D, gets exploited some how by the pass.  Loss

Cornell vs Dubuque -  A bad team to schedule for HC. Dubuque on the raise, O and D improved.  Over and done, nothing else to say.  Loss. 

Simpson vs Cornell - Simpson, they are not the simpson of the past but, they play tough, and O and D that are not bad but not as good.  But dominated cornell last year.  If cornell is better and simpson is worse I will give this game a "it could go either way". 

Central vs Cornell - Loss, nothing else to say, Central is Central, to good all around.

Wartburg vs Cornell - Loss, read above about central. 

Cornell vs Coe - wow, you say the Kohawks are in jeopardy?  The are playing good football, again to many offensive weapons, and a bend don't break D.  LOSS

I know I wasn't there to watch Cornell play against Loras  ::).  And I understand of course your opinions about your team are going to be on the most positive side of everything, and you are entitled to that.  And all the other ram fans are going to do the same, "the rams are so good, so awesome, best offense in the world, coach dillion is amazing, they're going to change around and beat this team and that.  I am sorry but we have all heard it before.  And before you can start talking about 1-2-3-4 wins in the conference please can we see something first, "not literally" we all know I wasn't there.  But I hate to pee in your cheerios but lets be realistic. 

I will give you props for having confidence in your team, and any team can be beaten on any given day, but the rams have a tough, tough schedule for the remainder of the year, I do wish them good luck, it would be great to see them win some games but I am just looking at the games in a point of view that fits me.

DutchHawk

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20 Division III Playoff Appearances

CollegeFootballFan

Quote from: MNbeev on September 16, 2007, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: Purple Heys on September 15, 2007, 07:10:07 PM
MNBeev...
I hear you, but you lack 1st hand experience on watching the game the Rams played today.  They moved with impunity for the most part.  Again, to Loras' credit, they did what they needed to do and capitalized...hats off them.  But, in my opinion, this was Cornell's game to win...or lose.  They had their way with Loras' D.  Cornell's D work their collective a$es off but Mr. McGrew had a great game.
The Rams didn't protect the ball and didn't capitalize and That, however, is why the Rams are 0-1.  They will kick the (expletive deleted) out of Luther in two weeks.  I think Cornell beats Simpson.  Your Beavers are at risk as are the Kohawks.  Your BVD will be a challlenge.  I think the Kohawks are overrated.
My opinion.
And with all due respect, you are entitled to yours...

Heys,
I know I didn't have the "first hand experience" of these fearful weapons that Cornell has.  Of course I have hand the 1st hand experience of this incredible unstoppable offense that cornell has.  And these weapons can be stopped...there are tougher defenses out in the IIAC then the Loras'.  Granted Loras does have SOME defensive standouts, but all in all a D lacking completness.  I am still trying to understand 3 wins, I still see 1...I will try to break down the games in my opinion for the season out look.

Luther vs Cornell - To many offensive weapons for the rams to stop, and a D the played pretty well against Central, granted without Schuring, but still it is central.  Loss

Buena Vista vs Cornell - Cornell at SL, -1 for the rams.  Also a beaver D that is tough against the wing-t, shut out last year, and held for 51 yards rushing.  Against a struggling O, but cornell's D, gets exploited some how by the pass.  Loss

Cornell vs Dubuque -  A bad team to schedule for HC. Dubuque on the raise, O and D improved.  Over and done, nothing else to say.  Loss. 

Simpson vs Cornell - Simpson, they are not the simpson of the past but, they play tough, and O and D that are not bad but not as good.  But dominated cornell last year.  If cornell is better and simpson is worse I will give this game a "it could go either way". 

Central vs Cornell - Loss, nothing else to say, Central is Central, to good all around.

Wartburg vs Cornell - Loss, read above about central. 

Cornell vs Coe - wow, you say the Kohawks are in jeopardy?  The are playing good football, again to many offensive weapons, and a bend don't break D.  LOSS

I know I wasn't there to watch Cornell play against Loras  ::).  And I understand of course your opinions about your team are going to be on the most positive side of everything, and you are entitled to that.  And all the other ram fans are going to do the same, "the rams are so good, so awesome, best offense in the world, coach dillion is amazing, they're going to change around and beat this team and that.  I am sorry but we have all heard it before.  And before you can start talking about 1-2-3-4 wins in the conference please can we see something first, "not literally" we all know I wasn't there.  But I hate to pee in your cheerios but lets be realistic. 

I will give you props for having confidence in your team, and any team can be beaten on any given day, but the rams have a tough, tough schedule for the remainder of the year, I do wish them good luck, it would be great to see them win some games but I am just looking at the games in a point of view that fits me.



I've been looking at it closer and I believe Cornell has the best potential because there is not much left but for Cornell to go up. Really, it's a win-win for Cornell.

Looks like those that follow the conference closely are positive and encouraging to Cornell. But they are not giving up respect until it's earned. Winning a conference game is a good/fair expectation to get some respect. Maybe Iowa is too close to Missouri because Cornell will have to show this board when it's ready.

After losing 13 straight conference games, let's be real, to be the best, you will have to beat the best. Cornell needs to beat one of the best teams in the conference to be legitimately past potential.

I have faith that Cornell has the potential. They just need to focus on taking care of business with the 2007 team. The talent will show itself. I hear it coming.

Looks like Wargburg has a dominate defense and a good balanced attack on offense

Looks like Dubuque might send a message this year

Central looks a little suspect in a strong conference

Coe looks to be on the bubble

The predicted top teams are on top teams after week 1 of conference play, give them credit.

DutchFan2004

College Football Fan,

what do you mean that Central looks suspect?  Are you  talking about how they win?  Luther last year and this for that matter is one of the best non winning teams around.  I think they will give all that Wartburg wants next week.  Going up to the Northlands to play them is no treat as the Dutch can attest the last two times up there.  Central may not win pretty and may not have wide margins of victory but they win.  To call them suspect on the first week of conference play may be a bold statement.  The one thing that is great about college football is that graduation happens and each team must replace the guys they loose.  I think Luther did it very well and I think Central has maintained it.  It is your opinion to say that the Central team is suspect with the performance last yesterday but I guarantee that they Dutch will give all the teams of the IIAC all they want.   
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Wartburg Fan

Had a good day in Waverly on Saturday.  I had a good time at the Tailgate, got to see some of the guys from last years team (Hammes, Tayler, Kause and Noble) they looked good.  I agree with footballdaddy that the Knights left alot of points on the field in the first half. But will also say I was really surpise with all the weapons that they have on offense. It will be interesting to see how the other teams in The IIAC try to stop them. They played 3 at the tailback position and they all were impressive and that didn't include Boom.  By the way footballdaddy I didn't see you at the tailgate or the game. Sorry I missed you.

Wartburg Fan

Dutchfan2004

I agree that Luther will give Wartburg all it can Handle they always do. But again I have to say that I've never seen the knights with this many weapons on offense. I'm not saying that they can't be beat because we all know that in the IIAC anyone can win on any Saturday. I just wish I could make the game next week cause its going to be a good one.

DutchHawk

A win is a win as far as Im concerned DF04...the Ducth have 20 in a row regular season so I dont care how they look. I wouldnt be surprised to see Wburg either be taken to OT or lose up at Luther next week. It will be a great game. I think the thing that separates Central from everybody else is that their special teams are head and shoulders above everyone in the IIAC. 1 blocked punt for a TD, punt return for a TD already this year.
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Klopenhiemer

I have to admit that after reading some of the posts regarding Cornell it brings me back to what this board is really about. 

Central, Wartburgm and Coe fans thrive on this board.  Talking about all the ins and outs of there team and battling over the upcoming head to head games. 

Then we have the usuall Cornell and Dubuque posters who jump on the bandwagon early in the season and make some waves.  Calling for respect and things that have not been earned.  Lets face it.  Cornell lost.  Wheather you saw it first hand or not. 

I didnt see myself nor MNBeev, The Show, or anyother Beaver fan on this board trying to justify our blow out loss to Wartburg.  I didnt see anyone saying did you see the strong Beaver D in the first half make Wartburg leave points on the field. 

All in all my opinion is that lets talk about the game and what your observations are wheather they are first hand or not.  A lot can be analized off of stats and reading press releases. 

Congrats to all the winners and I hope everyone stayed reasonable healthy with no devistating injuries. 

GO BEAVERS LETS REBOUND NEXT WEEK!
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Klopenhiemer

A few obersvations from Beavers Land. 

If we are going to compete the rest of the season we are going to have to find a way to run the football.  I know they boys are not the biggest line in the conference but we have to do better than 12 rushing yards. 

If we can not get the running game then we are going to become one dimentional which has been the case in previous years.  We will have to have one heck of a passing attack.  This is our chance to loosen up the deffenses.  No body is respecting our running game so obvisouly they are preparing for our passing game.  Unless our passing game can break things wide open to help the runnign game it could be a long rest of the season in Storm Lake. 

The deffense returns a lot of players that are strong players. but they can not afford to play 70 snaps every game.  To many 3 and outs leads to a tired squad anyway your slice it. 

I would welcome anyones comments form the game on Saturday or anything other out in beaver land to shed light on our inconsitant and lack there of rushing attack. 
"If Rome was built in a day, then we would have hired their contractor"

CollegeFootballFan

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on September 16, 2007, 05:40:38 PM
College Football Fan,

what do you mean that Central looks suspect?  Are you  talking about how they win?     

Central is suspect because they are the top ranked team in the conference, gave up a lot of points, won by a touchdown, and had a 220 yard rusher, 400 yards of offense and 200 yards on special teams. That's 600 yards of offense. Central lost a lead in the second quarter and Luther move the ball well at times.

Based on that performance, Central is suspect to lose a game or two. Lose to the wrong team and it could be over.

Since Central is expected to be the conference representative to the playoff the expectation is higher. With Wartburg looking like they might have it together and Dubuque looking strong, Central could loss.

I gave Central credit for winning. A win is a win on the books. We'll see how the Wartburt – Luther game goes. I might be able to left the suspect tab if I see some consistency.

DutchHawk

Wartburg and Dubuques competition has not exactly been up to the standard of "having it together" quite yet.
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doolittledog

So should nobody be excited about their team untill they win a conference championship?

Should they keep from posting on here?  Should they say, they beat a bad team so they won't think they are any good untill they beat Central.  And then they beat Central but untill they beat Central on a regular basis they still shouldn't consider themselves any good? 

Sorry for the negativity but it seems like anytime anybody on here gets excited about their team they are told to just reign it in untill their team can win a few more games.  Let them be a homer for their team. 

Ash Park

I agree doolittle and I don't think Purple Heys or myself have been been as extreme as has been said. Pretty sure we are not bandwagon cornell fans and that we both will be posting on here win or lose. I know I kept posting last year until the end of the season. If you don't like what we are posting about our team or what we are saying then don't read our posts but I see nothing wrong with a couple of posters being passionate about their team.