FB: American Rivers Conference

[hickory_cornhusker]

I heard a couple stories last night concerning high school athletics that made me scratch my head, but in this era of winning regularly I thought there might be some validity to them.

#1 Ankeny is looking to build a second high school, but only want to have one set of athletic teams.  Unlike Valley with a ninth grade building, Ankeny is looking having four grades at each building.

#2 If Ankeny gets the OK, Waukee will be doing the same in four years.

#3 Waterloo has pettitioned to combine the athletic programs at East and West.

So can people from those areas either confirm or deny these things are in the works?   I can see sharing in small schools that wouldn't have enough kids to field teams, but big schools doing this seems silly.

What's interesting is West Bend, Wisconsin does the opposite. They have one high school in town but for all extra-ciriculars there are two high schools West and East, but all the students go to classes together. They are divided by birthday. If you were born on an odd number day you "go" to West. If you were born on an even number day you "go" to East. (Unless you're not the oldest child in the family, then you "go" to whichever your oldest sibling went)

Tell me you just made this up.   It's either that or somewhere in West Bend there is an educator with too many masters degrees for their own good that thinks he/she is really really smart. 

I don't know if the birthday thing is true (I have heard it from several people though) but the two schools are in the same building together. Both have championship banners hanging in the gym they share.

[BoBo]

I heard a couple stories last night concerning high school athletics that made me scratch my head, but in this era of winning regularly I thought there might be some validity to them.

#1 Ankeny is looking to build a second high school, but only want to have one set of athletic teams.  Unlike Valley with a ninth grade building, Ankeny is looking having four grades at each building.

#2 If Ankeny gets the OK, Waukee will be doing the same in four years.

#3 Waterloo has pettitioned to combine the athletic programs at East and West.

So can people from those areas either confirm or deny these things are in the works?   I can see sharing in small schools that wouldn't have enough kids to field teams, but big schools doing this seems silly.

What's interesting is West Bend, Wisconsin does the opposite. They have one high school in town but for all extra-ciriculars there are two high schools West and East, but all the students go to classes together. They are divided by birthday. If you were born on an odd number day you "go" to West. If you were born on an even number day you "go" to East. (Unless you're not the oldest child in the family, then you "go" to whichever your oldest sibling went)

Tell me you just made this up.   It's either that or somewhere in West Bend there is an educator with too many masters degrees for their own good that thinks he/she is really really smart. 

I don't know if the birthday thing is true (I have heard it from several people though) but the two schools are in the same building together. Both have championship banners hanging in the gym they share.

Read this from Wikipedia about the West Bend High Schools.  If you believe it, the birthday thing appears to be fact.

[Klopenhiemer]

I heard a couple stories last night concerning high school athletics that made me scratch my head, but in this era of winning regularly I thought there might be some validity to them.

#1 Ankeny is looking to build a second high school, but only want to have one set of athletic teams.  Unlike Valley with a ninth grade building, Ankeny is looking having four grades at each building.

#2 If Ankeny gets the OK, Waukee will be doing the same in four years.

#3 Waterloo has pettitioned to combine the athletic programs at East and West.

So can people from those areas either confirm or deny these things are in the works?   I can see sharing in small schools that wouldn't have enough kids to field teams, but big schools doing this seems silly.

What's interesting is West Bend, Wisconsin does the opposite. They have one high school in town but for all extra-ciriculars there are two high schools West and East, but all the students go to classes together. They are divided by birthday. If you were born on an odd number day you "go" to West. If you were born on an even number day you "go" to East. (Unless you're not the oldest child in the family, then you "go" to whichever your oldest sibling went)

Tell me you just made this up.   It's either that or somewhere in West Bend there is an educator with too many masters degrees for their own good that thinks he/she is really really smart. 

I don't know if the birthday thing is true (I have heard it from several people though) but the two schools are in the same building together. Both have championship banners hanging in the gym they share.

Read this from Wikipedia about the West Bend High Schools.  If you believe it, the birthday thing appears to be fact.

And people said that everyone in Iowa was crazy.  Doolittle that has nothing to do with to many masters degrees that is to many Line's Honey Wheats before the school board meeting. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Plymouth/Canton (a middle to upper middle class suburban district just outside Detroit) has THREE high schools on one campus (though separate buildings).  I'm not sure on the details, but they field separate teams (at least for most sports; not sure about some of the 'minor' ones) - for some sports (esp. soccer and lacrosse) they will sometimes have 2 or more teams in the state-wide top ten among the largest division of schools.  I believe they all share the same athletic facilities, but am not sure on that.

[Walston Hoover]

Plymouth/Canton (a middle to upper middle class suburban district just outside Detroit) has THREE high schools on one campus (though separate buildings).  I'm not sure on the details, but they field separate teams (at least for most sports; not sure about some of the 'minor' ones) - for some sports (esp. soccer and lacrosse) they will sometimes have 2 or more teams in the state-wide top ten among the largest division of schools.  I believe they all share the same athletic facilities, but am not sure on that.

I think what you speak of is quite common in Houston.

[Purple Heys]

Over in the SCIAC - the Claremont Colleges occupy the same general area although they have separate buildings.

For sports they divide/combine as Pomona/Pitzer and Claremont/Mudd...I don't know what happens to the Scripps kids

[Mr. Ypsi]

Over in the SCIAC - the Claremont Colleges occupy the same general area although they have separate buildings.

For sports they divide/combine as Pomona/Pitzer and Claremont/Mudd...I don't what happens to the Scripps kids

I often see teams referred to as Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (or, usually, just CMS ).

[Purple Heys]

Thx Yip.

Anyway they all are there in a nice tidy little bundle in the little 'burg of Claremont.

I used to live just up the road from there.

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Cost to run each sport
(IIAC Combined Average Operating Expenses - 2007)

Rank	Sport	Operating Expenses / Participant
1.	Softball	$1,368
2.	Womens Basketball	$1,274
3.	Mens Basketball	$1,251
4.	Mens Swimming/Diving	$1,184
5.	Womens Golf	$1,145
6.	Wrestiling	$1,137
7.	Womens Swimming/Diving	$1,106
8.	Volleyball	$1,009
9.	Baseball	$966
10.	Mens Golf	$877
11.	Womens Soccer	$850
12.	Mens Soccer	$712
13.	Football	$709
14.	Mens Tennis	$615
15.	Womens Tennis	$522
16.	Mens Cross Country	$458
17.	Womens Cross Country	$420
18.	Womens Track Combined	$401
19.	Mens Track Combined	$344

Source: U.S. Department of Education (via Doolittle's link) http://www.ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.aspx

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2007 Football Operation Expenses - other conferences ...

$660 / Participant in MIAC
$786 / Participant in OAC
$870 / Participant in Midwest Conference
$1,032 / Participant in CCIW
$1,062 / Participant in WIAC
$1,188 / Participant in SCIAC

$27,578 / Participant in Big Ten

[the_mayne_event]

I heard a couple stories last night concerning high school athletics that made me scratch my head, but in this era of winning regularly I thought there might be some validity to them.

#1 Ankeny is looking to build a second high school, but only want to have one set of athletic teams.  Unlike Valley with a ninth grade building, Ankeny is looking having four grades at each building.

#2 If Ankeny gets the OK, Waukee will be doing the same in four years.

#3 Waterloo has pettitioned to combine the athletic programs at East and West.

So can people from those areas either confirm or deny these things are in the works?   I can see sharing in small schools that wouldn't have enough kids to field teams, but big schools doing this seems silly.

What's interesting is West Bend, Wisconsin does the opposite. They have one high school in town but for all extra-ciriculars there are two high schools West and East, but all the students go to classes together. They are divided by birthday. If you were born on an odd number day you "go" to West. If you were born on an even number day you "go" to East. (Unless you're not the oldest child in the family, then you "go" to whichever your oldest sibling went)

Tell me you just made this up.   It's either that or somewhere in West Bend there is an educator with too many masters degrees for their own good that thinks he/she is really really smart. 

I don't know if the birthday thing is true (I have heard it from several people though) but the two schools are in the same building together. Both have championship banners hanging in the gym they share.

Read this from Wikipedia about the West Bend High Schools.  If you believe it, the birthday thing appears to be fact.

that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of. 

i really dont get the idea of separate high schools on the same campus, unless you are extremely land locked. 

[the_mayne_event]

Cost to run each sport
(IIAC Combined Average Operating Expenses - 2007)

Rank	Sport	Operating Expenses / Participant
1.	Softball	$1,368
2.	Womens Basketball	$1,274
3.	Mens Basketball	$1,251
4.	Mens Swimming/Diving	$1,184
5.	Womens Golf	$1,145
6.	Wrestiling	$1,137
7.	Womens Swimming/Diving	$1,106
8.	Volleyball	$1,009
9.	Baseball	$966
10.	Mens Golf	$877
11.	Womens Soccer	$850
12.	Mens Soccer	$712
13.	Football	$709
14.	Mens Tennis	$615
15.	Womens Tennis	$522
16.	Mens Cross Country	$458
17.	Womens Cross Country	$420
18.	Womens Track Combined	$401
19.	Mens Track Combined	$344

Source: U.S. Department of Education (via Doolittle's link) http://www.ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.aspx

do you think these are skewed because of the numbers on a team.  if you have 90 or so softball players on a team, does that decrease the amount/player?

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do you think these are skewed because of the numbers on a team.  if you have 90 or so softball players on a team, does that decrease the amount/player?

That's possible. 
Must also consider games/season (ie travel costs).
Costs/sport comparable with other conferences.
Picking on other sports wasn't my aim
I just found it interesting that Football isn't as much of a drain on college resources as some might make it out to be. 
School financing is complicated.
Remember, I'm not all that bright.

[the_mayne_event]

i was only curios - i didnt think you were picking on other sports - i was just wondering if anyone else thought they used typical numbers on a team or just had an average per team or what.

[snoop dawg]

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