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CaliRamRL6

Dillon resigning isn't a huge surprise. I wouldn't be surprised if Cochrane allowed him to resign instead of giving him the boot. I had high hopes for Dillon when he got the job. He was a finalist for the job my freshman year when Coach Miller decided to leave coaching. For some reason or another, he couldn't turn the program around in the time he had. I wish him the best and I look forward to the guys Cochrane brings in for the vacant position.

DutchFan2004

Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: CaliRamRL6 on November 17, 2009, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: Walston Hoover on November 17, 2009, 07:29:55 PM
no talk here about Dillon resigning?

Link???
http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/diamonds-and-ice/2009/11/17/dillon-resigns-as-cornell-football-coach


Why not Walston Hoover as Head Coach.  His brother as Dc I know of a coach looking for a job that might be a good OC.   ;D ;D ;D

Hmm, I guess I didn't scan the gazette thoroughly enough!!!

Simpson and Luther had similar announcements two years ago.  UD was the only school that put out a release basically saying they canned their coach.  

So, did Dillon resign or was he told it might be a good idea to leave now and the school put out a nice release saying he resigned???

Will Cornell give the new coach adequate resources to do the job properly in Mt. Vernon???  

Will we see a staff with Walston Hoover as the OC and his DC at Augsburg brother moving south to be the DC on the Hilltop???  

Will there be any other coaching changes in the IIAC.  Will this start of round of musical chairs???
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doolittledog

DF2K4...if you had a HC of Walston Hoover, an OC of some former Central QB now hanging out in the SCIAC, and Walstons brother as DC.  I would suspect the recruitment of Iowa kids at Cornell would pick up.  Hire PH as the West Coast Recruiting Coordinator and you might be set ;D


doolittledog

Hopefully Coach Dillon lands on his feet somewhere.  He might not have found success on the football field at Cornell, but he seemed like a good man. 

Walston Hoover

Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 07:51:35 PM
DF2K4...if you had a HC of Walston Hoover, an OC of some former Central QB now hanging out in the SCIAC, and Walstons brother as DC.  I would suspect the recruitment of Iowa kids at Cornell would pick up.  Hire PH as the West Coast Recruiting Coordinator and you might be set ;D


I would leave the coordinating of the offense to Tim and take care of wooing the rich boosters
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Purple Heys

Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 07:53:52 PM
Hopefully Coach Dillon lands on his feet somewhere.  He might not have found success on the football field at Cornell, but he seemed like a good man. 

Matt Dillon IS a good man.  I wish him well on his next opportunity.
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Purple Heys

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I see it this way:  it is what it is.  In the business of College Football you need to win to maintain job security and sometimes you need to do more than that.

Matt Dillon and Cornell have been good to Jr. and we are appreciative of that.  I am certain nobody took those losses harder than Matt.  In my opinion, Coach Dillon leaves as the program is progressing forward, and he stopped that hellacious conference losing streak.  His decision to resign early gives Cornell a chance to bring in a successor sooner rather than later.  Very classy.  I see that as a positive legacy.

The bottom line of 6-34 is not going to be good for a coach's job security.  I do think significant headway was made this year...more so than last year.  I think had we finished with 4 to 5 wins (had we beaten Carleton, Simpson and maybe BV or Luther).  We probably would not be having this discussion.  5, maybe 6 plays go different...how tough is that?

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SpeedKills84

Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 05:59:47 PM
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Quote from: SpeedKills84 on November 17, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
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Some people out there know something???

you have your answer.  the last two coaches now have befallen the same events.  a lack of wins = a resignation after 4 years and the announcement comes at almost the same time for each.  im a bit surprised in that i thought cornell was more competitive this year and kept 4 losses within a one possession game in addition to finally winning a conference game.  but the record is what counts and everyone knows it.  the youth on the team would have bode well for the coming year and coaches.  now its up in the air.  it is what it is and good luck to coach dillon.
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CruAlum58

It looks like the heaviest DL for central is 235. That could be a problem....
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Quote from: CruAlum58 on November 17, 2009, 08:56:50 PM
It looks like the heaviest DL for central is 235. That could be a problem....
A problem for whom? If you are inferring that centrals D-line can run, you may be correct, but I have not seen them enough to know, perhaps some of the regulars can inform us.

DutchFan2004

Quote from: CruAlum58 on November 17, 2009, 08:56:50 PM
It looks like the heaviest DL for central is 235. That could be a problem....


370 is the largest central DL.  He doesnt play but he is a huge guy.  There is a 260lb you missed. 
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warrior35

Cornell has policy that states that family members are not allowed to work under family members.  I have not ever heard of another school with this policy, but Cornell ran into problems with this policy in the early 2000's.  I'm not sure if having brothers as coordinators would be against the policy, but certainly one of them could not be the head coach.  I can't see any coordinator leaving a school to take the same position at Cornell.  Cornell will always have trouble recruiting and competing in the IIAC as they are not nearly as lenient with admissions as most other IIAC schools and I have heard that they just don't have the money to give as much academic money to students as other IIAC schools.

Anyone know anything about the possibility of a new conference forming?

IowaConferenceFan

Quote from: doolittledog on November 17, 2009, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: IowaConferenceFan on November 16, 2009, 10:19:47 PM
Long time reader, first time caller...

Is it too early in the post-season to discuss potential coaching turnovers? The time seems to be ticking by SLOWLY at Loras and Cornell for their head coaches. Loras keeps getting worse and Cornell just stays the same.

IowaConferenceFan makes his 1st post this morning with that...then a few minutes ago we get...

It was just an educated guess given that Reasland resigned after four unsuccessful years, and last year two other coaches were let go the very next morning after the final game. I highly dought this is a "resignation".

doolittledog

Quote from: warrior35 on November 17, 2009, 09:47:22 PM
Cornell has policy that states that family members are not allowed to work under family members.  I have not ever heard of another school with this policy, but Cornell ran into problems with this policy in the early 2000's.  I'm not sure if having brothers as coordinators would be against the policy, but certainly one of them could not be the head coach.  I can't see any coordinator leaving a school to take the same position at Cornell.  Cornell will always have trouble recruiting and competing in the IIAC as they are not nearly as lenient with admissions as most other IIAC schools and I have heard that they just don't have the money to give as much academic money to students as other IIAC schools.

Anyone know anything about the possibility of a new conference forming?

Interesting about the Cornell policy regarding family members...if true.  I don't buy the argument that Cornell can't compete because of their academic standards.  By that reasoning Stanford and Northwestern shouldn't be able to compete in the Pac-10 and the Big Ten.  They do decent with their football teams.  They aren't powers, but they do alright. 

I think Cornell has an endowment that is in the top half of the IIAC and yearly giving that is in the top half as well.  I think for the Cornell athletic department it is a case of convincing the administration that more money needs to be spent on the athletic side of the equation.  Something that might be difficult, but maybe not impossible to pull off. 

Tomorrow I might look for the figures.  I have the yearly giving figures for eash IIAC over the last three years plus each schools endowment figures.  Cornell has the money.  I'm just not sure they have an administration that wants to release a whole lot of money towards the athletic department.  And remember, the Cornell mens basketball team just won the conference title last season.  The Cornell wrestling team is a top 10 team in the nation.  It's really just the football program that has been lagging behind.  It might not be as hard as many on here think to get the Cornell football team heading in the right direction. 

As far as a new conference?  Someone on here mentioned earlier this fall that maybe Cornell, Grinnell, Carleton and maybe a few other more academically known schools might try to form a new conference.  Money wise, I think that would cost schools more money.  I think the answer is to just try to suck it up and try to be more competitive in their own conferences.  Plus, would Cornell really want to leave Coe???  I doubt it.