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AZDutchman

#30060
Quote from: hazzben on November 19, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: AZDutchman on November 18, 2009, 10:50:23 PM
I've been off the site for a little bit. Mom has been sick. Heart surgery was needed. She is doing great now and resting.


AZDutchman:

Glad to hear you mom is on the mend.

On a different note, I was down in Gilbert, AZ on vacation last week.  My buddy and I went to the Hamilton playoff fb game.  Always fun to see how good a team from another state looks.  It would be fun to see them up against an Eden Prairie or Cretin from MN.  

Hamilton is a power house. They are the favorites to win. Ranked number one. Everyone wants to see a rematch between them and us (Brophy). It's becoming a rivalry a lot of people want to see. They beat us earlier this year 24-21.

That was one of the games my Mom watched! :o
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire


Toby Taff

Quote from: BoBo on November 19, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: Old Dutch on November 19, 2009, 09:18:35 PM
So, in one post we are to beleive that the Crusaders defense is good vs the run due to the 59 per game opp. average.  yet earlier on Crusader posting says the ASC brings a pass heavy offense to all games, so the d is pass D tested and ready.  Pick your poison,  This Central squad is loaded with options and much more balanced offensively than the stats may indicate.

On the weather side, as much fun as it would be to throw a snow storm at the Texans, they are calling for 56 on Sat. and mostly sun.  Should make for a very entertaining afternoon, and will allow the Dutch weapons to all be effective. 

I'm not in this battle (my guys have Lakeland to "worry" about  ;)), but a couple things about UMHB. The most obvious thing you will see is the speed at which their LB's hit the point of attact. I wouldn't mock the rushing defense avg just because they come from a passing conference. They do seem to have an extra gear that is unlike what we see up here. You can't simulate it in practice; it'll definitely be an eye opener to most of you. The first time UWW played the Cru, which was down in Belton, everyone came away from that game heavily impressed at the speed at which they play. Secondly, UMHB beat Mount Union in a snow storm in 04 - they played UWW 2 years ago in snow and cold, Dec cold at WW - weather conditions are not going to bother them as much as you might think. They are playoff tested & that should count for a lot ~ they haven't been able to get over the hump called UWW, but then nobody except MUC has in the last 5 years. Win or lose on Sat., Central is going to know they've been through a war.  I wish you good luck.  :)

BTW, where has dutchhawk been lately; he seems to be MIA during an important time!!  ;)
nice assessment BoBo.

Let me add that there are a few rushing offenses in the ASC but to win the conference you have to be able to defend the pass.  Here are the yardage totals in the conference
 
HSU is usually pretty balanced, but has the ability to drop daggers with their pass game (this year was an anomaly due to the starting QB and #1 receiver being injured),  1900yds P 1800 R

MC for the past several years has been high scoring with a lot of passing because of Adam Shaffer 2600 yds P 1600 yds R

McM brought the air Raid offense this year 3000yds P 420 R

LC 3000yds 1200 yds R

HPU 3200yds 469 R

TLU 1800yds p  600yds R

ETBU 950 P 1900 R

Sul Ross 825yds P 2100yds R

What makes UMHB able to defend the pass and run is the LB speed.  BoBo is spot on with that, but UMHb also has good DBs, one of whom has spent most of the year covering whoever the best receiver is on the other side. Brett Parker (#14) is #1 in the conference in passes defended (16 in 8 games) and in interceptions (5 in 8 games.  He also broke the school record for INTs in a career this season)  Having him in the defensive backfield lets the LBs do their speed thing.

Here's a link to conference stats if you want to look at things: http://bit.ly/2q5CzT
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

AZDutchman

#30063
I see the poles above and have read all the 'we will wins.'
but not any score predictions.......

Dutch 27
CRU   23


Go Dutch
Leave No Doubt!
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

BoBo

Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
I see the poles above and have read all the 'we will wins.'
but not any score predictions.......

Dutch 27
CRU   23


Go Dutch
Leave No Doubt!


27-10 Leaves No Doubt
27-23 Leaves a Little Doubt
;)
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

AZDutchman

Quote from: BoBo on November 19, 2009, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
I see the poles above and have read all the 'we will wins.'
but not any score predictions.......

Dutch 27
CRU   23


Go Dutch
Leave No Doubt!


27-10 Leaves No Doubt
27-23 Leaves a Little Doubt
;)

Not when your moving onto the next round! ;D
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

AZDutchman

I thought I should add that this game Saturday is the only game on the schedule. One game at a time. 27-23 or 27-10 Doesn't matter to me either way! ;D
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

AZDutchman

BoBo,

I think someone has something to say to you about Saturdays game....


"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

Airborne Dutch

Check out the Around the Nation column on the front page. Seems that this board isn't the only one scratching their heads about the Central matchup. BTW, will Central be webcasting the playoff games or is there some sort of NCAA copyright deal that prohibits that?
"What you kill in life, you eat in eternity"-Coach Sterling, Training Camp 2005

sportsknight

"Graduating from college in four years is like leaving a party at 10:30." - Chuck Klosterman

BoBo

Quote from: Airborne Dutch on November 20, 2009, 12:51:30 AM
Check out the Around the Nation column on the front page. Seems that this board isn't the only one scratching their heads about the Central matchup. BTW, will Central be webcasting the playoff games or is there some sort of NCAA copyright deal that prohibits that?

Shouldn't be...UWW/Lakeland is being streamed online and on local tv in that area. (scroll down page for link)

Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 11:27:38 PM
BoBo,

I think someone has something to say to you about Saturdays game....




WOW, he looks mean!!  ;)  :D  ;D
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

crudbdad

Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
I see the poles above and have read all the 'we will wins.'
but not any score predictions.......

Dutch 27
CRU   23


Go Dutch
Leave No Doubt!

Speed Kills UMHB 21 Central 10

AZDutchman

The week end is here and football is ready to roll.

Here's one for you, the Arizona Interscholastic Association could not come up with any agreements this year with the local television stations to broadcast the playoff games. Everyone is guessing that it has to do with the all mighty dollar. Greed even on the high school level? :-\
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

AZDutchman

Quote from: crudbdad on November 20, 2009, 01:37:50 AM
Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
I see the poles above and have read all the 'we will wins.'
but not any score predictions.......

Dutch 27
CRU   23


Go Dutch
Leave No Doubt!

Speed Kills UMHB 21 Central 10

At least we agree on UMHB staying in the low 20's. Not their usual 40 to 50 range.  ::)
"I don't know why people question the academic training of an athlete. Fifty percent of the doctors in this country graduated in the bottom half of their classes."
Al McGuire

stanbob

Quote from: AZDutchman on November 19, 2009, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Klompen on November 19, 2009, 09:51:36 AM
Quote from: AZDutchman on November 18, 2009, 10:50:23 PM
I've been off the site for a little bit. Mom has been sick. Heart surgery was needed. She is doing great now and resting.

I'm going to share a little fact about my Mom. She gets very nervous on going to football games and even watching them on TV/internet. In the past 8 years she has gone to two games and watched six games. In those combined eight games her grandsons' teams has lost all of them. That included the one loss season in 2005.

So with that fact in mind my Mom, during her resting period, will not be allowed to watch the games either Friday or Saturday. She has been limited to Andy Griffith, Matlock and the Wheel of Fortune. ;D :o ::)
Hope your Mom makes a speedy recovery, but recommend that you never allow her to listen or watch football ever again, at least if Central is involved.  Two years ago they were known as the cardiac kids, coming from behind to win most conference games.  Didn't have an easy win until we hit St. Johns.  (Quick Dutch fans, give me some Karma, I'm going to need it.)  Wouldn't want them doing anything that would cause your mom to have another episode.  Her health is of utmost concern to the Dutch.   ;)

Thanks for the thoughts. Mom won't be watching any games soon. I took the shortcut off her computer desktop.

It amy not bode well for Andy Griffith though as he stars in two of the three shows she can watch.   ;)
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