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[Willie University]

Willie....just asking not being sarcastic.......so based upon your knowledge and experience would you recommend a kid from California not to go to an Iowa school to play football and get an education?  Are they accepted?  Especially if they are a transfer?  Thanks for your opinion.

No, I am not saying a kid from ANYWHERE should not go to an Iowa college. What I am saying is that you cannot be successful long term if a majority of your kids are not from your local area (for UD, that is IA, IL, WI).

I think diversity is great in every way but I also understand that if you look at the IIAC champions over the past 75 years, I would be willing to bet you can't find one roster that has more NON-local kids then local kids on it. Again, it depends what local is based on where the college is located. For BV, that is Iowa, nebraska, dakota or for Luther, WI, IA, MN. For UD,that is IA, IL, WI and so on.....

Like I said, I think a good estimate of your roster balance should be 75-80% local and the remaining 20-25% non-local. But, Central proves you can win with 99% local. But, they are also located in the center of Iowa.

And of course I was not talking about getting an education, I was talking about achieving long term athletic success only. Any IIAC college would welcome any great student-athlete and UD is not exception. UD is more diverse as where students come from that any other college in the IIAC.

[doolittledog]

Simpson has released their 2010 football schedule.  http://www.simpson.edu/storm/men/football/10-11/schedule.html

Sept. 4 Bethel Indianola 1 p.m.
Sept. 11 St. Olaf Northfield, Minn. 1 p.m.
Sept. 18 Loras* Indianola 1 p.m.
Sept. 25 Buena Vista* Storm Lake 1 p.m.
Oct. 2 Luther* (H) Indianola 1 p.m.
Oct. 9 Central* Pella 1 p.m.
Oct. 16 Dubuque* Dubuque 1 p.m.
Oct. 23 Coe* Indianola 1 p.m.
Oct. 30 Cornell* Mt. Vernon 1 p.m.
Nov. 13 Wartburg* (S) Indianola 1 p.m.


2 MIAC opponants in Bethel and St. Olaf.  

That makes BVU as the lone hold out for not posting their 2010 schedule. 

[doolittledog]

Updated IIAC non-con games for this coming season...

BVU
9/04 - UW-Platteville...3-7 last season with close wins against BVU and DBQ
9/11 -  

Central
9/04 - UW-Oshkosh...4-6 last season
9/11 - @ Augustana...6-4 last season with a close loss to Coe

Coe
9/04 - @ Iowa Wesleyan...2-9 last season with wins over Trinity and IIAC whipping boy Waldorf
9/11 - Olivette Nazarine...2-9 last season with a win over Trinity

Cornell
9/04 - North Central...8-2 last season with close losses to Ohio Northern and Ill. Wesleyan...ruh roh raggy
9/11 - @ Macalester...2-8 last season with wins over Maranatha Baptist and St Scholastica...come see us win a game!!!

Dubuque
9/04 - Rockford...1-9 last season with their 1 win against Maranatha Baptist...better win, I'll be at the game!!!
9/11 - @ UW-Platteville...3-7 last season with close wins against BVU and DBQ

Loras
9/04 -  Elmhurst...4-6 last season
9/11 -  @ Rockford...1-9 last season with their 1 win against Maranatha Baptist...and a big loss to UD

Luther
9/04 - St Olaf...traditional Luther opponant went 5-5 last season with a win over Luther
9/11 - @ Northwestern...went 5-5 last season with a loss to Simpson

Simpson
9/04 -   Bethel...7-3 last season
9/11 -   @ St. Olaf...5-5 last season with a win over Luther, who beat Simpson

Wartburg
9/04 -   Monmouth...10-1 last season with a 1st round playoff loss to St. Thomas...who went on to beat Coe
9/11 -   @ Gustavus Adolphus...4-6 last season with a close loss to Coe, who beat Wartburg

[warthog]

A wrestling question on a football board: 

How does the IIAC's co-coach of the year come from a team that finished the conference tournament 1 point out of last place? 

[CaliRamRL6]

A wrestling question on a football board: 

How does the IIAC's co-coach of the year come from a team that finished the conference tournament 1 point out of last place? 

Central's wrestling team has been really REALLY bad in recent years. I guess they've shown enough improvement for their coach to be rewarded. I don't really agree with him sharing the award. Placing the Cornell blinders aside, Coach O (Coe's coach) probably deserved this award by himself. Either way, congrats to Coach Duroe for being named co-coach of the year.

[warthog]

CaliRamRL6:

Since both Coach O at Coe and Coach Miller at Wartburg have been recent coaches of the year, I wasn't surprized neither were COY.  The Cornell coach seems like a good choice, but I guess if there was to be a co-Coach of the Year I was most amazed that the UD coach wasn't the choice.

[Klompen]

for the first time in years, ud did not send a representative to the football recruiting fairs in florida. . .i find that most interesting. . .shame on vince for bringing all those florida kids to iowa. . .hope the spartans can get it done with local kids, but i suspect the best iowa kids will choose central and wartburg over ud; the best wisc kids will play in the wiac, seems to me the chicagoland area is the most furtile recruiting area left. . .that's where birmingham got them back in the day. . .

I don't know why a school would give up on a recruiting area where they have already had a measure of success, but different coaches do different things.  Maybe the intensity of this winter with all the snow hit them hard with retention.  If I was from Florida, I would have to question why I decided to go to school in Iowa with a year like this one.  We have great schools, but this year is a little much for those of us "seasoned" to it, I can't imagine what the warm weather kids must be thinking.

[Klompen]

There is no reason to think kids from our area won't think that UD is as good of an option as Central or Wartburg or any of the WIAC schools. 

As good as Wartburg anyway.   

Since I'm already picking on them...

Wartburg's money problems are well known and ironically, they did not win the championships in football and men's basketball as expected.   

Just love it when timely coincidences give me a reason to jest.   

[NewKnightDad]

But they did win the wrestling title.

On what was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them no less.

[Klompen]

A wrestling question on a football board: 

How does the IIAC's co-coach of the year come from a team that finished the conference tournament 1 point out of last place? 

"the Central College wrestling team snapped a five-year string of last-place finishes..."

It doesn't have to be the conference champ that wins COY, just see this year's football.  Sometimes, it is the coach that does something unexpected.  Who didn't expect WB to do well?  

I said it before, I'll say it again, we're coming after you, just look at football and men's basketball preseason picks and finishes...  

[Klompen]

A wrestling question on a football board: 

How does the IIAC's co-coach of the year come from a team that finished the conference tournament 1 point out of last place? 

Central's wrestling team has been really REALLY bad in recent years. I guess they've shown enough improvement for their coach to be rewarded. I don't really agree with him sharing the award. Placing the Cornell blinders aside, Coach O (Coe's coach) probably deserved this award by himself. Either way, congrats to Coach Duroe for being named co-coach of the year.

Sadly Central's wrestling team has been REALLY bad in recent years.  I hate wrestling, but am always glad to see a Central team improve.  Congratulations to both coaches, I won't say Van Kley did or didn't deserve the recognition or that Cornell's coach didn't deserve to have it alone, but good recognition for both of them.

[Klompen]

But they did win the wrestling title.

On what was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them no less.

That is always good, but at the same time, WB has been at the top a lot, and when you are there a lot, you have reloading years, not rebuilding years.  And if WB does get to win a title, I'm glad it is in a sport I wouldn't spend 2 minutes watching.   

[D O.C.]

But, they are also located in the center of Iowa.

....and that would make them what? Central? 

[doolittledog]

The NAIA football board is saying that Rick Willis is the 4th of 4 coaches to interview for the vacant head coaching position at the University of Sioux Falls.  USF if the defending champion of the NAIA and announced earlier this year they are moving to NCAA D2.  Willis is supposedly interviewing today with an announcement scheduled for friday. 

[Purple Heys]

Willie....just asking not being sarcastic.......so based upon your knowledge and experience would you recommend a kid from California not to go to an Iowa school to play football and get an education?  Are they accepted?  Especially if they are a transfer?  Thanks for your opinion.

Jr.'s from California, went to an Iowa School (Cornell), things turned out pretty good for him overall.  Iowa is a great place to live, work and shop....if you can handle not being near an ocean.  

Seriously, from a dad's perspective, he grew more than just physically during his time in Iowa.

I know of 5 other kids that came from North County San Diego (3 are current Coe students, the other 2 are Cornell grads now) that went to IIAC schools and they all seem to have benefited in many ways beyond academics.  All are athletes, BTW.

Additionally, I know of 2 kids that went to Graceland (football).  They lasted 1 year and couldn't get out of there quick enough