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Quote from: Klompen on September 09, 2010, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 08, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 01:21:13 AM
I am sure a WIAC team would have gladly not played a D-II or NAIA school.

Coaches avoid scheduling tenure reducers.

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.

Secure coaches don't worry about it.  Central has typically tried to schedule good non-conference games knowing that they will only help us get better.  Playing a challenging schedule is the best preparation for the playoffs. 



Like Lakeland and Albion in 2008

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BoBo

Quote from: Willie University on September 09, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 08, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 01:21:13 AM
I am sure a WIAC team would have gladly not played a D-II or NAIA school.

Coaches avoid scheduling tenure reducers.

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.

I heard from a reliable source that Coach Z offered to play UW-Whitewater but they declined. A case of everything to lose and nothing to gain I suppose. Oh well, Hopefully in the not so distant future we meet them in the playoffs. You have to believe and I do.

Anyone who finds that unusual would have to be delusional. Of course, he would make that phone call -- probably did it before telling his wife and kids they would be moving again to take the DU job!!  ;)  Anything to stick it to Dr. Plinski at UWW for not selecting him for the Warhawk job in the first place. Tell me you wouldn't do the same thing knowing full well what the answer would be? Had I been the UWW AD, I would've called his bluff & raised him. Whitewater ended up playing 2 overmatched NAIA schools last year & another one this week -- what difference would it make beating the daylights out of an overmatched Dubuque team, too? I did watch that Rockford game last week.  ;) 
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Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 09, 2010, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 08, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 01:21:13 AM
I am sure a WIAC team would have gladly not played a D-II or NAIA school.

Coaches avoid scheduling tenure reducers.

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.



A) 5-5 vs. 4-6 ... building programs require winning records
B) Consecutive losing seasons deter recruits
C) Declining rosters affect enrollment & budgets
D) Administrators reorganize underperforming departments
E) Hence: Coaches schedule equal/lesser noncons


I truly do not think Division III athletic departments make that kind of judgment call based on 5-5 vs. 4-6.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 09, 2010, 10:34:47 PM
Whoa ... new look for IIAC
http://www.iowaconference.com/


Too bad it's ICS and not PrestoSports. That's a great-looking IIAC logo, though.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

doolittledog

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2010, 01:00:03 AM

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.

I truly do not think Division III athletic departments make that kind of judgment call based on 5-5 vs. 4-6.

I think you are correct for 90% of D3, but the previous Simpson and Dubuque head coaches were let go for records like you mention.

Simpson went 5-5, 5-5, 3-7, 4-6 the last 4 years under the previous regime.

Dubuque went 2-8, 6-4, 7-3, 2-8 the last 4 years under their previous regime.

I suspect if MUC or UW-W suddenly put together a string of 4-6 campains their head coaches might feel a bit of heat...I think even Central or Wartburg coaches might even be in trouble if they put together 4 straight 4-6 seasons.

But yes, the vast majority of D3 coaching staffs would not feel heat for a less than steller overall record.

footballdaddy

This must be a sign of the Apocalypse, but Mediacom is showing a tape delay of the Central game on Sunday night. I suppose it would be too much to ask for this to be a regular occurance for the IIAC.
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Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 09, 2010, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: Klompen on September 09, 2010, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on September 08, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2010, 01:21:13 AM
I am sure a WIAC team would have gladly not played a D-II or NAIA school.

Coaches avoid scheduling tenure reducers.

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.

Secure coaches don't worry about it.  Central has typically tried to schedule good non-conference games knowing that they will only help us get better.  Playing a challenging schedule is the best preparation for the playoffs. 



Like Lakeland and Albion in 2008
There are exceptions, but if you go back over the past 10 yhears in total, I think the general finding would be that we played teams that were considered top tier in their conferences and even Lakeland had been to the playoffs in the year before we first played them.  Not saying they were from a strong conference, but we aren't out there looking for patsy games either. 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: doolittledog on September 10, 2010, 08:07:48 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2010, 01:00:03 AM

Are D3 schools making coaching hiring decisions based on the difference in record of one non-rivalry game, really? Come on now.

I truly do not think Division III athletic departments make that kind of judgment call based on 5-5 vs. 4-6.

I think you are correct for 90% of D3, but the previous Simpson and Dubuque head coaches were let go for records like you mention.

Simpson went 5-5, 5-5, 3-7, 4-6 the last 4 years under the previous regime.

Dubuque went 2-8, 6-4, 7-3, 2-8 the last 4 years under their previous regime.

I suspect if MUC or UW-W suddenly put together a string of 4-6 campains their head coaches might feel a bit of heat...I think even Central or Wartburg coaches might even be in trouble if they put together 4 straight 4-6 seasons.

But yes, the vast majority of D3 coaching staffs would not feel heat for a less than steller overall record.

"I suspect if MUC or UW-W suddenly put together a string of 4-6 campains their head coaches might feel a bit of heat..."

That, though, would be a difference of SIX wins and losses, not one.

"Dubuque went 2-8, 6-4, 7-3, 2-8 the last 4 years under their previous regime."

You think 3-7 saves Brautigam? Really?
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

doolittledog

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2010, 10:14:20 AM


That, though, would be a difference of SIX wins and losses, not one.

"Dubuque went 2-8, 6-4, 7-3, 2-8 the last 4 years under their previous regime."

You think 3-7 saves Brautigam? Really?

Ah, now I get what you were saying.  Sorry about that.  I was looking at overall record, not the difference 1 loss might make. 


doolittledog

Dubuque Telegraph-Herald and their crystal ball college picks...

http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=295151

They are predicting a 4 point win for Platteville over Dubuque and a narrow 4 point win for Loras over Rockford.


DutchHawk

Quote from: footballdaddy on September 10, 2010, 09:49:20 AM
This must be a sign of the Apocalypse, but Mediacom is showing a tape delay of the Central game on Sunday night. I suppose it would be too much to ask for this to be a regular occurance for the IIAC.

They had the Central vs Simpson game back in 05 I think, I don't remember any other time.
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DutchFan2004

Quote from: footballdaddy on September 10, 2010, 09:49:20 AM
This must be a sign of the Apocalypse, but Mediacom is showing a tape delay of the Central game on Sunday night. I suppose it would be too much to ask for this to be a regular occurance for the IIAC.

The Mediacom Connections channel's telecast of Saturday's Central-Augustana (Ill.) football game is scheduled to air:
Sunday, 9:30 p.m.
Monday, 2 p.m.
Friday, 7:30 p.m.

This is for MC22 channel.  I am happy and will be watching Sunday night as I can not make the game. 
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Willie University

Quote from: doolittledog on September 10, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
Dubuque Telegraph-Herald and their crystal ball college picks...

http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=295151

They are predicting a 4 point win for Platteville over Dubuque and a narrow 4 point win for Loras over Rockford.



I don't know how you can pick it either way, until we beat Platteville, they should be the favorite. As for Lorass, I hope they lose by 40  ;D However, I think they will win by a lot more then 4 points.