FB: American Rivers Conference

[AZDutchman]

Loras AD is thinking to himself...
"Maybe Osterberger wasn't such a bad coach afterall..." 

"Another saturday, another loss for our football team...oh well, Loras is a soccer school anyways..." 

"Our once proud Duhawk basketball team didn't even make the conference tourney last year, our football team might go 1-9, thank God our mens and womens soccer teams are nationally ranked or I might be out of a job..."

"I gotta get me some of what IdahoSoccer is drinking...that is one positive, glass is half full person..."

OR ... "Let's follow Cornell."

Salt in the wound 

I know the jabs at Cornell for leaving is mostly all in fun, but in all honesty if people think they are making the switch to the MWC SOLELY to be more competitive in football they are dead wrong. Most of the coaches of all sports would stay in the IIAC if they had it their way. Who wouldn't want to play against the best competition possible?  Unfortunately this decision was up to people much higher up than the coaches and AD at Cornell. The board of trustees and the president at the present time wanted this move and wanted it for some time. Fact of the matter is Cornell has much higher admissions standards than MOST IIAC schools and has a much longer process for admitting students. Every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any of the IIAC schools in my opinion. It is the belief of the higher ups that switching conferences does put Cornell at a more level playing field as far as recruiting, financial aid, and admissions standards go. This is probably true. In this case it does make it sound like they are jumping ship to be more competitive, but not for the sole reason of being more competitive in football or sports in general. This move definitely has more to do with the mission of the school, enrollment, academics, alumni base, strong recruiting areas, etc

Just curious....If every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any IIAC school,
then where does that put Cornell that has a much higher admission standard? 

I have to agree with Cornell's move. It has to be hard for them to get to these games all the way from New York. Oh I'm sorry, that's the other Cornell. 

When they asked my son.....What is the cooking time difference in an Easy Bake Oven when using a 100 watt bulb apposed to a 60 watt bulb? I didn't know that they were going to be using one in his classes. 

[AZDutchman]

I did a quick scan on the past posts and didn't notice if any one brought up...

What if Wartburg beats UD who beat Central who beat Coe who beat Wartburg? 

[sportsknight]

One of the Coe players had an interesting Saturday night...

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Taser-Used-on-Coe-College-Football-Player-After-Utility-Vehicle-Theft-131012553.html

[AZDutchman]

One of the Coe players had an interesting Saturday night...

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Taser-Used-on-Coe-College-Football-Player-After-Utility-Vehicle-Theft-131012553.html

I can't believe something like this can happen...A running back getting "caught after a short footchase". 

(back to the recruiting drawing board)

[CaliRamRL6]

The words that keep popping into my head are, "Don't tase me, bro!"

[CaliRamRL6]

I think Cornell has high admissions standards but there are other things that keep some quality athletes from either getting admitted or even applying in the first place. One Course At A Time isn't for everyone.

[Phred]

Loras AD is thinking to himself...
"Maybe Osterberger wasn't such a bad coach afterall..." 

"Another saturday, another loss for our football team...oh well, Loras is a soccer school anyways..." 

"Our once proud Duhawk basketball team didn't even make the conference tourney last year, our football team might go 1-9, thank God our mens and womens soccer teams are nationally ranked or I might be out of a job..."

"I gotta get me some of what IdahoSoccer is drinking...that is one positive, glass is half full person..."

OR ... "Let's follow Cornell."

Salt in the wound 

I know the jabs at Cornell for leaving is mostly all in fun, but in all honesty if people think they are making the switch to the MWC SOLELY to be more competitive in football they are dead wrong. Most of the coaches of all sports would stay in the IIAC if they had it their way. Who wouldn't want to play against the best competition possible?  Unfortunately this decision was up to people much higher up than the coaches and AD at Cornell. The board of trustees and the president at the present time wanted this move and wanted it for some time. Fact of the matter is Cornell has much higher admissions standards than MOST IIAC schools and has a much longer process for admitting students. Every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any of the IIAC schools in my opinion. It is the belief of the higher ups that switching conferences does put Cornell at a more level playing field as far as recruiting, financial aid, and admissions standards go. This is probably true. In this case it does make it sound like they are jumping ship to be more competitive, but not for the sole reason of being more competitive in football or sports in general. This move definitely has more to do with the mission of the school, enrollment, academics, alumni base, strong recruiting areas, etc

I suspect this is an ACT thing.  It's about who can look down their nose from test scores and high school grades.  I am not surprised if Cornell is a decimal point better than Luther, Coe and others who are close.  The faculty. President and Regents ARE AS COMPETITIVE as any coach.....only the scores are different.

Don't tell me that Cornell is not jumping ship because they are not competitive.  After all it's still about SCORES, MONEY AND JOB SECURITY.  Just like coaching.

[doolittledog]

Admission standards really don't mean a lot to me.  What a school does to prepare you for your life after school, in my opinion, is more important. 

Hot chicks on campus with loose morals also means a lot to many 18 year olds

What would make me happy this coming saturday is to be able to kick back with friends after the game and discuss the Spartans dismantling of the Knights...we'll be having fun regardless...but a win would make things a bit more festive

[Ash Park]

Loras AD is thinking to himself...
"Maybe Osterberger wasn't such a bad coach afterall..." 

"Another saturday, another loss for our football team...oh well, Loras is a soccer school anyways..." 

"Our once proud Duhawk basketball team didn't even make the conference tourney last year, our football team might go 1-9, thank God our mens and womens soccer teams are nationally ranked or I might be out of a job..."

"I gotta get me some of what IdahoSoccer is drinking...that is one positive, glass is half full person..."

OR ... "Let's follow Cornell."

Salt in the wound 

I know the jabs at Cornell for leaving is mostly all in fun, but in all honesty if people think they are making the switch to the MWC SOLELY to be more competitive in football they are dead wrong. Most of the coaches of all sports would stay in the IIAC if they had it their way. Who wouldn't want to play against the best competition possible?  Unfortunately this decision was up to people much higher up than the coaches and AD at Cornell. The board of trustees and the president at the present time wanted this move and wanted it for some time. Fact of the matter is Cornell has much higher admissions standards than MOST IIAC schools and has a much longer process for admitting students. Every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any of the IIAC schools in my opinion. It is the belief of the higher ups that switching conferences does put Cornell at a more level playing field as far as recruiting, financial aid, and admissions standards go. This is probably true. In this case it does make it sound like they are jumping ship to be more competitive, but not for the sole reason of being more competitive in football or sports in general. This move definitely has more to do with the mission of the school, enrollment, academics, alumni base, strong recruiting areas, etc

Uhhh, I think this is a little bit of what Twain would have called "soul butter."  The notion that Cornell has "much higher admissions standards than most IIAC schools" is demonstrably not true.  Indeed, at least 5 Conference schools are in the US News tier of "National Liberal Arts Colleges," including Luther, Coe, Central, Simpson, and Wartburg.  While there's some difference between the admissions standards of the third quartile (Luther, Coe, Cornell) and the fourth quartile (Central, Simpson, Wartburg) schools, it's considerably LESS than the difference between Cornell and, say, its new MWC mate Grinnell.  Atop which is the fact that all are NASFAA schools.  And, last but not least, it at least bears observing that Luther, a founding member of the IIAC and the highest-ranked of its schools in the US News analysis, shared the all-sports title with the Warts (Suck) last year.  In other words, a school in the upper tier of the conference academically can certainly prosper athletically as well.  (Though not particularly so in football.  At least until we figure out a way to reincarnate Edsel Schweizer.)

But, perhaps you Rams will feel better if you just keep telling yourselves this while St. Norbert and Carroll--wait, what was that part about "a level playing field"?--are boxing your ears.

As I said it is the belief of the higher ups. I simply agreed that Cornell making the move for the reasons of wanting to be with more like minded schools is true. I was also defending the athletics department too because they have taken some heat from people who do not agree with the move. They really had no say in the matter. You have no argument from me about Grinnell. Maybe I made it sound like it was my opinion that Cornell is above and beyond every IIAC school but I am pretty sure I said I believe every school in the conference is a good school. Cornell's admission process is a little bit different and usually takes a little bit longer. Most student athletes will tell you they were admitted to another IIAC school before they were admitted to Cornell even though they may have finished the application first at Cornell. It is my understanding that St. Nortbert and Carroll will be possibly leaving the MWC by the way.

[Ash Park]

Loras AD is thinking to himself...
"Maybe Osterberger wasn't such a bad coach afterall..." 

"Another saturday, another loss for our football team...oh well, Loras is a soccer school anyways..." 

"Our once proud Duhawk basketball team didn't even make the conference tourney last year, our football team might go 1-9, thank God our mens and womens soccer teams are nationally ranked or I might be out of a job..."

"I gotta get me some of what IdahoSoccer is drinking...that is one positive, glass is half full person..."

OR ... "Let's follow Cornell."

Salt in the wound 

I know the jabs at Cornell for leaving is mostly all in fun, but in all honesty if people think they are making the switch to the MWC SOLELY to be more competitive in football they are dead wrong. Most of the coaches of all sports would stay in the IIAC if they had it their way. Who wouldn't want to play against the best competition possible?  Unfortunately this decision was up to people much higher up than the coaches and AD at Cornell. The board of trustees and the president at the present time wanted this move and wanted it for some time. Fact of the matter is Cornell has much higher admissions standards than MOST IIAC schools and has a much longer process for admitting students. Every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any of the IIAC schools in my opinion. It is the belief of the higher ups that switching conferences does put Cornell at a more level playing field as far as recruiting, financial aid, and admissions standards go. This is probably true. In this case it does make it sound like they are jumping ship to be more competitive, but not for the sole reason of being more competitive in football or sports in general. This move definitely has more to do with the mission of the school, enrollment, academics, alumni base, strong recruiting areas, etc

Just curious....If every school in the IIAC is a great school and a student will get a great education at any IIAC school,
then where does that put Cornell that has a much higher admission standard? 

I have to agree with Cornell's move. It has to be hard for them to get to these games all the way from New York. Oh I'm sorry, that's the other Cornell. 

When they asked my son.....What is the cooking time difference in an Easy Bake Oven when using a 100 watt bulb apposed to a 60 watt bulb? I didn't know that they were going to be using one in his classes. 

AZ I gave some Karma for that jab at the top. Hopefully you know what I was trying to say. I didn't mean to get a string of responses as I did. Just wanted to throw out that the main purpose and reason for leaving the IIAC was not for athletics....and that is a FACT

[Ash Park]

Admission standards really don't mean a lot to me.  What a school does to prepare you for your life after school, in my opinion, is more important. 

Hot chicks on campus with loose morals also means a lot to many 18 year olds

I couldn't agree more with both statements!

Back to football.....So AJ Derby gets in trouble this weekend and so does a Kohawk?!! I wonder if they were hanging out earlier in the night and the Kohawk was stealing the utility vehicle to go pick up Derby after he got booted from the party bus he was on?

Ok seriously back to football....I am looking forward to watching the UD/Wartburg game this weekend on internet!! Not sure if Wartburg has the offensive power to keep up with UD? Any thoughts?

[doolittledog]

Hey Ash Park...you got this board talking again...that is a good thing!!!

As an old Spartan fan...I'm almost reluctant to talk about this season...I don't want to jinx us

So far, so good for UD.  Wartburg will be a test.  Not sure what to think.  If you gameplan to take away the run, UD can pass for 400 yards.  If you gameplan to take away the pass, UD can run for 250 and still get 290 through the air.  I think one thing people are missing here is the defense at Dubuque is playing fantastic.  I'm just crossing my fingers that this dream season keeps on going.

UD/Wartburg will give a lot of people on here a chance to watch a 2nd IIAC game for the day.  UD broadcast puts on a good production.  Multiple cameras, replays, kiss cam during timeouts...the Central fans last week didn't seem too willing to put on a show for that

[warthog]

Ok seriously back to football....I am looking forward to watching the UD/Wartburg game this weekend on internet!! Not sure if Wartburg has the offensive power to keep up with UD? Any thoughts?

Perhaps the offensive fire power existed early this season, but it has fizzled of late for the Knights.

The Wartburg defense struggled against two top level offenses (Monmouth & Coe) that I don't think are as good as the UD juggernaut.

Were this game on the Vegas boards you would have to give 13 1/2 points to take the Spartans.  As it is we'll just have to say the Spartans should be heavily favored.  I'm hoping for the best from my Knights, but after blowing a 17 point lead against Coe and only rocking Cornell by 28 it doesn't bode well for the orange and black.

Regardless, the weather should be nice and it will be a great afternoon/evening for some IIAC football.

[2timeknight]

I've been to every game this year, it seems that the offense is struggling to find an identity. There really is no flow or rythm at all. It doesn't help that alot of the recievers are banged up. So I say, have a bloody mary, some ribs and sit back and hope the Knights run the ball, and control the clock. Its our only hope.

[footballdaddy]

I've been to every game this year, it seems that the offense is struggling to find an identity. There really is no flow or rythm at all. It doesn't help that alot of the recievers are banged up. So I say, have a bloody mary, some ribs and sit back and hope the Knights run the ball, and control the clock. Its our only hope.

I've been to three games this year and I would agree with you to a point. Injuries have been an issue and have made a difference in continuity on offense. We are also feeling the loss of a couple of coaches. Nevertheless, there is enough talent on the field to win. UD will be a big test of how much we've learned in the prior games.