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fanofallsports

Were do Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel from Dubuque rank when it comes to NFL prospects. I've heard from a few different sources that both are getting looks from multiple teams, and Hookstead is only a Junior.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
After have watched a lot of different teams across the nation at all levels I'm really beginning to wonder if Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel of the University of Dubuque are the top two NFL prospects in DIII football. Zweifel has record shattering statistics and has NFL speed and athleticism. Miles Hookstead is 6'6 250 and there isn't a defensive back in DIII capable of stopping him especially in the red zone. Are these two bound for the NFL? I'm not saying they'll get drafted (although it wouldn't surprise me), but they have to be on several teams radars.

I would like to see him against McMurry's Will Morris, who transferred to McMurry from New Mexico State with Coach Mumme.  The guys at Stephen F Austin said that Morris could play in the D1-FCS Southland Conference.

Will Morris' bio

fanofallsports

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2011, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
After have watched a lot of different teams across the nation at all levels I'm really beginning to wonder if Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel of the University of Dubuque are the top two NFL prospects in DIII football. Zweifel has record shattering statistics and has NFL speed and athleticism. Miles Hookstead is 6'6 250 and there isn't a defensive back in DIII capable of stopping him especially in the red zone. Are these two bound for the NFL? I'm not saying they'll get drafted (although it wouldn't surprise me), but they have to be on several teams radars.

I would like to see him against McMurry's Will Morris, who transferred to McMurry from New Mexico State with Coach Mumme.  The guys at Stephen F Austin said that Morris could play in the D1-FCS Southland Conference.

Will Morris' bio

Maybe, but Hookstead still has four inches and fifty pounds on him. I don't know any of these players personally but from what I've heard from some people both Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel turned down D1 offers to be where they're currently at. Zweifel because he wanted to play for his dad, and Hookstead because he wanted to dual sport and because I've heard his family is very close to Stan Zweifel the head coach at UD.

doolittledog

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Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 05:37:58 PM
Were do Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel from Dubuque rank when it comes to NFL prospects. I've heard from a few different sources that both are getting looks from multiple teams, and Hookstead is only a Junior.

Oh boy, here we go.  Hopefully this won't get too ugly.

There are plenty of prospects in D3 that deserve a look from pro scouts.  Many don't...from reasons such as playing on a bad team, to perhaps not having a coach with proper contacts in the pros to get his player a look. 

Pro scouts tend to look at size and 40 times, and what not.  That might be an advantage for Mr. Hookstead with his size.  Not so sure about his speed.  He has good hands, but he will have the image of D3 working against him.  Hopefully...he is just a junior...he might be able to attend a pro day somewhere.  Maybe in Wisky.  For Michael Zweifel, his numbers I am sure are opening some eyes and perhaps a tryout somewhere.  Sometimes scouts will come to a school and work a kid out on their own.  Zweifels size and speed might be a negative only because the NFL likes to see players fit into a certain box when it comes to speed and size and he's not really in it. 

My guess is perhaps these two kids get a look-see from a few teams.  But nothing much will come of it.  I hope I'm wrong, but it's not every year a D3 kid makes it onto an NFL roster.  Either way, these are both good kids and I wish them well in their lives.  Whether that is playing on the grid iron...coaching on the grid iron...or becoming a working stiff like most of the rest of us. 

Now let's see those two and the rest of the Spartan team tear it up next saturday against the Cornell Rams.  My wife and I and our kids will be in attendance!!!

doolittledog

For any of you Wartburg fans...or Dubuque fans that were at the UD/Wartburg game this weekend and want to see how it looked on the webcast.  Here is the link.  http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/dbq.portal#

Click the "On Demand" tab and you can find the game there. 

Pat Coleman

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2011, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
After have watched a lot of different teams across the nation at all levels I'm really beginning to wonder if Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel of the University of Dubuque are the top two NFL prospects in DIII football. Zweifel has record shattering statistics and has NFL speed and athleticism. Miles Hookstead is 6'6 250 and there isn't a defensive back in DIII capable of stopping him especially in the red zone. Are these two bound for the NFL? I'm not saying they'll get drafted (although it wouldn't surprise me), but they have to be on several teams radars.

I would like to see him against McMurry's Will Morris, who transferred to McMurry from New Mexico State with Coach Mumme.  The guys at Stephen F Austin said that Morris could play in the D1-FCS Southland Conference.

Will Morris' bio

Maybe, but Hookstead still has four inches and fifty pounds on him. I don't know any of these players personally but from what I've heard from some people both Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel turned down D1 offers to be where they're currently at. Zweifel because he wanted to play for his dad, and Hookstead because he wanted to dual sport and because I've heard his family is very close to Stan Zweifel the head coach at UD.
Morris delivers a powerful blow as a safety, and he impressed the (D1FCS) SFA people in the first week.  That is why I mentioned him.   :)

fanofallsports

Maybe. Hard to know unless they play each other. What is a fact though at least from statistics is that Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel are two of the best players at their position in DIII college football.

Klompen

Central's Randy Busscher (Vikings), Mike Stumburg (I think) and Mark Kacmarynski (Bears) all got a free agent shot at the NFL, if I remember right, but none of them made it.  Then there was the kid from Sioux Center that got drafted and played 13 seasons and 4 super bowls for the Miami Dolphins.  I just love having a chance to bring up the olden days and that one bright spot of supreme talent when given the chance.  In Pella, the only name on the infamous Miami "No-Name Defense" that mattered was Vern Den Herder's.  He's the one my parents always claimed when asked if they had a son on the Central team.   ;D

Old Dutch

Quote from: fanofallsports on October 09, 2011, 05:37:58 PM
Were do Miles Hookstead and Mike Zweifel from Dubuque rank when it comes to NFL prospects. I've heard from a few different sources that both are getting looks from multiple teams, and Hookstead is only a Junior.

Hmmm . . . thought this had a familiar tone to it . . .From Dubuque4life, circa 2009:

RE:  Is Miles Hookstead the best freshman in the IIAC?
« Reply #27668 on: September 09, 2009, 12:48:22 pm »
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Is Dubuque freshman tight end the best freshman in the IIAC?


Its great to be a big fan and all, but let life run its course, there will be plenty of time to gloat when MH or MZ are catching Cam Newton Touchdown passes.   Don't get me wrong MZ is VERY talented, possession receiver at best on the next level.  Reminds me a lot of the dude from LAX that played a few years with the Packers, (Schroeder was it?).  He was d*** good too.  MH?  Robert Gallery was a tight at 250 lbs one time too, maybe he should beef up some.
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

Kohawk Krazy

Don't take this post as a knock on Zweifel, as obviously he's a good receiver with his career numbers, but I do have a question on the matter.

Are there other receivers in the Iowa Conference alone that could have great numbers if they were targeted as much as he is?  He has twice as many receptions as any other receiver in the league.  Do offenses that spread the ball around to 4-5 receivers instead of 1-2 have guys that could be just as good, just don't key on them all game?  Obviously they have a great running back in Spaulding now as well, but just something I noticed.

Old Dutch

Quote from: Kohawk Krazy on October 09, 2011, 10:28:03 PM
Don't take this post as a knock on Zweifel, as obviously he's a good receiver with his career numbers, but I do have a question on the matter.

Are there other receivers in the Iowa Conference alone that could have great numbers if they were targeted as much as he is?  He has twice as many receptions as any other receiver in the league.  Do offenses that spread the ball around to 4-5 receivers instead of 1-2 have guys that could be just as good, just don't key on them all game?  Obviously they have a great running back in Spaulding now as well, but just something I noticed.

He's the real deal.  Playing both ways, great hands, makes good adjustments in his routes.  Also has a red hot QB throwing to him right now, but with the catches he makes, confidence in your receiver makes for a better QB too.
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

Ash Park

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Quote from: Old Dutch on October 09, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
Quote from: Kohawk Krazy on October 09, 2011, 10:28:03 PM
Don't take this post as a knock on Zweifel, as obviously he's a good receiver with his career numbers, but I do have a question on the matter.

Are there other receivers in the Iowa Conference alone that could have great numbers if they were targeted as much as he is?  He has twice as many receptions as any other receiver in the league.  Do offenses that spread the ball around to 4-5 receivers instead of 1-2 have guys that could be just as good, just don't key on them all game?  Obviously they have a great running back in Spaulding now as well, but just something I noticed.

He's the real deal.  Playing both ways, great hands, makes good adjustments in his routes.  Also has a red hot QB throwing to him right now, but with the catches he makes, confidence in your receiver makes for a better QB too.

I have watched him play a number of times and he is definitely a great player. However, I still think there are a few names I would put ahead of him if you throw out the stats. Jesse Schmidt and Matt Ditch are the first two receivers that come to mind. Those two guys were every bit as good as Zweifel is and in IMO..better but hey I maybe a little bias. Those two guys had it all...size, speed, hands, good routes, etc...however what they didn't have were great throwing QBs like Mike Z has had. Colton Hansen and Wyatt Hanus are some pretty darn good QBs. Not taking anything away from the young man...like Old Dutch said "He's the real deal".

I realize we weren't really discussing who the best receiver is in the last 10 years but I just thought those were good comparisons. If you talk about present day...he is no doubt the best I have seen recently.

footballdaddy

Quote from: Ash Park on October 10, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
Quote from: Old Dutch on October 09, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
Quote from: Kohawk Krazy on October 09, 2011, 10:28:03 PM
Don't take this post as a knock on Zweifel, as obviously he's a good receiver with his career numbers, but I do have a question on the matter.

Are there other receivers in the Iowa Conference alone that could have great numbers if they were targeted as much as he is?  He has twice as many receptions as any other receiver in the league.  Do offenses that spread the ball around to 4-5 receivers instead of 1-2 have guys that could be just as good, just don't key on them all game?  Obviously they have a great running back in Spaulding now as well, but just something I noticed.

He's the real deal.  Playing both ways, great hands, makes good adjustments in his routes.  Also has a red hot QB throwing to him right now, but with the catches he makes, confidence in your receiver makes for a better QB too.

I have watched him play a number of times and he is definitely a great player. However, I still think there are a few names I would put ahead of him if you throw out the stats. Jesse Schmidt and Matt Ditch are the first two receivers that come to mind. Those two guys were every bit as good as Zweifel is and in IMO..better but hey I maybe a little bias. Those two guys had it all...size, speed, hands, good routes, etc...however what they didn't have were great throwing QBs like Mike Z has had. Colton Hansen and Wyatt Hanus are some pretty darn good QBs. Not taking anything away from the young man...like Old Dutch said "He's the real deal".

I brought this same subject up two years ago and got barbequed by the Spartan faithful for even thinking it, until Pat backed me up a little bit. Zweifel is a good player, but it takes a QB to throw him the ball for him to catch that many balls. It's not like they're just closing their eyes and heaving the ball downfield and Zweifel is fighting off 11 guys to catch it. Against Wartburg he had 18 catches vs. 38 balls thrown, so that shows how much of their passing offense is designed to go through him. Couple that with him playing defense and specual teams and no doubt you have a good player.

Just wondering though, what if he played offense only and maybe had just a little more in the tank later in the game? Maybe turn a 8yd completion into an 80yd TD in a close game?

Just askin'.   
NKD: "We need a f**king touchdown, excuse my French"
FBD: "I didn't know touchdown was French."

footballdaddy

Quote from: Klompen on October 09, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
Central's Randy Busscher (Vikings), Mike Stumburg (I think) and Mark Kacmarynski (Bears) all got a free agent shot at the NFL, if I remember right, but none of them made it.  Then there was the kid from Sioux Center that got drafted and played 13 seasons and 4 super bowls for the Miami Dolphins.  I just love having a chance to bring up the olden days and that one bright spot of supreme talent when given the chance.  In Pella, the only name on the infamous Miami "No-Name Defense" that mattered was Vern Den Herder's.  He's the one my parents always claimed when asked if they had a son on the Central team.   ;D

How many Central fans does it take to change a light bulb?

Three

One to change the light bulb and two to talk about how Schipper did it.


Call me insensitive, but Dutch fans should remember that they are tied for first in the conference and are guaranteed a share if they win out. Mac is pleased with his team because they found a way to win a game against a BV team that matches up well against them and seems to find a way to pull off at least one upset a year. I bet McMartin is more interested in what happens from snap to whistle than having a race to the sideline.
NKD: "We need a f**king touchdown, excuse my French"
FBD: "I didn't know touchdown was French."