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doolittledog

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 24, 2012, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: warthog on February 24, 2012, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on February 24, 2012, 03:01:03 PM
I heard this on the radio this morning so I don't have a link.

New NCAA football rules for next season...

Kickoffs moved from the 30 up to the 35.

Players on the kickoff team will be 5 yards from the 35 instead of 10 yards back.

Touchbacks on kickoffs will now go to the 25 yd line. 

If a player has a helmut come off during a play he has to sit out the next play...like it was an injury.

If a player has a helmut come off during the play he cannot keep playing during that play, he has to stop.

Having a player stop when the helmet comes off will be hard to control.  It seems to me most head gear comes off during the contact while the play is happening.  Stopping at that point could make a player more vulnerable and cause more damage than going ahead with the play.

The same thought occurred to me.  Maybe they just mean that if the ballcarrier (assuming that is who lost the helmet) eludes the tackler, they cannot further advance the ball?[/b]

This was the part the announcer was going irate on.  The part I heard the announcer was saying how would you tell a player like a lineman to just stop playing and how exactly would you enforce it.  He said there were other rules specifically towards quarterbacks and running backs that lose helmuts but I had to take a phone call and didn't hear the rest of his rant. 

warthog

Congratulations to the Wartburg Knights for winning their 20th straight IIAC wrestling title.  Knights had six champions in the ten weight classes.  I need to check if 20 straight titles in a sport is a conference record.  I'd guess Luther had quite a few track titles in a row. 
BE ORANGE

warthog

#36302
Most consecutive IIAC conference titles for each sport

Sport                         College               Number        Years

Football                      Central                5                 1983-1987
Volleyball                    Central                12               1996-2007
Men Soccer                  Loras                  5                 2006-2010
Women Soccer             Loras                  3                 2001-2003
Women Golf                 Central                6                1982-1987
Women Tennis              Luther                19               1982-2000
Women Cross Country   Wartburg            4                 1991-1994
Men Cross Country        Luther                11               1971-1981
Men Basketball              Wartburg            8                 1967-1975
Women Basketball         Wm Penn            6                 1983-1988
Men Indoor Track           Wartburg            4                 2003-2006
Women Indoor Track      Wartburg            9                 2003-2011
Wrestling                       Wartburg           20                1993-2012
Baseball                        Wartburg            11                1997-2008
Softball                          Luther                4                 1985-1988
                                    Simpson              4                 1997-2000
Men Golf                        Central               16                1981-1996
Men Tennis                     Luther               13                 1964-1976
Men Outdoor Track          Luther               16                 1963-1978
Women Outdoor Track     Wartburg           12                 2000-2011
BE ORANGE

doolittledog

Thanks warthog...I could look at stats like that all day long...love it.

doolittledog

Here's what I found from the NCAA about the rules changes...

Next fall, teams will kick off at the 35-yard line instead of the 30. Also, players on the kicking team can't line up for the play behind the 30-yard line, which is intended to limit the running start kicking teams used to have during the play.

Also, touchbacks on free kicks will be moved to the 25-yard line instead of the 20 to encourage more touchbacks. Touchbacks on other plays (for example, punts that go into the end zone, or fumbles that go out of the end zone) will remain at the 20-yard line.

The recommended changes came from the Football Rules Committee after that group examined NCAA data showing that injuries during kickoffs occur more often than in other phases of the game.

Another new rule that goes into effect next season is if a player loses his helmet (other than as the result of a foul by the opponent, such as a facemask), it will be treated like an injury. The player must leave the game and is not allowed to participate for the next play.

Current injury timeout rules guard against using this rule to gain an advantage from stopping the clock. Additionally, if a player loses his helmet, he must not continue to participate in the play, in order to protect him from injury.

Data from the 2011 season indicated that helmets came off of players more than twice per game.

The rules panel also approved new wording in the football rules book regarding blocking below the waist. Offensive players in the tackle box at the snap who are not in motion are allowed to block below the waist legally without restriction. All other players are restricted from blocking below the waist with a few exceptions (for example, straight-ahead blocks).

There will also be a new rule prohibiting players from leaping over blockers in an attempt to block a punt. Receiving-team players trying to jump over a shield-blocking scheme has become popular for teams in punt formation. Receiving-team players try to defeat this scheme by rushing into the backfield to block a punt. In some cases, these players are contacted and end up flipping in the air and landing on their head or shoulders.

The Football Rules Committee raised concern about this type of action and proposed a rule similar to the leaping rule on place kicks that does not allow the receiving team to jump over blockers, unless the player jumps straight up or between two players

warthog

#36305
Indoor track results are in so I fixed my previous post.

Quote from: warthog on February 25, 2012, 12:44:52 AM
Most consecutive IIAC conference titles for each sport

Sport                         College               Number        Years

Football                      Central                5                 1983-1987
Volleyball                    Central                12               1996-2007
Men Soccer                  Loras                  5                 2006-2010
Women Soccer             Loras                  3                 2001-2003
Women Golf                 Central                6                1982-1987
Women Tennis              Luther                19               1982-2000
Women Cross Country   Wartburg            4                 1991-1994
Men Cross Country        Luther                11               1971-1981
Men Basketball              Wartburg            8                 1967-1975
Women Basketball         Wm Penn            6                 1983-1988
Men Indoor Track           Wartburg            4                 2003-2006
Women Indoor Track      Wartburg            9  10            2003-2012
Wrestling                       Wartburg           20                1993-2012
Baseball                        Wartburg            11                1997-2008
Softball                          Luther                4                 1985-1988
                                    Simpson              4                 1997-2000
Men Golf                        Central               16                1981-1996
Men Tennis                     Luther               13                 1964-1976
Men Outdoor Track          Luther               16                 1963-1978
Women Outdoor Track     Wartburg           12                 2000-2011
BE ORANGE

doolittledog

warthog, with his conference championship stats got me thinking about the all-sports trophy.

IIAC men have completed 6 of 10 sports and the standings are...

Luther     35.0
Wartburg 33.7
Dubuque 30.8
Coe        30.6
Loras      25.1
Central   24.4
Simpson 22.7
Cornell   20.4
BVU       15.8

We have Outdoor Track, Tennis, Baseball, Golf yet to go.

Yet again, the Lutherans appear to battling it out for the all-sports trophy
Anybody remember when Dubuque was the bottom feeder in the IIAC???  Not anymore!!!


doolittledog

The IIAC women have completed 7-9 sports with Outdoor track and Softball yet to go.

And the womens all-sports standings goes like...

Wartburg 50.7
Coe         36.5
Luther     35.2
Loras       34.4
Simpson  34.2
Central    29.6
Cornell    26.3
Dubuque  21.9
BVU         14.6

Wartburg is running away with the title and we have a 4 way dog fight for 2nd place

Old Dutch

Quote from: doolittledog on February 25, 2012, 05:31:34 PM
Here's what I found from the NCAA about the rules changes...

Another new rule that goes into effect next season is if a player loses his helmet (other than as the result of a foul by the opponent, such as a facemask), it will be treated like an injury. The player must leave the game and is not allowed to participate for the next play.

Current injury timeout rules guard against using this rule to gain an advantage from stopping the clock. Additionally, if a player loses his helmet, he must not continue to participate in the play, in order to protect him from injury.

Data from the 2011 season indicated that helmets came off of players more than twice per game.

The rules panel also approved new wording in the football rules book regarding blocking below the waist. Offensive players in the tackle box at the snap who are not in motion are allowed to block below the waist legally without restriction. All other players are restricted from blocking below the waist with a few exceptions (for example, straight-ahead blocks).

There will also be a new rule prohibiting players from leaping over blockers in an attempt to block a punt. Receiving-team players trying to jump over a shield-blocking scheme has become popular for teams in punt formation. Receiving-team players try to defeat this scheme by rushing into the backfield to block a punt. In some cases, these players are contacted and end up flipping in the air and landing on their head or shoulders.

The Football Rules Committee raised concern about this type of action and proposed a rule similar to the leaping rule on place kicks that does not allow the receiving team to jump over blockers, unless the player jumps straight up or between two players[/i]

The sight of helmets flying off in play has been a very strange phenomenon to me.  I'm just old school enough to remember the guidelines for a properly fit helmet, an inch above the eyebrows and snug all the way around including the ear pads, which prevented such nonsense.  When applied properly they don't fly off unless someone pulled them off.  The penalty should be called illegal equipment and I think its 15 yards on the coach for failure to have his players properly equipped.

I've always thought the guys who didn't wear the helmet correctly were showboating and probably stupid enough to think it made them look cool.  We have enough problems with this great game we don't need preventible head injuries.  I think its about time and I applaud the rules committee for recognizing it.  Enforcement won't be a problem, they've been able to enforce far sillier rules for many years.

Now about that kickoff rule? 
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

NewKnightDad

Down here in beautiful Orlando Florida watching the Knight's softball team on their spring trip.  I do not predict a conference championship but they do lot like they will be a lot more competitive this year.
Win or lose we still booze!!

footballdaddy

Quote from: NewKnightDad on February 28, 2012, 09:00:33 AM
Down here in beautiful Orlando Florida watching the Knight's softball team on their spring trip.  I do not predict a conference championship but they do lot like they will be a lot more competitive this year.

The only thing that eclipses my jealousy and contempt for you being down there is the hope that the Knights have a successful trip. ;)
NKD: "We need a f**king touchdown, excuse my French"
FBD: "I didn't know touchdown was French."

doolittledog

Quote from: footballdaddy on February 28, 2012, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: NewKnightDad on February 28, 2012, 09:00:33 AM
Down here in beautiful Orlando Florida watching the Knight's softball team on their spring trip.  I do not predict a conference championship but they do lot like they will be a lot more competitive this year.

The only thing that eclipses my jealousy and contempt for you being down there is the hope that the Knights have a successful trip. ;)

I'm wondering if they had to twist NKD's arm really hard to get him to agree to chaperone that trip?  So wonders doolittle from the freezing rain of Iowa ;D

NewKnightDad

Record highs down here this week!!   8-)

The team had the day off wednesday so we went down to Clearwater beach, it was awesome!!  ::)
Win or lose we still booze!!

footballdaddy

And we froze our a**es off with snow and a 50+mph wind.
NKD: "We need a f**king touchdown, excuse my French"
FBD: "I didn't know touchdown was French."