FB: American Rivers Conference

[footballdaddy]

or maybe my significant other and I have a mutual respect and an adult relationship where we dont need permission to do things we want to do....

After your significant other becomes your wife, you will find out that the secret to marital happiness is that you are incharge of vehicle maintence, home repair and lawn care. Everything else is just showing up when and where you are supposed to.

[Ash Park]

My $0.02:  The level of Cornell's competition is the biggest factor for their positive progress...It's hard to call it success when you consider the level of competition week in/week out this year in the MWC compared to the IIAC.  Losing to Coe whether it is 34-14, or 77-7 is still losing and to me does not represent anything that can be termed as improvement sustained just yet.  In 2007 Cornell lost to Coe 17-6 and looked forward to the following year's rematch in 2008.  After scoring first they proceeded to get belted 35-14.  One year does not count.

Are the Rams moving in the right direction?  Given what they do and how they do it...I believe so inasmuch as doing it in the MWC puts them in a more equitable position relative to their league opponents.  And winning creates a more positive environment, which can lead to continued positive momentum which I then would call success.

But realistically, who am I to judge.  It's D3.  Nobody plays for championships except UW-W and Mount.  Everybody else tries their best and eventually gets shoved to the sideline.  D3, in general, is not the fast track to the pros, its for kids who want to keep playing as long as they can.  (Although some do go further...)

So what if the Rams opted to play games against teams they have a better chance of beating...winning is always more fun.

I agree, a loss is a loss.....and win is a win. No question week in and week out the IIAC is tougher in my opinion (one of the reasons I was not in favor of the switch of conferences) but it is what is now.

Big games this week in IIAC play!! Coe vs Simpson and UD vs Wartburg!

[CaliRamRL6]

Do they still play Ring of Fire before every Simpson football game?

[AZDutchman]

or maybe my significant other and I have a mutual respect and an adult relationship where we dont need permission to do things we want to do....

It's too early for me to read if you are putting us on or serious. 

footballdaddy started with 'trying to talk my wife into going also' which isn't asking permission.

I JOKED that he should say he is the boss...which for me, and I believe others (including you, if you have a relationship of mutual respect) would result in our wives being upset we would say we are the boss, when in fact we are in this together.

Most people I know enjoy spending time with their spouses, which would mean we would discuss what the options were for the weekend, and then make a decision from there.  Maybe we do something she came up with, maybe we do something I came up with, or maybe we end up doing something seperately (not likely).  Then you also factor your children and their schedules in as well.   

While my wife and I don't need to ask permission, we most certainly talk about what WE want to do this weekend, we actually enjoy being with each other.  Though, as it turns out, this weekend she is taking our son to her brothers place so he can play with his cousins while I will take our daughter to Waverly for the football game. 

One of the great things about D3 is we often become friends with the other fanbases and end up tailgating with each other.  Something you don't often see at the higher levels.

Fell off the grid for a while. I'm having a great stretch of work. In Arizona construction is still very slow and grabbing it while I can.

I will be at the Wartburg game on November 3rd. Even though tailgating is not at the level of Wartburg. I would still like to get together with any D3 fans that will be at the game.

For the record....I have been married for a long time. I don't consider my wife to be my significant other.  Call me corny, but we are one and appreciate any and all time together. The time that we are together you can call it getting permission, following orders or whatever you would like. If she says this is what's happening this week end and I need you to be here...I'm there. I still stand in front of her (like a little kid) after I get dressed and say, How do I look? If she says change your shirt. Guess what? I change my shirt.   

I do know that my beautiful wife did give me a great gift for our anniversary yesterday.... A trip to the Wartburg game and I'm going to enjoy it with fine folks like yourself. I can't wait and going to start getting ready to go! 

[DutchFan2004]

My $0.02:  The level of Cornell's competition is the biggest factor for their positive progress...It's hard to call it success when you consider the level of competition week in/week out this year in the MWC compared to the IIAC.  Losing to Coe whether it is 34-14, or 77-7 is still losing and to me does not represent anything that can be termed as improvement sustained just yet.  In 2007 Cornell lost to Coe 17-6 and looked forward to the following year's rematch in 2008.  After scoring first they proceeded to get belted 35-14.  One year does not count.

Are the Rams moving in the right direction?  Given what they do and how they do it...I believe so inasmuch as doing it in the MWC puts them in a more equitable position relative to their league opponents.  And winning creates a more positive environment, which can lead to continued positive momentum which I then would call success.

But realistically, who am I to judge.  It's D3.  Nobody plays for championships except UW-W and Mount.  Everybody else tries their best and eventually gets shoved to the sideline.  D3, in general, is not the fast track to the pros, its for kids who want to keep playing as long as they can.  (Although some do go further...)

So what if the Rams opted to play games against teams they have a better chance of beating...winning is always more fun.

Well said PH.  Winning is always more fun.  It comes down to whether you want to be a big fish in a little pond or a little fish in a big pond.  I think Cornell could get to the point of being conference champs or at least competing for them and making the playoffs once in awhile.  That would be good for recruiting and good for the school in general.  Alums are always more willing to let go of money if they don't think it's being wasted. 


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The pond reference was not a slam on the MWC it was just the best I could think of.  If you get to the playoffs you do have a shot and any given day if the 22 men on the field play well they can win.  The trick is getting there and if Cornell sees this as a better way to get there it is a good thing for them.

[DutchFan2004]

or maybe my significant other and I have a mutual respect and an adult relationship where we dont need permission to do things we want to do....

A real relationship does not need "permission" to do things.  It is out of respect for the wife or husband to let the other one know what each is doing.  If each other is always doing their own thing there must not be much togetherness in the relationship.  I would rather spend time with my wife than any other person in the world but our interests are not always the same especially now that I do not have any sons or grandsons playing football.  The weather dictates whether the wife wants to go to a game.  So out of respect and checking to see if there are any other options for activities to spend time with my wife I seek out what she has planned.  If you can't see the difference here there is a lot of maturing you need to go through.   

[wartknight]

or maybe my significant other and I have a mutual respect and an adult relationship where we dont need permission to do things we want to do....

After your significant other becomes your wife, you will find out that the secret to marital happiness is that you are incharge of vehicle maintence, home repair and lawn care. Everything else is just showing up when and where you are supposed to.

I corrected for you (oh, I guess that is @ my house )In reality I enjoy doing the home repair/lawn, but I work out of town & my better half has summers off, so many times when the lawn is ready, it is done by the time I get home.....
My advice to guys; marry a football fan!

[footballdaddy]

or maybe my significant other and I have a mutual respect and an adult relationship where we dont need permission to do things we want to do....

After your significant other becomes your wife, you will find out that the secret to marital happiness is that you are incharge of vehicle maintence, home repair and lawn care. Everything else is just showing up when and where you are supposed to.

I corrected for you (oh, I guess that is @ my house )In reality I enjoy doing the home repair/lawn, but I work out of town & my better half has summers off, so many times when the lawn is ready, it is done by the time I get home.....
My advice to guys; marry a football fan!

In everlasting credit to my wife, she became a football fan so we could spend time together. It made it even better when our son played because she could actually make sense of the game. Of course I have to go shopping with her but that's the give and take.

[DBQ1965]

Re: all this discussion of marriage, permission, etc.  Kahlil Gibran wrote words which I often used when performing a marriage ceremony:  "Let there be spaces in your togetherness."  The fine points vary from couple to couple ... no single formula works for everyone ... but in our 45+ years of marriage, my wife and I have figured out there are some things we need to do on our own and some things we need to do together.  That way we stay engaged with each other without one suffocating the other.

[NewKnightDad]

Re: all this discussion of marriage, permission, etc.  Kahlil Gibran wrote words which I often used when performing a marriage ceremony:  "Let there be spaces in your togetherness."  The fine points vary from couple to couple ... no single formula works for everyone ... but in our 45+ years of marriage, my wife and I have figured out there are some things we need to do on our own and some things we need to do together.  That way we stay engaged with each other without one suffocating the other.

I could not agree more and it has worked well for us for almost 25 years also.

[Klompen]

I know Central's season is heading in the direction of the worst in 50 years, but really, is it off-season already?  All this marriage advice, did the season end early for everyone just because the Dutch hit the skids?   

AZD, now that I know you have been busy working, I realize what has happened to Central.  Your beautiful wife is letting your mom watch the games this year isn't she?  Man, she had to be have her eyes glued to the computer for the entire first period of Central's game at BV for it to have gone that bad! 

Do me a favor and use all those construction tools to disconnect the internet access before the rest of the Dutch games.

[Old Dutch]

I know Central's season is heading in the direction of the worst in 50 years, but really, is it off-season already?  All this marriage advice, did the season end early for everyone just because the Dutch hit the skids?   

AZD, now that I know you have been busy working, I realize what has happened to Central.  Your beautiful wife is letting your mom watch the games this year isn't she?  Man, she had to be have her eyes glued to the computer for the entire first period of Central's game at BV for it to have gone that bad! 

Do me a favor and use all those construction tools to disconnect the internet access before the rest of the Dutch games.

For one that game at BV really left me speechless.  Turned it on and it was already 23-0.  After extolling the virtues of Central College last week, I almost turned in my red colored shades!  Now we need 3  wins in 4 attempts to get to 5-5, would include a win over Wart or Coe, which seems a long shot.  However young teams make the most improvement over the course of a season so there may be hope.  Regardless, I'll be cheering for the Dutch.

Looks like a nice day, May head to Decorah to see for myself whats going on.  Thats the best part of being married to a football fan, they too understand when ya' just gotta get to a game!  She also helps run the remote during Saturday games, you know, like when I'm up getting us drinks.     Good luck Dutch, better find out how to have your A game at the opening kick! 

[Klompen]

Looks like the Dutch finally decided to bring the A game on O and D.  YOu have to get to more games OD,  Dutch up 14-0 early in first.

[Klompen]

Central brings their A game for all but the last play of the 1st qtr, leading 21-0, then switches to BV game fumbling the ball deep in Norse territory and very early in the 2nd, Luther takes is in.  21-7.  Then Dutch O goes backwards on nezt series.  Defense holds, but now Dutch starting deep in Norse territory at 4 yd line.  Please don't turn it over!

[Klompen]

Dutch win 31-14.  Coe, BV and WB all win as well