FB: American Rivers Conference

[DBQ1965]

Wow, the Central faithful have been on here in force since Saturday's game, must have been a big win.  Sounds like it was an interesting game like all of them have been lately between these two teams.

I to will be a Coe fan after next week, and I will certainly be there if they get a home game.

If Coe gets a home game, I think it might be enjoyable to have an IIAC tailgate in their honor.  Everyone could show up in their favorite team's gear, but cheer as a group in support of our IIAC representative in the playoff.

I would consider that as well ... depending on where the play-off game is.  Last year I was primed for a UD-Monmouth game (6 hour drive for me) but ended up with the blessing/curse of a game closer to Grand Rapids ... North Central in Naperville (3-1/2 hours).  Ouch!  Given the vagaries of the Selection Committee, if Coe should end up at North Central, Elmhurst or Wheaton, that is do-able for me.  Beyond that, we shall see.

[NewKnightDad]

Wow, the Central faithful have been on here in force since Saturday's game, must have been a big win.  Sounds like it was an interesting game like all of them have been lately between these two teams.

I to will be a Coe fan after next week, and I will certainly be there if they get a home game.

If Coe gets a home game, I think it might be enjoyable to have an IIAC tailgate in their honor.  Everyone could show up in their favorite team's gear, but cheer as a group in support of our IIAC representative in the playoff.

Count me in as well, and yes I would be wearing black & orange.  What better way to honor the IIAC champion than being on their sideline wearing rival colors cheering for their team. 

The back side of the Homeport would be a great place to hold this tailgate.

[Fannosaurus Rex]

Wow, the Central faithful have been on here in force since Saturday's game, must have been a big win.  Sounds like it was an interesting game like all of them have been lately between these two teams.

I to will be a Coe fan after next week, and I will certainly be there if they get a home game.

On that note, lets take a walk down memeory lane and remember some of the recent games between these two

2007: Central wins in Waverly on a pick as Wartburg was going in for the winning score in the last minute for the conference title (A questionable call: incomplete pass[spike] or fumble as Central takes the lead)
2008: Wartburg wins on a last min. FG at Centrals HC
2009: Central wins easily in waverly (the outlier)
2010: Wartburg wins in Pella to take the conference title by blocking a Central FG attempt in the last minute (A questionable call: was it a TD for warty or a fumble recovery for the dutch)
2011: Wartburg wins as the tying TD pass falls incomplete at the 1 yard line on the last play
2012: Central wins by stopping the Knights on a 4th & 2 a few yards out of the end zone after a TD was called back in the last minute

Don't quote me on any of the results, but that's how I remember them in my head...please correct any details that were wrong as it is likely there are some. What I do know for a fact is that there can't be any series between 2 teams the past 6-7 years any closer than this one...it always comes down to the last drive if not the last play...Amazing. This rivalry has everything you want: Good teams, titles on the line, fair/sportsman like play, controversy on both sides, drama, story lines, etc.

And if you are looking for close games between the Dutch and the Knights, didn't the 2006 game end 7-7 in regulation and Central won in OT?

[doolittledog]

Nov 17th we will be hosting a birthday party for our daughter.  If Coe gets a home game the next weekend, I could make it down to CR for that game. 

[Fannosaurus Rex]

You can only tell so much from watching a game on the frequently buffering streaming video, but from what I could see, that Central Wartburg game sure was ugly!  If it hadn't been for the first ten minutes, I never could have watched the next fifty minutes. Ya know how sometimes the losing side will say, "We made a bunch of mistakes and gave that game to ya."  And the winning side will say, "Our strategy is to force opponents to make mistakes."  Well in the Central Wartburg games, both sides made a lot of mistakes and if any of them were forced, I couldn't see it on video stream.  I'm glad Central came out on top of that one but if they don't fix a lot of things in the next four days, I have a bad feeling for their trip to Coe.  A team that is 9-0 probably actually does force some mistakes on top of all of the ones their opponents make on their own.  And 9-0 teams tend to be the ones that make you pay for it when you make a mistake.  I figure if Central plays for sixty minutes like they did for the first ten minutes against the Warts, they might have a chance in Cedar Rapids.  Otherwise, if Central is as sloppy as they were for about 80% of last Saturday's game, Coe might get a chance to run up the score in the hopes of a higher play-off seed.

[notlongago]

You can only tell so much from watching a game on the frequently buffering streaming video, but from what I could see, that Central Wartburg game sure was ugly!  If it hadn't been for the first ten minutes, I never could have watched the next fifty minutes. Ya know how sometimes the losing side will say, "We made a bunch of mistakes and gave that game to ya."  And the winning side will say, "Our strategy is to force opponents to make mistakes."  Well in the Central Wartburg games, both sides made a lot of mistakes and if any of them were forced, I couldn't see it on video stream.  I'm glad Central came out on top of that one but if they don't fix a lot of things in the next four days, I have a bad feeling for their trip to Coe.  A team that is 9-0 probably actually does force some mistakes on top of all of the ones their opponents make on their own.  And 9-0 teams tend to be the ones that make you pay for it when you make a mistake.  I figure if Central plays for sixty minutes like they did for the first ten minutes against the Warts, they might have a chance in Cedar Rapids.  Otherwise, if Central is as sloppy as they were for about 80% of last Saturday's game, Coe might get a chance to run up the score in the hopes of a higher play-off seed.

true story....however it will be interesting to see if there was any pressure from the streak, and perhaps with that off the table, they will be able to play free and surprise some people. As weird as it sounds, Central players have "more " to play for in the sense they know this will be their last game, same can't be said for coe players. Central also seems to somewhat have coes number lately, so lets see. I imagine Coe wins by 2 scores, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Central give em a game.

[Charlie Kohawk]

Just posting to show off my new signature, which I've happily updated three times this season. I've really enjoyed the mentality with which this year's Kohawk squad has gone about its business. Remember, this is three second place finishes and now a first for the senior class. I have no doubt they'll be primed for Central on senior day. And then, how nice it will be not to sweat out whether or not a playoff bid awaits. The only unknowns are who and where. Hopefully, the latter answer will be Cedar Rapids.

[Klompen]

With a week left in the season, I was forgetful to congratulate Coe on winning the IIAC football title. 

So congrats.  Now go off and make some noise in the D3 playoffs.  This Spartan fan will be cheering for you!!!

Yes, congratulations Coe.  Now go off and make some noise in the D3 playoffs and forget that you have one game remaining.    

Seriously, congratulations on your first outright championship.  Not that I want it to be a regular thing mind you.  That honor in my red shaded glasses still belongs to the Dutch.  Old habits and thoughts die hard.

[Klompen]

Wow, the Central faithful have been on here in force since Saturday's game, must have been a big win.  Sounds like it was an interesting game like all of them have been lately between these two teams.

It was a win by the skin of our teeth and I was ever so glad to see the clock tick down to zero as the momentum was all WB in the last 6 minutes of the game.  The Central faithful being on here in force since Saturday is about two things:  1) How much the non-losing season streak really means to all of us, and 2) AZD made it out to the game from Arizona and several of us got to visit with him.  Not that beating WB doesn't always feel good, but for awhile there when the two teams were trading fumbles it really didn't look much like either team wanted the win.  Wish it had been Central that picked up the momentum and ran with it as WB did.  Guess the Dutch thought it was all wrapped up with a 17 point lead and decided to shut it down and save their strength for Coe.   

[Klompen]

You can only tell so much from watching a game on the frequently buffering streaming video, but from what I could see, that Central Wartburg game sure was ugly!  If it hadn't been for the first ten minutes, I never could have watched the next fifty minutes. Ya know how sometimes the losing side will say, "We made a bunch of mistakes and gave that game to ya."  And the winning side will say, "Our strategy is to force opponents to make mistakes."  Well in the Central Wartburg games, both sides made a lot of mistakes and if any of them were forced, I couldn't see it on video stream.  I'm glad Central came out on top of that one but if they don't fix a lot of things in the next four days, I have a bad feeling for their trip to Coe.  A team that is 9-0 probably actually does force some mistakes on top of all of the ones their opponents make on their own.  And 9-0 teams tend to be the ones that make you pay for it when you make a mistake.  I figure if Central plays for sixty minutes like they did for the first ten minutes against the Warts, they might have a chance in Cedar Rapids.  Otherwise, if Central is as sloppy as they were for about 80% of last Saturday's game, Coe might get a chance to run up the score in the hopes of a higher play-off seed.

true story....however it will be interesting to see if there was any pressure from the streak, and perhaps with that off the table, they will be able to play free and surprise some people. As weird as it sounds, Central players have "more " to play for in the sense they know this will be their last game, same can't be said for coe players. Central also seems to somewhat have coes number lately, so lets see. I imagine Coe wins by 2 scores, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Central give em a game.

I see it as going one of two ways, extremely close or a total blow out, I will let you figure out who is blowing out who.     I do think it will help that Central has the streak pressure gone and completely agree that they have more to play for.  I wish I could see Coe taking us lightly, but since we beat them last year, that won't probably happen.  It would be nice to finish strong and give the guys something to work toward in the off season. 

[DutchFan2004]

I would say that the pressure from the streak was not visible until the final minutes of the game.  I thought the Dutch played well very well the first three drives.  How many times do you see a team score 21 points in a quarter and not have a punt, kick return or a turnover that produces points?  Not too many times do you have three offensive drives that produces points.  That was one of the best quarters of Dutch football I have seen in my 9 years of following the Dutch.  That said the fourth quarter was one of if not the worst I have seen.  Wartburg had a lot to do with the fourth quarter.  The Knight d could have folded the tent and gone home but fought hard to give them the chance to win at the end. 

[DutchFan2004]

Sorry this took so long congratulations to the Coe men.  You have had a great season.  I will be supporting and cheering you on and even may come to CR if you host a game.  As far as this weekend I am hoping for a Dutch win.  Good Luck after this weekend and may you go 5-1 over the next 6 weeks.

[NewKnightDad]

You can only tell so much from watching a game on the frequently buffering streaming video, but from what I could see, that Central Wartburg game sure was ugly!  If it hadn't been for the first ten minutes, I never could have watched the next fifty minutes. Ya know how sometimes the losing side will say, "We made a bunch of mistakes and gave that game to ya."  And the winning side will say, "Our strategy is to force opponents to make mistakes."  Well in the Central Wartburg games, both sides made a lot of mistakes and if any of them were forced, I couldn't see it on video stream.  I'm glad Central came out on top of that one but if they don't fix a lot of things in the next four days, I have a bad feeling for their trip to Coe.  A team that is 9-0 probably actually does force some mistakes on top of all of the ones their opponents make on their own.  And 9-0 teams tend to be the ones that make you pay for it when you make a mistake.  I figure if Central plays for sixty minutes like they did for the first ten minutes against the Warts, they might have a chance in Cedar Rapids.  Otherwise, if Central is as sloppy as they were for about 80% of last Saturday's game, Coe might get a chance to run up the score in the hopes of a higher play-off seed.

true story....however it will be interesting to see if there was any pressure from the streak, and perhaps with that off the table, they will be able to play free and surprise some people. As weird as it sounds, Central players have "more " to play for in the sense they know this will be their last game, same can't be said for coe players. Central also seems to somewhat have coes number lately, so lets see. I imagine Coe wins by 2 scores, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Central give em a game.

I see it as going one of two ways, extremely close or a total blow out, I will let you figure out who is blowing out who.     I do think it will help that Central has the streak pressure gone and completely agree that they have more to play for.  I wish I could see Coe taking us lightly, but since we beat them last year, that won't probably happen.  It would be nice to finish strong and give the guys something to work toward in the off season.

This was the same way I felt before the Wartburg vs Coe game.   

[Willie University]

As has been said, every team has their woulda coulda shoulda arguments.  My only point, there is a decent chance Dubuque will end in a 5 way tie for 2nd place in the the conference.  That's not exactly a "down" year.  If Dubuque can get a win at home over BVU and Coe beats Central, it's likely Wartburg and Simpson will get wins over Loras and Luther.  That would make a 5 way tie for 2nd place with each of the 5 teams losing to Coe and each of the 5 teams going 2-2 against each other.  Dubuque with a 3 point loss in Double OT to Coe (the only team to give Coe a scare)  a 7 point loss at Central and a 3 point loss at Wartburg with 4th quarter leads in all 3 games stacks up well against any other teams resume in the conference.  Not conference championship material, but I also wouldn't say Dubuque had a down year either. 

I would also like to add that UD getting a 45-0 win over Loras felt very very good

Given the number of years I have watched IIAC football, this was a very good season for UD.  Heck, it doesn't take too many wins to make a good season for UD over the period I have watched.  My only comment was that they were down compared to last year, but still a good UD season.  And I can imagine how great it was to beat Loras today.  Other teams have rivalries, but the rest of us have to travel to ours every other year.  In town rivalries are much more spirited and tend to mean a lot more.  Congrats to UD for their win today.

Your mentality is living in the past. You will never see those teams again. Like I was trying to point out, the Spartans were the only team to give Coe a game and 1 first down at the end and coe doesn't make it to overtime to sneak out the win. Likewise, a fluke at central and again, 1 first down at wartburg and game was over. I realize losses are losses but the spartans were much closer to competing for the conference with coe then central in my opinion. Now, if UD losses to BV, I'll eat those words.

Willie U

You seem to see everything in blue shades, so let me bring you back to reality. Dbq was a bad/average team the past decade. You had one anomaly year where you needed a once in a lifetime player, D3 heisman player to barely win the conference then subsequently embarrass the conference in the first round.

You are back to average again this year without him. Once is a fluke, 3-4 times is a patern that means you're average.

Stop belittling the other teams that beat Dbq because they made more plays when they needed to. What is so hard to comprehend about a conference that will likely have a 5-way tie for second that EVERY TEAM can point to plays that if they would've done something different, they may be leading the conference race. There is nothing that Dbq has or has done this year that would make any objective person think they are superior to any of the other 4-5 teams in the iiac. STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

Get a clue DUDE....What excuse did I make for anything? I basically stated my opinion that the Spartans are the best of the rest. That's my opinion and I'll stick with it regardless of yours. My opinion also is that unless Coe pulls a Bill Belicheick and sits their starters to save them for the playoffs  , Central is in for an a$$ whoopin on Saturday  Central has fallen to average over the past number of years. You need to realize that you can only bring back championship teams from the schipper days to so many home games each year. If you want that kind of added motivation, you need to start busing them to BV and other away games. The facilities are run down, good recruits are going to more IIAC schools then central, and you're in the middle of no where. The past is only going to take you so far.......start living in the present and future.

Now, if UD losses to a BV team that dominated the Dutch and Central beats Coe, I will EAT CROW. How about that....even ending with a ryhmne 

Willie U

[doolittledog]

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