FB: American Rivers Conference

[Bird Dog]

Notre Dame or Alabama/Georgia

I was pulling for USC Saturday.  It  is a crying shame when the Fainting Irish even get in a bowl game.  I love the addition of Rutgers and Maryland to the Big 14.  It may eliminate the freeloading Fainting Irish from playing teams in the Big Ten.  A pox on the and the Big East for letting Notre Dame freeload in the sports other than football.  Those sports should be independents.  At the very least the Irish should be paying a hefty sum to the Big East schools to play in the league.   

[Bird Dog]

Oh I forgot the question I want Alabama/Georgia to do some serious butt kicking so the Fainting Irish drop out of the top ten.  They don't even deserve to be rated 2.  Even though they are #2 in every other way.   

[DBQ1965]

Bird Dog ...

Your anti-Notre Dame tirade (all form and no substance) is worth losing some karma!

[Bird Dog]

What do you mean no substance.  Notre Dame's non football teams should be independent.  They play in the Big East, don't you think the cash strapped Big East could use some football revenue from playing Notre Dame.  Don't you think the dome should pay extra to support the Big East. 

Notre Dame would never join the Big East it isn't a big enough football conference.  I would like to see them in the SEC but Notre Dame wouldn't want to play there It would lose more games and not make as much money.

Greed almost killed the Big 12 because Texas was in the conference refusing to share revenue.  That's why Colorado, A&M and Missouri left to get an equitable conference split. 

"When the one great scorer comes to write against our name/He writes not that we won or lost/ But how we got gyped at Notre Dame." Forrest Evashevski 1953.

You can have whats left of my karma. When the super conferences all shake out I hope Notre Dame ends up in the Big East, WAC, or better yet Midwest Conference.

[Old Dutch]

I'll go with Norte dame for no other reason than to knock the SEC down a peg. After that I'm wagering in 12 -18 months the NCAA sherriff comes calling to West Bend.

[DBQ1965]

Kudos to 3 IIAC players picked for the 2012 D3 All Star Classic in Salem, Virginia, December 17.

Frank Weymiller, Coe
Nick Plueger, Buena Vista
Wyatt Hanus, Dubuque

[doolittledog]

To add to the Notre Dame discussion, while their opponants want to beat them, their main focus is to win their conference championship.  Once an independent joins a conference they find it harder to win on a consistent basis...(Penn St).  Not only does Notre Dame make more money as a football independent, they would also find it harder to be competitive on a constitant basis with their football team in a conference.  For me personally, I would like to see Notre Dame either independent in all sports, or in a conference for all sports.  And if Notre Dame chooses to be independent I don't want them getting BCS money on years they don't make the BCS and all the other concessions they get from the BCS that other independents don't get.       

For older Iowans, the Fainting Irish is more in our memories than for others around the nation.  For a team in the 1950's that put out the image as good catholic boys that took time away from their books and church to play a little football, they sure had some curious morals when it came to winning back in the day.  I will add, this was drilled into me at an early age by a dad that had played in the Hawkeye marching band in the 1950's and had seen this 1st hand...but maybe he had a bit of bias on his side as well that corrupted the story just a tad   He had even stronger feelings against Michigan as their marching band once went over their alloted time on national television and jipped his Iowa marching band out of playing on national TV.  He eventually, after many decades, was able to root for Michigan to win in a bowl game because he wanted the Big Ten to do well on the national stage...but it was still hard for him

[NewKnightDad]

Anybody but Alabama or Notre Dame so I guess it is go Georgia!!!!   

[CaliRamRL6]

Alabama!!! If they get past Georgia, I find it hard to believe that Notre Dame stands a chance when you give Nick Saban a month to prepare for the game.

[wartknight]

Anybody but Alabama or Notre Dame so I guess it is go Georgia!!!!   

This will be a very difficult game to get excited about. Is there a way both ND & the SEC can lose? I guess the Dogs in the game would be better than the Tide. I have seen a number of comments (FL - fans) indicating the Gators should be in instead of ND. Too much love for the SEC!

[5 Words or Less]

Mike Durnin resigns at Luther

http://iowaconference.com/news/2012/11/27/FB_1127122421.aspx

[doolittledog]

Mike Durnin resigns at Luther

http://iowaconference.com/news/2012/11/27/FB_1127122421.aspx

This should help drive the conversation on here for awhile. 

Any ideas where Luther goes from here???

[Phred]

Mike Durnin resigns at Luther

http://iowaconference.com/news/2012/11/27/FB_1127122421.aspx

This is a bit of a surprise to me.  I thought he would have  1 or 2 more years to turn Luther around.  He 's a good coach I understand but had difficulty recruiting.  Some feel Luther's
Administration needs to get more on board but this is also the Luther President' last academic year.  A new page is about to be turned for Norse I hear.

[5 Words or Less]

Coach Durnin knew his X's and O's and elevated the program by giving the assistant coaches clear direction and improved the programs use of technology.  He is a good man and he will do well in his future endeavors.

I can't help but think that if the non-conference schedule been more balanced, that Luther's winning percentage would have been similar to previous years.  Luther was licked 3 times by ranked teams before conference opener against Loras.  If the Norse had gone into the Loras game 3-0, the play of the team would've been at a whole 'nother level and Coach Durnin would still be at the helm.

Rule #1 Schedule equal or lesser non-cons before eating breakfast!

Sincerely yours,
5 Words or More

[warthog]

I'm sure a national search will turn up a quality coach.  On the other hand, I think the Norse could get a decent coach by looking across the field to the sidelines of some IIAC conference schools.  There are some good, young, eager assistants in this league that could make the Norse a winner.

President Torgerson (Coach Torgerson as Wartburg fans remember him) will try to make one of his last hires, one of his best hires.