FB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

I only post this because the blurry blue and black thing in the background seems to me be evidence that Pella has been visited by aliens.

2 things...

1 - That is Boerm playing QB

2 - Dubuque or Luther spy???

[Willie University]

I only post this because the blurry blue and black thing in the background seems to me be evidence that Pella has been visited by aliens.

Now that was funny 

[notlongago]

Got a tour of the Central campus a few days back (been awhile since ive been back, and stopped off while passing through the state). I saw that nearly all speed and agility strength and conditioning records have been broken this spring. Knowing of the speedsters that have donned the red in Coach McMartin's tenure, and knowing those have records have fallen is encouraging. Hopefully that speed translates to the field this fall...surely cant hurt.

Yes, that is encouraging depending on what the records were  and how many were broken by the same few guys  I am not quite sure you can bank on increased success solely because a few guys broke some records when no players from other schools were allowed to compete against them. But, for intrasquad scrimmages, it means a lot.

The records were typical combine tests: 40,10, pro agility, vert, etc. They broke the previous gym record from all other central athletes in the past 10-15 years. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything, but to say its only helpful in scrimmages is asinine.

[Willie University]

Got a tour of the Central campus a few days back (been awhile since ive been back, and stopped off while passing through the state). I saw that nearly all speed and agility strength and conditioning records have been broken this spring. Knowing of the speedsters that have donned the red in Coach McMartin's tenure, and knowing those have records have fallen is encouraging. Hopefully that speed translates to the field this fall...surely cant hurt.

Yes, that is encouraging depending on what the records were  and how many were broken by the same few guys  I am not quite sure you can bank on increased success solely because a few guys broke some records when no players from other schools were allowed to compete against them. But, for intrasquad scrimmages, it means a lot.

The records were typical combine tests: 40,10, pro agility, vert, etc. They broke the previous gym record from all other central athletes in the past 10-15 years. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything, but to say its only helpful in scrimmages is asinine.

Let me simpilfy for you.

1.) No one but central players were allowed to compete in those tests
2.) You didn't say if ONE player broke all of them or each test was broken by a different player.
1 + 2= practices and intrasquad scrimmages should be improved by those one or few players that broke the records but how does that equal increased success outside of the central bubble??

You could take a quick road trip down to simpson and I am sure you could find a few guys to compete for the records as well.

Do I agree that it's great for you and them....sure. Do I think it translates into a more successful football season? Not necessarilly because it's a few guys and I assume there are over a hundred in camp.

[notlongago]

Got a tour of the Central campus a few days back (been awhile since ive been back, and stopped off while passing through the state). I saw that nearly all speed and agility strength and conditioning records have been broken this spring. Knowing of the speedsters that have donned the red in Coach McMartin's tenure, and knowing those have records have fallen is encouraging. Hopefully that speed translates to the field this fall...surely cant hurt.

Yes, that is encouraging depending on what the records were  and how many were broken by the same few guys  I am not quite sure you can bank on increased success solely because a few guys broke some records when no players from other schools were allowed to compete against them. But, for intrasquad scrimmages, it means a lot.

The records were typical combine tests: 40,10, pro agility, vert, etc. They broke the previous gym record from all other central athletes in the past 10-15 years. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything, but to say its only helpful in scrimmages is asinine.

Let me simpilfy for you.

1.) No one but central players were allowed to compete in those tests
2.) You didn't say if ONE player broke all of them or each test was broken by a different player.
1 + 2= practices and intrasquad scrimmages should be improved by those one or few players that broke the records but how does that equal increased success outside of the central bubble??

You could take a quick road trip down to simpson and I am sure you could find a few guys to compete for the records as well.

Do I agree that it's great for you and them....sure. Do I think it translates into a more successful football season? Not necessarilly because it's a few guys and I assume there are over a hundred in camp.

They place out the top 5 and it looked like there were 6-8 new guys on the record boards breaking nearly all the records...I didn't count specifically but it's considerably more than 1 or 2 guys.

Again, that doesn't guarantee anything, but it is a definite positive and something that hasn't happened at central in the past 10-15 years (not sure when they started tracking those numbers)

[Floyd in Iowa City]

Loras/Luther are 2 more schools that could be considered interchangable.  Loras has to travel to Luther...but the Norse only return 1 on the O-line and no QB's or RB's and are changing to a triple-option offense.  It will be interesting to see how those 2 schools progress throughout the year.

Is that the truth? hmm....that will be....interesting.

AEN linked to this article earlier today...http://wcfcourier.com/sports/college/new-luther-fb-coach-has-options-at-quarterback/article_e353427c-0a02-11e3-b4d0-0019bb2963f4.html

Once a coach gets his type of players into the system, the option can cause problems for other teams because they aren't used to practicing against that offense.  I just don't think Hafner has enough of his players in place yet at Luther.  Plus, if you have a diciplined defense, they can render the option impotent, and those offenses rarely have the ability to throw the ball at all once their run game has been shut down.  We shall see, he had fairly good success at William Penn...pretty much the only success that school has ever had on the gridiron.

Didn't cornell run a similar type offense a while back??? I know they were able to score at times but I don't think it helped them much in the win column?? And Hafner may have trouble getting the kind of kids he was able to get to billie penn. No scholarships will make it hard compared to being practically free to attend billie penn. Not to mention how many of the kids on billie penns roster fit into Luther's academic profile 

Very valid questions Willie.   The option stuff did not look great to me when Luther was running it in the mid-1990s as the defense was more fun to watch.  I did not see either of the Billy Penn games, but my understanding was that the amount of athletes they had was impressive.

Cornell was dangerous at times when they had a few good athletes at QB (like around 2000-01?) and a couple other places.

Georgia Tech and Navy have been fun to watch in recent seasons, so lots of stuff works with the right coaching and players.

[Fannosaurus Rex]

Anyway you cut it, I would rather have the records getting better rather than not getting better.  Besides, some times one guy can make a big difference.

[doolittledog]

Simpson preview...http://www.simpsonathletics.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130822a89x24

[Willie University]

Got a tour of the Central campus a few days back (been awhile since ive been back, and stopped off while passing through the state). I saw that nearly all speed and agility strength and conditioning records have been broken this spring. Knowing of the speedsters that have donned the red in Coach McMartin's tenure, and knowing those have records have fallen is encouraging. Hopefully that speed translates to the field this fall...surely cant hurt.

Yes, that is encouraging depending on what the records were  and how many were broken by the same few guys  I am not quite sure you can bank on increased success solely because a few guys broke some records when no players from other schools were allowed to compete against them. But, for intrasquad scrimmages, it means a lot.

The records were typical combine tests: 40,10, pro agility, vert, etc. They broke the previous gym record from all other central athletes in the past 10-15 years. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything, but to say its only helpful in scrimmages is asinine.

Let me simpilfy for you.

1.) No one but central players were allowed to compete in those tests
2.) You didn't say if ONE player broke all of them or each test was broken by a different player.
1 + 2= practices and intrasquad scrimmages should be improved by those one or few players that broke the records but how does that equal increased success outside of the central bubble??

You could take a quick road trip down to simpson and I am sure you could find a few guys to compete for the records as well.

Do I agree that it's great for you and them....sure. Do I think it translates into a more successful football season? Not necessarilly because it's a few guys and I assume there are over a hundred in camp.

They place out the top 5 and it looked like there were 6-8 new guys on the record boards breaking nearly all the records...I didn't count specifically but it's considerably more than 1 or 2 guys.

Again, that doesn't guarantee anything, but it is a definite positive and something that hasn't happened at central in the past 10-15 years (not sure when they started tracking those numbers)

Yes, I would agree with you it is definitely a positive especially if the records were broken by that many different players.

[doolittledog]

Cornell leaves the IIAC and then they spend money on their football program.  Here are their new helmets and field turf...



 

[notlongago]

Cornell leaves the IIAC and then they spend money on their football program.  Here are their new helmets and field turf...



 

The can come back now haha. Several wins last year (not just because of the conference change), and now they'd fit in with all new uniform/turf updates.

[notlongago]

The Simpson player in that preview looks BA. Then central Facebook group said an "exciting announcement" coming tomorrow. Hopefully pics of these new unis I've been hearing about.

[Kohawk Krazy]

Cornell leaves the IIAC and then they spend money on their football program.  Here are their new helmets and field turf...



 

I like the helmets on their own, but I think it looks pretty ugly with the rest of their uniforms.

[Willie University]

Cornell leaves the IIAC and then they spend money on their football program.  Here are their new helmets and field turf...



 

I like the helmets on their own, but I think it looks pretty ugly with the rest of their uniforms.

Yeah, it would be nice to see a picture of the entire uniform. The helmets would look sweet if they flow with the rest of the uni......... Coach B loved black and incorporated that into the UD uniforms while here and has turned cornells white and purple into black with purple and I am sure white will be somewhere (since I haven't seen the rest of the uni)

[Fannosaurus Rex]

This is the weekend of the Travers Stakes at Saratoga which is traditionally the Saturday Central has a pre-season intra-squad scrimmage.  Anyone know if that is happening tomorrow, the scrimmage that is?  I look forward to someone posting a scouting report.