FB: American Rivers Conference

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Venatus die! Conquer Sancti Thomas.

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Coldhawks snowed by Tommies, 42-0 halftime

[coocooforcoekohawk]

Hey Coe...

Surely, you can't be serious.

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Fine season Kohawks, congratulations

[doolittledog]

Fine season Kohawks, congratulations

I second that.  Great turn around and with a 1st year HC.  Well done!

[doolittledog]

Hey Coe...

Surely, you can't be serious.

[doolittledog]

With Coe getting eliminated from the playoffs today. 

The IIAC senior classes stacked up thus...
Wartburg 24-5  2 titles
Dubuque  20-9  1 title
Central....20-9
Coe........19-10  1 title
BVU.......11-18
Simpson 10-19
Luther.....7-22
Loras......6-23
NWU.......3-5

The junior classes have 1 more year to leave their mark...
Wartburg 18-4  1 title
Dubuque..16-6  1 title
Central.....16-6
Coe..........15-7  1 title
BVU..........7-15
Loras........6-16
Luther.......6-16
Simpson....5-17
NWU.........3-5

BVU
2013 : 4-3
2014 : 4-3
2015 : 0-7
2016 : 3-5

Central
2013 : 4-3
2014 : 6-1
2015 : 4-3
2016 : 6-2

Coe
2013 : 4-3
2014 : 4-3
2015 : 3-4
2016 : 8-0

Dubuque
2013 : 4-3
2014 : 3-4
2015 : 7-0
2016 : 6-2

Loras
2013 : 0-7
2014 : 2-5
2015 : 3-4
2016 : 1-7

Luther
2013 : 1-6
2014 : 2-5
2015 : 2-5
2016 : 2-6

NWU
2013 : ---
2014 : ---
2015 : ---
2016 : 3-5

Simpson
2013 : 5-2
2014 : 0-7
2015 : 3-4
2016 : 2-6

Wartburg
2013 : 6-1
2014 : 7-0
2015 : 6-1
2016 : 5-3

[doolittledog]

Any news on the coaching search at BVU?

An NAIA friend noted the DC at Morningside, Casey Jacobsen is a BVU grad.  3 year letter winner for the Beavers, coached 2 years at BVU before moving to Morningside. 

Any coaching news for any of the other schools?

Facilities upgrades?

Transfers in...transfers out?

[Phred]

Doolittle.....Coe did not just get eleminated ......they embarrassed the IIAC.  On the other hand, the IIAC is a mediocre football conference so we can,t expect more.

[DBQ1965]

Doolittle.....Coe did not just get eleminated ......they embarrassed the IIAC.  On the other hand, the IIAC is a mediocre football conference so we can,t expect more.

I'm afraid you are correct.

[HansenRatings]

I'm afraid you're all overreacting to one game. My model has the IIAC as the 4th best conference in the Midwest, behind the WIAC, CCIW, and MIAC. They're also ranked the 4th best conference in the COUNTRY. Our views of the IIAC on the national scale may be skewed merely because IIAC teams are middle-of-the-road in their own region. Just have to remember that it's a damn good region. The only team to get past the "Midwest Region Champ" (UWW/UWO/UST) in the playoffs over the last decade has been Mount Union.

[doolittledog]

Mr. Hansen talked me off the ledge



There is still some fine football played in the IIAC.  The top echelon of teams in our region just have a nice sized gap on the others right now that didn't exist in the past.  But, the answer is to go out and recruit top talent, and work, work, work!

[doolittledog]

If anyone comes across some good gossip, please share on here.

Or...if they come across some good video of their favorite team, please share on here.

Dubuque defensive highlights...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrtefDKwakY

Dubuque offensive highlights...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWG79Upsi8

[hazzben]

I'm afraid you're all overreacting to one game. My model has the IIAC as the 4th best conference in the Midwest, behind the WIAC, CCIW, and MIAC. They're also ranked the 4th best conference in the COUNTRY. Our views of the IIAC on the national scale may be skewed merely because IIAC teams are middle-of-the-road in their own region. Just have to remember that it's a damn good region. The only team to get past the "Midwest Region Champ" (UWW/UWO/UST/Bethel) in the playoffs over the last decade has been Mount Union.

Fixed it for ya!  (I need to live in the past after this season  )

Agree on the assessment though. If the IIAC was out East they'd be a force, IMO. And in the North I'd slot them right behind CCIW & OAC and before NCAC. The fact that they've got 4 teams (Wart, Coe, UD, & Central) who have been a threat and won the league over the last decade speaks to parity and decent depth. Wartburg has had some outstanding teams that were definitely Top 5ish in quality.

Bottom line, the West/Midwest is just a brutal grinder. Throw in Linfield and the proximity to the CCIW and the number of times the IIAC is going to get a brutal draw in the first two rounds skews the quality of the conference.

I think one thing that hurts the IIAC is the perception of BVU in Western Iowa. In terms of football, for recruits they're an afterthought. Which means the rest of the IIAC can tend to be as well, for any HS senior who isn't well informed about small college football (which is sadly, probably most of them). There are a lot of really good HS teams/players in Western Iowa (e.g. Heelan, Spirit Lake, Storm Lake, SBL, Western, W. Lyon, C. Lyon, BHRV, etc.), but I just don't see the IIAC recruiting them hard. Bethel has landed some outstanding players from that area, but it was almost never down to us vs. an IIAC school. We were usually going up against a GPAC or a NSIC team. That seems like an untapped resource for some IIAC schools.

[HansenRatings]

I'm afraid you're all overreacting to one game. My model has the IIAC as the 4th best conference in the Midwest, behind the WIAC, CCIW, and MIAC. They're also ranked the 4th best conference in the COUNTRY. Our views of the IIAC on the national scale may be skewed merely because IIAC teams are middle-of-the-road in their own region. Just have to remember that it's a damn good region. The only team to get past the "Midwest Region Champ" (UWW/UWO/UST/Bethel) in the playoffs over the last decade has been Mount Union.

Fixed it for ya!  (I need to live in the past after this season  )

Agree on the assessment though. If the IIAC was out East they'd be a force, IMO. And in the North I'd slot them right behind CCIW & OAC and before NCAC. The fact that they've got 4 teams (Wart, Coe, UD, & Central) who have been a threat and won the league over the last decade speaks to parity and decent depth. Wartburg has had some outstanding teams that were definitely Top 5ish in quality.

Bottom line, the West/Midwest is just a brutal grinder. Throw in Linfield and the proximity to the CCIW and the number of times the IIAC is going to get a brutal draw in the first two rounds skews the quality of the conference.

I think one thing that hurts the IIAC is the perception of BVU in Western Iowa. In terms of football, for recruits they're an afterthought. Which means the rest of the IIAC can tend to be as well, for any HS senior who isn't well informed about small college football (which is sadly, probably most of them). There are a lot of really good HS teams/players in Western Iowa (e.g. Heelan, Spirit Lake, Storm Lake, SBL, Western, W. Lyon, C. Lyon, BHRV, etc.), but I just don't see the IIAC recruiting them hard. Bethel has landed some outstanding players from that area, but it was almost never down to us vs. an IIAC school. We were usually going up against a GPAC or a NSIC team. That seems like an untapped resource for some IIAC schools.

Good point about BVU. I tend to agree. I interviewed there before I took my engineering job, and when I looked at their roster before the interview, I noticed they got most of their players from East of I-35, as does the rest of the conference. I thought that Omaha/Sioux City was a bit of an untapped market for BVU individually (they only had one player from Omaha, 2.5 hours away), and if they could consistently field teams on the level of those NAIA schools, it would probably help the perception of the conference in Western Iowa.