FB: American Rivers Conference

[Schipper Strong]

Wow - there goes my pick-ems lead. Never thought I would be thankful for Wartburg winning! 

[Outside the Crate]

Luther's football program had some interesting things to say.  First, it listed their enrollment as 1950, quite a dip from their usual enrollment of 2,600 stretching over several years.  Also, the roster only numbers 78 players with 14 from Iowa.  They list the geographical background of their team members -- something I've never seen before.  Players come from 14 states, but only 11 from MN, 7 from WI, and 4 from Illinois -- Luther's traditionally strong sources of students.  Twelve come from CA, 11 from CO, and 7 from FL.

Would it be impolite of me to mention that Wartburg is ranked 20th this week?

[doolittledog]

Luther's football program had some interesting things to say.  First, it listed their enrollment as 1950, quite a dip from their usual enrollment of 2,600 stretching over several years.  Also, the roster only numbers 78 players with 14 from Iowa.  They list the geographical background of their team members -- something I've never seen before.  Players come from 14 states, but only 11 from MN, 7 from WI, and 4 from Illinois -- Luther's traditionally strong sources of students.  Twelve come from CA, 11 from CO, and 7 from FL.

Would it be impolite of me to mention that Wartburg is ranked 20th this week?

Stan Zweifel ranked Wartburg #7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTNwtSGE5OU&t=514s

[formerd3db]

Luther's football program had some interesting things to say.  First, it listed their enrollment as 1950, quite a dip from their usual enrollment of 2,600 stretching over several years.  Also, the roster only numbers 78 players with 14 from Iowa.  They list the geographical background of their team members -- something I've never seen before.  Players come from 14 states, but only 11 from MN, 7 from WI, and 4 from Illinois -- Luther's traditionally strong sources of students.  Twelve come from CA, 11 from CO, and 7 from FL.

Would it be impolite of me to mention that Wartburg is ranked 20th this week?

Just out of curiosity, do you know any reasons for why Luther has lost enrollment?  I remember their HC Padilla was at Albion College as DC from 2010-2012 before going to DII Notre Dame College in Ohio, prior to his coming to Luther in 2015.

[doolittledog]

Luther's football program had some interesting things to say.  First, it listed their enrollment as 1950, quite a dip from their usual enrollment of 2,600 stretching over several years.  Also, the roster only numbers 78 players with 14 from Iowa.  They list the geographical background of their team members -- something I've never seen before.  Players come from 14 states, but only 11 from MN, 7 from WI, and 4 from Illinois -- Luther's traditionally strong sources of students.  Twelve come from CA, 11 from CO, and 7 from FL.

Would it be impolite of me to mention that Wartburg is ranked 20th this week?

Just out of curiosity, do you know any reasons for why Luther has lost enrollment?  I remember their HC Padilla was at Albion College as DC from 2010-2012 before going to DII Notre Dame College in Ohio, prior to his coming to Luther in 2015.

A declining pool of college age kids in the immediate market area and cost of state schools vs. private schools would be the main culprits. 

http://publications.iowa.gov/29861/1/Iowa_College_and_University_Enrollment_Report_Fall%202018.pdf
https://www.iowacollegeaid.gov/sites/default/files/2017_Final_Fall_Enroll_Report11032017%20%282%29.pdf
https://www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms/icchpse2015enrollmentreport-pdfEF69B103.pdf
https://www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms/iccphse2013enrollment-pdfB2402175.pdf
https://www.luther.edu/ir/assets/Iowa_College_and_University_Enrollment_Report__Fall_2012.pdf
https://www.luther.edu/ir/assets/Iowa_Enrollment_Report_2011.pdf

Those figures include off campus centers and graduate schools.
Small, but steady declines for most schools over the past decade.

BVU
2011 - 2,706 (1,153 on-campus)
2012 - 2,555
2013 - 2,416
2014 - 2,399
2015 - 2,295
2016 - 2,114
2017 - 1,982
2018 - 1,847 (733 on-campus)

Central
2011 - 1,604
2012 - 1,486
2013 - 1,386
2014 - 1,411
2015 - 1,274
2016 - 1,248
2017 - 1,237
2018 - 1,117

Coe
2011 - 1,366
2012 - 1,367
2013 - 1,420
2014 - 1,436
2015 - 1,416
2016 - 1,409
2017 - 1,394
2018 - 1,422

Dubuque
2011 - 2,003
2012 - 2,013
2013 - 2,024
2014 - 2,118
2015 - 2,179
2016 - no data
2017 - 2,385
2018 - 2,413 (I believe it's 1,965 undergrads, with 264 at off-campus centers in Cedar Rapids & Arizona)

Loras
2011 - 1,558
2012 - 1,537
2013 - 1,621
2014 - 1,569
2015 - 1,528
2016 - 1,524
2017 - 1,467
2018 - 1,489

Luther
2011 - 2,471
2012 - 2,473
2013 - 2,466
2014 - 2,385
2015 - 2,337
2016 - 2,169
2017 - 2,053
2018 - 2,005

Simpson
2011 - 1,866
2012 - 1,897
2013 - 1,773
2014 - 1,725
2015 - 1,690
2016 - 1,608
2017 - 1,479
2018 - 1,444

Wartburg
2011 - 1,805
2012 - 1,747
2013 - 1,714
2014 - 1,661
2015 - 1,537
2016 - 1,482
2017 - 1,527
2018 - 1,498

[5 Words or Less]

Luther's football program had some interesting things to say.  First, it listed their enrollment as 1950, quite a dip from their usual enrollment of 2,600 stretching over several years.  Also, the roster only numbers 78 players with 14 from Iowa.  They list the geographical background of their team members -- something I've never seen before.  Players come from 14 states, but only 11 from MN, 7 from WI, and 4 from Illinois -- Luther's traditionally strong sources of students.  Twelve come from CA, 11 from CO, and 7 from FL.

Would it be impolite of me to mention that Wartburg is ranked 20th this week?

keep onna puffin'

[Outside the Crate]

While most ARC colleges have lost enrollment, it's true of state universities, too.  I think UNI is down 700 this year alone.

As for the reasons, I could make a lot of money if I could prove it...  Demographics are involved, but I think are over-estimated for their effect.  The decline in HS graduates is not as great as the enrollment decline.  I think all the public media attention to loans and college costs is a major culprit.  Community college enrollments are up, so that would seem to indicate that costs are a factor despite the fact that the average student in private colleges nationwise is paying no more than 15 years ago!

Other things to consider.  One can no longer tell how a college is doing by its enrollment.  One has to know what its net tuition revenue is.  Some colleges are spending wildly on institution-funded financial aid.  It takes some tough decisions to keep things in balance.  For example, I know that Wartburg's decline has been well-managed, and they have balanced their budget every year by making strategic decisions that were often difficult.  The other thing is that some show higher enrollments because of graduate students or off-campus centers, so sometimes one is comparing apples and oranges.

[doolittledog]

Good post Outside the Crate.  I was responding to your post on the enrollment at Luther and had found data for all the schools.  I like your thoughts in the 3rd paragraph.  I read an article recently about Simpson.  They noted they had a budget situation and not a financial crisis.  They had a strong endowment and needed to restructure their budget or the realities of a smaller enrollment. 

Things to consider in the financial health of a school. 
Endowment size.
Typical annual giving levels.
Institutional debt levels.
Typical tuition discount rates/net tuition revenue.

Now football related news.  If you see a short/fat guy in Dubuque colors with his junior in high school daughter on Saturday...say hello to us.  So far with my daughter and I in attendance in Waverly I believe UD is 0-4.  But we keep believing THIS will be the year things change 

[formerd3db]

Thanks, guys, for the information and your opinions/input on the he enrollment issue.

[Outside the Crate]

Now football related news.  If you see a short/fat guy in Dubuque colors with his junior in high school daughter on Saturday...say hello to us.  So far with my daughter and I in attendance in Waverly I believe UD is 0-4.  But we keep believing THIS will be the year things change 

So, Doolittledog, if you see a tall fat guy wearing some orange...say "hi!"  Needless to say, I hope your "track record" is maintained!

[Schipper Strong]

If you see a more than slender woman in red tell her she's in the wrong place!

[hazzben]

If you see a more than slender woman in red tell her she's in the wrong place!

Ha! That was funny 

[Schipper Strong]

Humor is good when you leave your youth behind.

[Schipper Strong]

Dutch win 52 - 33. Central starters took a bench early in the 3rd quarter. Loras and team better than Central 2nd team today. That will change with time. Loras had some good players and they were regularly ahead of our defenders on passing plays, good thing they didn't have a Hawkins at QB. They had enough to think they could surprise some teams of they come to play.  Really nice punting from Central's freshman McCaulay.

So did Wartburg start their second string today or did the first string run back to their rooms to pick up their game at the half?

[Outside the Crate]

Wartburg was down 17-0 after the first quarter.  It was not pretty.  But, toward the end of the half Wartburg scored twice in about two minutes to bring the score to 14-17.  In the end, 35 unanswered points by the Knights won the game.  It was like another team was representing Wartburg in the second half.  I should mention that the Knights changed quarterbacks -- Jace Moore, who has been sharing the duties with Noah Dodd, took over in the second and finished out the game.  Dwayne Allen Jr., the top Dubuque running back went out with an injury late in the first, but Kordell Stillmunkes was impressive.