FB: American Rivers Conference

[Walston Hoover]

Anyone have any updates on all the injured guys from UD last week?

[dbljay21]

DutchFan2004, I like Coe in this spot. Dubuque had some big plans for this season, and might come out a little flat, after getting throttled in the 2nd half last week. The Coe team appears to have closed  ranks, and you can bet they're playing with a little chip on their shoulders. Kind of the " Us against the world type." Bet its been a couple intense weeks of practice, in Kohawk land, with their up coming schedule. Dubuque-Central-Evil Empire. You have to win the 1st one first.

Dubuque could come out like gang-busters though...they have something to prove just like Coe, and after the  2nd half beatdown they sustained against Wartburg they should be fired up and ready to go.  This is going to be a great game.  Coe has Homecoming and will be fired up, and the "us against the world" attitude seems to fit Coe this year as everyone seems to be talking about Wartburg and Central.  I am sure that Raeburn will have his squad fired up.  Wish I could be in CR this weekend...It will be a great game 

[Walston Hoover]

SPeaking of Central and Wartburg-Both in the AFCA top 10 this week. Central at 7 and the Knights at 10.

[dbljay21]

Congrats to the Dutch and the Knights...nice to see the IIAC represented with 2 top 10 teams.  I hope we can get two teams in the playoffs this year, that always says something about your conference

[doolittledog]

Anyone have any updates on all the injured guys from UD last week?

The only thing I have been able to find was from monday the UD site said that senior linebacker Chavis Youngblood was taken to the hospital and had regained feeling in his extremities. 

As far as this weekend's game I think Coe will be fired up with homecoming and two weeks of practice.  Take that with the chip on their shoulders with everyone talking about Central/Wartburg being the class of the conference.  Add in Dubuque took some injuries last week against Wartburg and I think you get a Coe win in Cedar Rapids this weekend.

If the weather saturday is as nice as it is today I will be down their with our son and my dad.  Hopefully this weather stays. 

[DutchFan2004]

Doolittle,

Is this the first game for your son?  I hope you have a good time.  Having Grandpa there to help with the little one should help you enjoy the game as well.  Hope it works out for you and the little one. 

[doolittledog]

Yes, this will be the first one, if the weather cooperates.  And my wife still isn't completely sold on the idea but has pretty much just given up. 

[dbljay21]

Yes, this will be the first one, if the weather cooperates.  And my wife still isn't completely sold on the idea but has pretty much just given up. 

And the winner, by submission, is doolittle dog... enjoy the game 

[Walston Hoover]

My wife has found that as long as she has plenty of Kix along and there is good music played, The easier it is to control a 19 month old at a football game. We will try our third Wartburg game with her in 2 weeks at Homecoming, but we've got through 3 ISU games, and 3 double header nights of HS football games. Saturday's weather is supposed to be nice and warm. Its nice to have a daughter that likes football, as long as she doesn't like football players 

[oldNorse]

Floyd,  You mentioned yesterday that Luther had white helmets since the 40's.  Truth is the helmets were gold with a blue "norse" logo on each side until  the early 60's.  Also, all home games in the IIAC were in white jerseys and the other team color for away games.

[Floyd in Iowa City]

Cornell O in the 1st half was MIA...I thought the Rams kinda went away from their strength.

Luther's D had something to do with it...but not all of it.  Didn't take what the D was giving until after half.

2nd Half Cornell stayed with the basics and ran right and and eventually through Luther's D

Sherden ran for 98 and was out, reportedly, with migraines for the 2nd half.

Credit to Luther's O-line and Pease the kicker.

Quoting Denny Green:  They were exactly who we thought they were...

Tale of two halves:
Luther 13-0 in the first half
Cornell scores 20-12 in the second half

Disappointed but undaunted.

Purple, you don't moonlight as the Cornell Head Coach or SID do you?    The game on Saturday actually reminded me a little of the Luther-Cornell game in Mount Vernon from 2005 in which the Norse were actually way ahead and barely held on to win 29-23.  I remember that day clearly since Iowa blew the game late against Northwestern in Evanston.

From the Cornell Football News Release:

"It's frustrating to play that well offensively in the second half and play that poorly in the first half," said second-year head coach Matt Dillon, whose team committed three first-half turnovers. "We dominated offensively in the second half, but we dug ourselves too big of a hole. We came out sluggish. Part of it was the (bye week) layoff, but that falls on my shoulders to get the kids ready to play."

The Rams offense appeared ready to play after facing a 16-0 deficit midway through the third quarter. Senior quarterback Anthony Kobler tossed two touchdown passes – a 4-yarder to tight end Alex Macey ( Oceanside, Calif./ Vista) and a 32-yard strike to Kyle Krogmann (DeWitt/Northeast) – and Travion Hardman scored on a 1-yard run for all of the Rams' points in the final 21 minutes of the game.

Cornell was held to 250 total yards of offense, 223 below its season average heading into the game. Kobler completed 9-of-22 passes for 114 yards and two touchdowns with a pair of interceptions. Hardman rushed for 86 yards on 15 carries (5.7 ypc).

Good luck to both the Beavers and Rams on Saturday as that will be a huge game for both programs.  The good news for B.V. is that if they lose they still get the Norse the next week.  There are lots of kids in elementary school that are not old enough to have been alive when Luther last beat B.V.

[Floyd in Iowa City]

Floyd,  You mentioned yesterday that Luther had white helmets since the 40's.  Truth is the helmets were gold with a blue "norse" logo on each side until  the early 60's.  Also, all home games in the IIAC were in white jerseys and the other team color for away games.

Really?  Wow!  I have only seen the old black and white photos from various years.  There are many photos from yearbooks or old programs that I have seen from the mid to late 1950s, and there are a couple of RB Brad Hustad in 1957 that the helmet could pass as gold rather than white.  Ditto for some of the helmets in a team photo from 1938.  I am looking at some photos right now of Luther playing Wartburg (the Knights appear in black helmets, orange jerseys, and black pants) in 1958 where the Norse helmets appear just as white as the pants and jerseys that they are wearing.  All of the photos from the 1960s in front of me appear as if the helmets are white.

The numbers show up consistently in most of the 1960s photos.  In some of the 1950s photos the helmets are blank like Ohio State with a solid blue stripe.  What did the Norse logo look like and when did they wear it?

My grandfather and some other relatives played at Luther in the late 30s right before the war.  I haven't seen a football helmet among their stuff, but I have seen the blue and white uniforms from football and baseball.

Why the gold helmets when the The Iowa Conference Story from 1961 says that Luther's school colors were blue and white just like today?  Did it have something to do from the 1920s or 1930s with the fact that Upper Iowa used to also wear royal blue jerseys in football back when lots of schools would only wear one uniform for all games rather than uniforms for home and away?  I know they tried a gold jersey one year (before numbers in 1934) just for the Upper Iowa game, but it sounds like it wasn't worth the hassle.

My understanding is that there weren't that many schools that had logos on the helmets before the 1960s.  A lot of what I have seen from that time period show either nothing but a stripe or stripes or the numbered look.

Thanks for the info!

[DutchHawk]

Speaking of helmets...

http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/

Cool website to check out!

[ramfan27]

The game on Saturday actually reminded me a little of the Luther-Cornell game in Mount Vernon from 2005 in which the Norse were actually way ahead and barely held on to win 29-23.  I remember that day clearly since Iowa blew the game late against Northwestern in Evanston.


I remember that game Floyd, we had some issues with our pass coverage the first quarter and a half and Luther was up 29-0.  But we chipped it away to 29-23 and got the ball back around midfield with a minute or two left to get the W but I think we turned it over.  The next week we lost to Wartburg 25-20 and we had a chance to win the game to.  Those were the last two games of the season.

[Floyd in Iowa City]

I remember that game Floyd, we had some issues with our pass coverage the first quarter and a half and Luther was up 29-0.  But we chipped it away to 29-23 and got the ball back around midfield with a minute or two left to get the W but I think we turned it over.  The next week we lost to Wartburg 25-20 and we had a chance to win the game to.  Those were the last two games of the season.

Pearson had a huge day for the Norse, but you are correct that a lot of the damage was done early.  Luther was without RBs Sherden and Lamos by that time of the season, so they were not able to run the ball at all to shorten the game.  When Luther started to try and milk the clock you guys eventually got all of the momentum.  Saturday reminded me of that game mainly in the sense that the Norse held on in a game where they led by more than two TDs.