FB: American Rivers Conference

[DutchFan2004]

Purple,

I think it is possible as well for you to win the last two games.  That is why I brought it up.  Cornell is improved over last year.  It will take mistake free ball to win those two games but as you stated anything is possible Augsburg proved that.  Good luck the rest of the season. 


I did not think that it was a close game.  Yes Cornell got two scores and got to within 5 but with the exception of the fumble in the endzone Cornell really didn't threaten the rest of the game. 

I think it was correct Cornell has 8-10 guys doing their job and then 1-3 breakdown.  There were a few dropped balls (on both sides) but it seemed to come at more critical times for the Rams.  I think Dillon has the program moving in the right direction.  If he can get a few more solid recruiting classes he will start getting some IIAC wins. 

[Ash Park]

Thanks for your opinions. I definitely agree that whenever Cornell made a push that Central raised the bar and Cornell most of the time did not match it. They need to clean up the mistakes.....I think I have been saying that for 7 weeks now  

[Ash Park]

Ash Park;  I guess I didn't see it hard fought. Cornell made some nervous moments to be sure, but it seemed whenver things got close the Dutch picked up the intensity and responded.  

IMO:  the first drive was very easy, looked like we had found a weak spot at CB.  From that point on I didn't get the impression of any real urgency on the Dutch sideline.  After a couple blown coverages led to the 19-14 score I expcected a bit of an ars chewing be DeWaard, but didn't see it.

Connell had another great game stats-wise, but I don't think we saw anything close to his top game.  The dropped, bouncing or wild snaps sure didn't help.  Schuring appeared to be back in form, but we are concerned withthe lack of holes to pop him through from the Rhinos.

I'd agree the Cornell skill positions, esp. QB appear to be in good shape, Gustafson's a gool LB, will be hard to replace.  They were also successfull with the FB although I'd say thats a defensive weakness for the Dutch and solid ball carrying, nothing exceptional for the Rams.

I'd also have to say the apparent successor to Connell looked very promising in the 4th QTR.  

I'm not one for moral victories and all that BS, but I was happy to see that the guys from Cornell did not back down at any moment. It would have been very easy for them to say well we are playing the #6 ranked team in the nation oh well lets get this over with. I think what I was really trying to say by it was a hard fought win for the Dutch was that they knew they were in a football game when they left that field.

[Wartburg Fan]

Old Dutch - touchy aren't we ? How do you know what I was going to say or would of said.


  Again good luck to everyone today

Ummm . . . not really.  Please share your thoughts.  My point was since your moniker has the W in it, I assume its because your visit to Waverly was better than your visit to Pella.  Ditto for my experiences to the contrary.  Go Dutch

You have to understand that my sons recruit trip to Central was under your (Centrals) old coaching staff.  When we went on his recruit trip, we met with both the football and basketball coachs.  This was in 2003 and I think that was the last year for both of these coach ( not sure on the football coach) so I don't if this had anything to do with his experience. but on the way home and talking with our son he felt as he wasn't wanted. He said that he felt he was bothering them by being there.  Believe me when I say that this was a difficult deceisson for him. It came down to Wartburg and Central, after his visit to Coe and Simpson. There was somethings that as parents we felt uncomfortable with after our visit with both schools But it wasn't up to us. When he told the coachs that the was going to Wartburg, the coach from central that was calling him wish him luck and said that he hope they won all their game except when it came to playing Central. Which I really have no problem with. You are right he just felt comfortable at Wartburg and the coachs told him he would not play his Freshman year, but will get a shot after his first year which he did and and started for three years. Nothing againts Cental but we are happy he chose Wartburg.

[Voice of the Dutch]

Insults continue...Dutch color guy just called us Coe...uggh.


Then Dutch score...from the Ram red zone, inside the 50.

I'm all for the homer radio type broadcast but today was pretty bad... I was at the game and once the iowa game was over listened to the second half and could not believe what these guys were saying. 

Old School,

Care to elaborate on what comments you couldn't believe?  By mid-2nd quarter, it had the makings of a laugher - and I said so.  At halftime, it still didn't feel like the Dutch were threatened - and I said so.  When the Rams were driving to make it a 5 point game, it was getting a little less comfortable - and I said so.  After the fumble and ensuing Central TD drive, I felt like it was game over - and I said so.

[Walston Hoover]

In '98 I had it down to Central and Wartburg. Simply put, when I visited Central I was creeped out by an almost cult-like atmosphere sorrounding the football team and the campus as a whole. It is one thing to have pride in your school, but it was kind of creepy and almost a 'no one dare say anything negative' type of vibe.
We had a guy that went to our high school come back to recruit the 3 of us who were looking at the Dutch. None of us went there, and we came from a pretty strong football tradition.
That was 9 years ago and things may have changed, but creepy was the word for it.
I have utmost respect for Central and their program, but it definitely wasn't for me.

[davedevine]

this is on the front page of D3, but for those of you who come straight to the chat board, you need to watch this.  It's been on ESPN quite a few times already as well.

14 laterals on last play for 61 yd TD.  One of the craziest plays i've ever seen in my life, I didn't time it but the play lasted for probably 20 seconds

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/10/28/trinity-millsaps-and-the-must-see-moment

[DBQ1965]

Footballdaddy ... since I was the one pontificating about "football and war," thanks for your apology.  I didn't take offense at what you said ... just wanted to offer up my take on things.

Anyway, UD won and that's what matters in my book.

[Purple Heys]

Insults continue...Dutch color guy just called us Coe...uggh.


Then Dutch score...from the Ram red zone, inside the 50.

I'm all for the homer radio type broadcast but today was pretty bad... I was at the game and once the iowa game was over listened to the second half and could not believe what these guys were saying. 

Old School,

Care to elaborate on what comments you couldn't believe?  By mid-2nd quarter, it had the makings of a laugher - and I said so.  At halftime, it still didn't feel like the Dutch were threatened - and I said so.  When the Rams were driving to make it a 5 point game, it was getting a little less comfortable - and I said so.  After the fumble and ensuing Central TD drive, I felt like it was game over - and I said so.

I'll chime in on this one...7-0, minutes into the game...Central announcers were talking blowout, before Cornell had the football.   Thought is was a premature comment that a crew as professional as Central's should have had more a bit more reserve on.  Central does not have, to my knowledge, student announcers...so they get less slack on such things IMO.

At 5 minutes into the 3rd Quarter the game was still anything but a blowout.  Cornell may have been at arm's length, but the game was not yet out of reach.  Again, a professional crew, making up for their premature observation, might be seen as obligated to make note that the game hadn't AT THAT POINT panned out to the expected blowout.  But since it really is a Central Home announcing crew, not a neutral setup...that's the kind of thing that can be overlooked.

See, I grew up listening to the Lakers' Chick Hearn and he didn't go into the "Refridgerator door's closed, the lights are off, the butter's getting hard, and the eggs are cooling" schtick until the game was most assuredly put away.  Call me nitpicky...it was slightly annoying when the Dutch announcers called it with 56 minutes to be played.

[Purple Heys]

...I'd also have to say the apparent successor to Connell looked very promising in the 4th QTR.

I wouldn't call his performance against a tired Cornell defense with their subs in as well as much of a barometer...little different flavor in a 0-0 game than garbage time.

Still and all, Central has what Cornell wants...quality depth at every position.

This upcoming recruiting class is a critical one for Cornell and future success.

[Purple Heys]

Purple,

I think it is possible as well for you to win the last two games.  That is why I brought it up.  Cornell is improved over last year.  It will take mistake free ball to win those two games but as you stated anything is possible Augsburg proved that.  Good luck the rest of the season.

Thanks...there is a difference between possible and probable.  That difference, in college football, can sometimes be an emotional/mental gap.  Cornell has to muster and sustain enough to overcome depth issues and maintain composure to limit turnover mistakes.  Cornell must play at a high level to start a game and sustain it.

They have had a knack for making the mistake at just the worst possible time, such as yesterday fumbling a kickoff return or fumbling inside the 5.  These are self-destructive habits that seemed to have the secondary effect of demoralizing the players.

I did not think that it was a close game.  Yes Cornell got two scores and got to within 5 but with the exception of the fumble in the endzone Cornell really didn't threaten the rest of the game.

I don't believe anyone at Central really thinks that there was chance this game could be lost.  I am not so Purple-blind to suggest that...I am suggesting that Football, hell, most athletic competitions, can be traced back to approximately 10 moments that determine the outcome.  As I follow the Rams so closely those moments were particularly clear to me.  This the classic IF THEN that fans of the losing teams agonize over.  In Central's other games I am sure you can find those points that had they gone Central's way would have led to a game being less close...or had they not gone Central's way would have led to a loss.  It's part of football.

[DutchHawk]

I missed quite a lot while I was up in northern Iowa for opening pheasant. Sounds like I didnt miss out on too much in Pella...will be up in Waverly for sure in 2 weeks for the big showdown! Good game by the Dutch...may have been taking Cornell a bit lightly on the field and let them hang around a bit before closing the door one them like they should.

I think one of the reasons for Schuring being in there is the guy has hardly seen any game action this year. Nice for him to get some reps. I wasnt around so I dont know how long he was and regardless of the score this isnt Jr High anymore...you play all 60 minutes. Good thing for Coach Mac to get the young guys that havent been seeing much varsity action in.

As for Central losing a lot, they do lose some big names, but dont fear...they have plenty of young very very talented guys waiting. This is a DEEP team...they have been playing freshman on the Oline, Linebackers and more all year and are 9-0. That speaks volumes about the abilities of the Dutch Dynasty people were writing off for dead just over 2 years ago!!

[Spurrier]

dupunks go down; they go down hard. . .sweet

the spartans will be invited to the first annual spurrier bowl held in beautiful kissimmee, florida on Janurary 2nd at the osceola county rodeo stadium, the silver spurs. . .their opponent will be the university of central florida, who i believe the warts put down hard a few years ago in basketball. . .

ESPN, the ocho, will cover the game with keith jackson doing the play-by -play and yours truly doing the color

go spartans

[Kohawk Krazy]

Congrats to Fred Jackson for getting his first regular season playing time today.  So far he has one carry and one catch.

[Willie University]

Devine- Amazing video clip-thanks!

DF2004- I NEVER said Jermar Jackson was a better leader then connell. Please reread my post. And I suppose we'll have to disagree about conference MVP. In my opinion, with 2 games left, Jackson should win in a close race.

As for the big win yesterday, Loras never really had a prayer from the 1st qtr. Sure, they hung around and gave their usually obnoxius fans something to cheer for a little while but the spartans controlled the entire game. It was a great atmosphere--contruction & all. My son seemed to enjoy his first football game ever and we got a little video of it so someday, if the hawkeyes don't come calling  , he will get to see himself on chalmers field before the contruction of the new stadium and at a whooping of Loras! What a great memory.

I would be a little more sympathetic to the loras fans and still will not stoop to their level for what I have witnessed the past how many years but I must say, at the end of the game, one of the loras D-lineman looked to throw a little bit of a temper tantrum, grabbing his chin straps and yanking them off in dismay at the loss and his other body movements visibly showed how upset he was at the loss. The only thing I care to say to him and other loras players and fans is take this loss on sat and your season as a slice of humble pie and quit thinking you are "better" then UD for whatever reason you think you have and start showing sportsmanship in wins and losses.

Willie U