FB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

Since it seems to be getting down to a 2 horse race for MVP.

Jackson for the season passing is 125 of 229 8 int's 14 td's 1,646 yds passer rating of 128.15
Connell for the season passing is 163 of 275 7 int's 25 td's 2,236 yds passer rating of 152.48

Jackson for the season rushing is 153 for 831 yds 16 td's
Connell for the season rushing is 85 for 107 yds 2 td's

Jackson all-purpose yds is 2,477 and total td's is 30
Connell all-purpose yds is 2,343 and total td's is 27

[Purple Heys]

Imagine how things would be at Cornell without him.

Um, 0-8?

Twice today a Coe post has got me to chuckle and/or agree. You guys are on a roll.
Purple Heys, I've got some brutal smack this week. We can keep it private if you want.

Hey Hoov...where's that Orange and Black smack?

[Purple Heys]

Since it seems to be getting down to a 2 horse race for MVP.

Jackson for the season passing is 125 of 229 8 int's 14 td's 1,646 yds passer rating of 128.15
Connell for the season passing is 163 of 275 7 int's 25 td's 2,236 yds passer rating of 152.48

Jackson for the season rushing is 153 for 831 yds 16 td's
Connell for the season rushing is 85 for 107 yds 2 td's

Jackson all-purpose yds is 2,477 and total td's is 30
Connell all-purpose yds is 2,343 and total td's is 27

Who's got the best hair?

[doolittledog]

Since it seems to be getting down to a 2 horse race for MVP.

Jackson for the season passing is 125 of 229 8 int's 14 td's 1,646 yds passer rating of 128.15
Connell for the season passing is 163 of 275 7 int's 25 td's 2,236 yds passer rating of 152.48

Jackson for the season rushing is 153 for 831 yds 16 td's
Connell for the season rushing is 85 for 107 yds 2 td's

Jackson all-purpose yds is 2,477 and total td's is 30
Connell all-purpose yds is 2,343 and total td's is 27

Who's got the best hair?

I believe Connell is blonde hair blue eyes and helps old ladies across the street when not in class or on the football field.

I say Connell gets the nod for MVP for leading Central to so many close wins.  It's not really a case of stats speaking for themselves. 

[Walston Hoover]

I can't bring myself to make fun of a school who hired a coach from HS that had a losing record his last couple years at that level.

[DutchHawk]

Since it seems to be getting down to a 2 horse race for MVP.

Jackson for the season passing is 125 of 229 8 int's 14 td's 1,646 yds passer rating of 128.15
Connell for the season passing is 163 of 275 7 int's 25 td's 2,236 yds passer rating of 152.48

Jackson for the season rushing is 153 for 831 yds 16 td's
Connell for the season rushing is 85 for 107 yds 2 td's

Jackson all-purpose yds is 2,477 and total td's is 30
Connell all-purpose yds is 2,343 and total td's is 27

Who's got the best hair?

I believe Connell is blonde hair blue eyes and helps old ladies across the street when not in class or on the football field.

I say Connell gets the nod for MVP for leading Central to so many close wins.  It's not really a case of stats speaking for themselves. 

I dont think you can vote MVP based on stats. Connell and Jackson are very comparable. Like I said before, I think it comes down to the gumption it takes to win the big games. Something Jackson was unable to do. As for Weber I think the stats knock him out of it and without him Wartburg would probably be in the same place. I think you can narrow the race down to Connell, Jackson, Breitbach, Sherden.

Walston - Thanks for organizing the All IIAC stuff, it will be interesting to see since some of us have watched more games than others and so on.

[Walston Hoover]

I'm going to have
5 OL
1 TE
3 WR
2 RB
1QB
1K
1P
4 DL
4 LB
2 CB
2 S
1 P/KR

I've been thinking about it and to take away any advantage a school like Wartburg has with more posters here, each school will have collectively 1 vote for each position, and no school can vote for their own player after nominations.

[knightlife06]

Finally, the Weber talk has to stop.  He is not even the best multi-purpose threat on his own team (Suckow) let alone the conference (Breitbach).  I agree he is a stud, but to say he deserves votes is rediculous especially when you consider that each coach gets ONE vote not a ballot of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd......although that is something we should consider when doing our post-season awards and teams for this board.

This is hilarious.  Has Suckow played any defense this year?  I don't think so.  Breitbach can not be mentioned in the same sentence as Weber yet.

Maybe you should go back to the post that compares the two players stats.  It appears that Breitbach is ahead of Weber in almost every category.

As has already been stated by WH, if you look at stats alone then Jackson from UD has the title locked up.  Breitbach is not as good as Weber, I'm confident any IIAC coach would agree with me. You can look at all the stats you want, but they won't tell the story.  IIAC OC's have been scared to throw toward Weber since he was a soph.

[Purple Heys]

I can't bring myself to make fun of a school who hired a coach from HS that had a losing record his last couple years at that level.

But you probably cheered for him in 2000 and 2001...I'm not up on my Iowa High School football, but wasn't that the last time a certain High School actually won a State Title?

[Klopenhiemer]

I can't bring myself to make fun of a school who hired a coach from HS that had a losing record his last couple years at that level.

But you probably cheered for him in 2000 and 2001...I'm not up on my Iowa High School football, but wasn't that the last time a certain High School actually won a State Title?

Walston:  I agree with you on this one.  Didnt think I could agree with Knights but I do. 

Heys:  Lets get this story straight.  I played against the 2000 and 2001 teams.  The man had unbelievable talent on those team. 

Lets List off the players off the team and where/what they are now

Matt Macri:  Colorado Rockies SS minor leagues
Zack Dillion:  4 year started at catcher for Baylor drafted into MLB
Tim Heaston:  played at Drake
Chris Hollman: played at Drake
James Thompson: went to Princeton for football
Matt Schwen: went to play at UNO
Aaron Fangman: UNO I believe
Ryan Opp: UNI baseball
Tom Baldwin: VIM to play football
Drew Davidson: Illinois to play baseball

I know I am missing some players as my mind has faded since those days.  The point was Dowling won both baseball and football championships those years.  Those kids were either moving on to play big time football or big time baseball.  Its been a long time since I have seen a group of high school kids so put together. 

Then Dillion head down to GA.  How did that work out?  Did he turn that ship around?  I believe he was turned down for the Cornell job at one time.  He is an Cornell alum so I wonder how much that played into the decision the second time. 

[Walston Hoover]

Wasn't around those years...STill at Dowling. I've been told Dave Wannstedt could win with the talent he had those years. He had losing seasons I believe the next 4 (at least an overall losing record) before heading to Cornell.
If Dillon needs talent to win, he's going to have a tough go at Cornell.

[Klopenhiemer]

If memory serves me correct I believe that he lost to DM East the following season opener.  East first win over Dowling since Moses parted the Red Seas

[BeaverOfYore]

LOL, NO I don't play! I have been out of school for years. I said "we compete" because as an alum, I consider myself a part of the SImpson community. It's just my opinion. Half of the conversations on this board take place about speculating which teams are better than others. In two weeks we will see who is more dominate- I just happen to think it will be Wartburg. Or maybe you are right, maybe Central just played really bad the day they played Simpson.

Klop- I was mostly referring to the academic side of things at BV. They may have nice facilities, and I am sure you can get a decent job, but they are near the very bottom of the IIAC in terms of academic profile. They'd have you believe they are the Harvard of the Midwest when you visit- it just came across a little too strong- too forced to be believable, and my whole point is that now i see why- they are NOT considered in the strongest schools academically.

I agree their actual campus isn't bad at all. Your theory about kids just not wanting to visit campus,  doesn't explain their below average retention rates. Last I knew it was in the mid to high 70%'s. There is SOME merit in not wanting to go to a school in a town where great internships are much harder to come by. I agree that if you could transplant that campus and put it somewhere else, they'd see much better enrollment and retention- but you can't.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1ccbach_mw_brief.php

[coocooforcoekohawk]

  Breitbach is not as good as Weber, I'm confident any IIAC coach would agree with me. You can look at all the stats you want, but they won't tell the story. 

I agree, when looking at who should be MVP you should throw out the stats.

It really should be about feelings, how coaches feel about the player.  You know, who would be the best player on a fictional All-Conference team that would play their games in a vacuum.  Their opposition would possess the same level of talent at each position.  Who ever that guy would be, that is your MVP.  Coaches shouldn't bother looking at stats because they know talent, that is their job.  What happens on the field during the course of the season only muddies the water when looking at how one feels about the players talent.  In fact, we should announce the MVP at the start of the season in order to celebrate his accomplishment all season long.

[Alfredeneumann]

Wasn't around those years...STill at Dowling. I've been told Dave Wannstedt could win with the talent he had those years. He had losing seasons I believe the next 4 (at least an overall losing record) before heading to Cornell.
If Dillon needs talent to win, he's going to have a tough go at Cornell.

Obviously he man could recruit to get all that talent to Dowling... hahaha