FB: American Rivers Conference

[Wartburg Fan]

From the sounds of it I wonder if all those blowouts for Mt Union maybe bit them a bit on the butt today???  They weren't used to playing in close games (unlike Central  ) and when they got in a close one it sounds like they self destructed and got 3 personal foul calls.  That, and I imagine Whitewater was just a bit motivated for today after losing in the final the last 2 years to Mt. Union. 

You are probably right and yes UWW looked alot more motivated the MU. In fact I believe MU though they just need to show up to win.

[warthog]

Here is my unsolicited response to Walston Hoover's question about favorite football players.  I'll show my age and name players some of the people here have never heard of.

Running backs (known then as halfbacks): Willie Galimore and Lenny Moore

D-Line: Alex Karras and Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb

L-backer: Bill George and Sam Huff

D-back: Larry Wilson and Night Train Lane

O-line:  Conrad Dobler and Dan Dierdorf

Q-back: Jim Hart and Lenny Dawson

W-receiver (known then as split end): Raymond Berry, Ike Harris, Otto Stowe and Otis Taylor

T-end: Jackie Smith

[DutchFan2004]

WOW what a football game. It was interesting the hole game. Justin Beaver's is one hell of a football player. I also though the IIAC ref's did a good job letting the kids decide the game. Congrat's to UWW for take it right to the Mount Union team. Two outstanding teams.

I thought that in all the games in the playoffs I saw this year the officials sucked on their wistles a lot.  I thought that there were many holding penalties that should have been called.  I know that you can call holding on most every play.  The one that comes to mind was the one they call a 5 yard face mask on UWW and that defender was taken to the ground by the O lineman blocking him.  I do think there were a lot of good no calls. 

I saw that play too I agree they blew that call. In fact I though MU's right tackle was holding most of the game. I couldn't believe they didn't call more holding, If I could see it,It had to be bad. But other then that I thought they did a fairly good job.

That play was the only one that I saw and remember.  I know I saw others and the officials blew holding calls on both sides of the ball not just for MUC.  I know I sat UWW was holding a couple of times.  The game was called both ways so it was fair in that respect.  IMO though if you are not going to call the penalties why do you have the officials out there? 

[Purple Heys]

I just got through watching the game on DVR.   D3 in HD is sweet.

Notes:

UWW's defense, in my opinion was the difference.  Beaver had a great game to be sure...but he fumbled twice and the D bailed him out on one and the O-Lineman bailed him out on the other.

MUC fumbled 6 times, lost 3.  UWW D was attacking the football.

I thought UWW's offensive coordinator had a very good scheme.  UWW passed quite a bit on 1st down and ran on 2nd down with generally positive results even of the 1st down pass was incomplete.  Credit to Beaver's skills and the OLine

This is why I was hoping to see the Dutch get a chance to test MUC.  With their pass-run attack, I thought they might be able to find a chink in the MUC armor.  I felt a running team such as Bethel had no chance.

UWW generally looked more physical in both sides of the ball.  Very impressed with how UWW defenders made the initial hit and the MUC ballcarriers generally got almost no yards after contact.

If any NFL scouts came to watch MUC's Garcon, they had to have left unimpressed.  Andy Murray of UWW seemed to be everywhere.

With all the holding our refs allowed UWW still got pressure on MUC's QB.

I wondered to myself how Sherden would do behind that UWW O-Line...

It took a State school, with roughly 1/3 the tuition cost and with an enrollment of 7500 to take down MUC.  I am actually semi-shocked UWW could ever be looked at as an underdog.  Forget Geico, Danny Jones just saved a ton of money transferring from Cal Lu to UWW...and got a nice championship ring to go with it.

I don't know why...but I like the colors on both teams. 

[davedevine]

Sportsknight,
I did a search on youtube for WB and I watched  your Sportsknight 150 special that you produced.
Nice work.   Even Walston made a few apperances on the special as well. 

What is Licko, Buzza, & Marlin up to these days?  Last I heard (it's been awhile) Licko was working for KCRG or KGAN? 

Also watched the painful 03 loss to Linfield.   I remember listening to that game on the internet. down 20-6 with 7:30 left in game and WB tied it with 1:20 left.  Thought with their momentum that they would have had a good shot to win  in OT     

The miracle in the mud highlights were also in the list of items that came up

[davedevine]

I forgot to mention this: 
normally there aren't pt spreads on any games other than D1 but  due to the few college games on today,  I saw on a website that Mt was 20 pt favorite....

people who didn't know anything about d3 were looking at Mt's  previous scores and going by this when taking them

[davedevine]

one last item.

I'm not a Pam Ward fan at all.  I've had to listen to her call quite a few hawkeye games in the past, so today wasn't the first game I've heard from her.

Pat, maybe you need to campaign to ESPN to let you and your cronies do the play by play and color
I realize play by play isn't an easy thing to do, but anything would be better than pam ward!

by the way, my wife asked me how i knew it was a female calling the game..    that there is funny

[Dutchster]

one last item.

I'm not a Pam Ward fan at all.  I've had to listen to her call quite a few hawkeye games in the past, so today wasn't the first game I've heard from her.

Pat, maybe you need to campaign to ESPN to let you and your cronies do the play by play and color
I realize play by play isn't an easy thing to do, but anything would be better than pam ward!

by the way, my wife asked me how i knew it was a female calling the game..    that there is funny

[Dutchster]

one last item.

I'm not a Pam Ward fan at all.  I've had to listen to her call quite a few hawkeye games in the past, so today wasn't the first game I've heard from her.

Pat, maybe you need to campaign to ESPN to let you and your cronies do the play by play and color
I realize play by play isn't an easy thing to do, but anything would be better than pam ward!

by the way, my wife asked me how i knew it was a female calling the game..    that there is funny

Sorry about the prior post...I didn't think Pam was that bad except for the fact that she mentioned..."none of these players were offered scholarships...anywhere"...just goes to show her ignorance, and subsequently that of ESPN.  Not saying they would have won, but would have liked to see the Dutch against both of these teams.  Great game, and a great showcase for football at the D3 level.  The D2 game didn't hold a candle to this game in my opinion.  Watched them both. 

[Klopenhiemer]

WOW what a football game. It was interesting the hole game. Justin Beaver's is one hell of a football player. I also though the IIAC ref's did a good job letting the kids decide the game. Congrat's to UWW for take it right to the Mount Union team. Two outstanding teams.

I thought that in all the games in the playoffs I saw this year the officials sucked on their wistles a lot.  I thought that there were many holding penalties that should have been called.  I know that you can call holding on most every play.  The one that comes to mind was the one they call a 5 yard face mask on UWW and that defender was taken to the ground by the O lineman blocking him.  I do think there were a lot of good no calls. 

I saw that play too I agree they blew that call. In fact I though MU's right tackle was holding most of the game. I couldn't believe they didn't call more holding, If I could see it,It had to be bad. But other then that I thought they did a fairly good job.

That play was the only one that I saw and remember.  I know I saw others and the officials blew holding calls on both sides of the ball not just for MUC.  I know I sat UWW was holding a couple of times.  The game was called both ways so it was fair in that respect.  IMO though if you are not going to call the penalties why do you have the officials out there? 

IMO I think you need to take the worst cases of the penatlies that are made on the field every down.  If we are being completely honest, I think we would all agree there is a penalty on every play.  Blantent holding, and so and so forth need to be called and anger me when they are not.  Ticky tack penaltys though at the same time, slow the game down an drive the fans nuts.  It is a very find line and a very interesting theory to take shape durning a game. 

[Klopenhiemer]

I just got through watching the game on DVR.   D3 in HD is sweet.

Notes:

UWW's defense, in my opinion was the difference.  Beaver had a great game to be sure...but he fumbled twice and the D bailed him out on one and the O-Lineman bailed him out on the other.

MUC fumbled 6 times, lost 3.  UWW D was attacking the football.

I thought UWW's offensive coordinator had a very good scheme.  UWW passed quite a bit on 1st down and ran on 2nd down with generally positive results even of the 1st down pass was incomplete.  Credit to Beaver's skills and the OLine

This is why I was hoping to see the Dutch get a chance to test MUC.  With their pass-run attack, I thought they might be able to find a chink in the MUC armor.  I felt a running team such as Bethel had no chance.

UWW generally looked more physical in both sides of the ball.  Very impressed with how UWW defenders made the initial hit and the MUC ballcarriers generally got almost no yards after contact.

If any NFL scouts came to watch MUC's Garcon, they had to have left unimpressed.  Andy Murray of UWW seemed to be everywhere.

With all the holding our refs allowed UWW still got pressure on MUC's QB.

I wondered to myself how Sherden would do behind that UWW O-Line...

It took a State school, with roughly 1/3 the tuition cost and with an enrollment of 7500 to take down MUC.  I am actually semi-shocked UWW could ever be looked at as an underdog.  Forget Geico, Danny Jones just saved a ton of money transferring from Cal Lu to UWW...and got a nice championship ring to go with it.

I don't know why...but I like the colors on both teams. 

Purple, Its 2:30 CDT in Chicago and it has been snowing like a crazy.  For a change of pace you can come sit in the truck with me and push snow/talk about IIAC football. 
Just wanting to make sure you know how much you would benefit from moving to the midwest and experiences a trure 4 season.  So how is the search for IA real estate coming?

[Old Dutch]

This is why I was hoping to see the Dutch get a chance to test MUC.  With their pass-run attack, I thought they might be able to find a chink in the MUC armor.  I felt a running team such as Bethel had no chance.

UWW generally looked more physical in both sides of the ball.  Very impressed with how UWW defenders made the initial hit and the MUC ballcarriers generally got almost no yards after contact.

If any NFL scouts came to watch MUC's Garcon, they had to have left unimpressed.  Andy Murray of UWW seemed to be everywhere.

Obviously I would agree when Heyes says he would like to have seen the Dutch vs the Mount.  The announceers even called the WW defense "bend but don't break" at one time, thats famiiar to us.  I also thought the coverage of Garcon was the differnece maker and that was something I think Centrals D also have done.  Not sure about slowing that MUC O-line and running game though.  That was exxcelent front 7 play by UWW.

Great fun watching this on ESPN, even though I had to explain the importance of this contest to too many supposed FB fans.

If ESPN wants to use women on play by play lets give DF1 a chance!   

[DutchFan2004]

This is why I was hoping to see the Dutch get a chance to test MUC.  With their pass-run attack, I thought they might be able to find a chink in the MUC armor.  I felt a running team such as Bethel had no chance.

UWW generally looked more physical in both sides of the ball.  Very impressed with how UWW defenders made the initial hit and the MUC ballcarriers generally got almost no yards after contact.

If any NFL scouts came to watch MUC's Garcon, they had to have left unimpressed.  Andy Murray of UWW seemed to be everywhere.

Obviously I would agree when Heyes says he would like to have seen the Dutch vs the Mount.  The announceers even called the WW defense "bend but don't break" at one time, thats famiiar to us.  I also thought the coverage of Garcon was the differnece maker and that was something I think Centrals D also have done.  Not sure about slowing that MUC O-line and running game though.  That was exxcelent front 7 play by UWW.

Great fun watching this on ESPN, even though I had to explain the importance of this contest to too many supposed FB fans.

If ESPN wants to use women on play by play lets give DF1 a chance!   

I think DF1 would have done a better job and have been a lot more knowledgable about D3. 

[Fannosaurus Rex]

I can remember after Central lost to Whitewater two years ago, I was encouraged because there were so many sophmores on their roster.  Then I looked at the Whitewater roster and saw several of their key players were also underclassmen and then I said, "shucks," or something like that.  It sounds like Mt. Union graduates a lot this year too.  Maybe we will get to see some new teams in the playoffs next year.

Every year I hope Central will make it to the Stagg Bowl and every year I watch it on T.V. and think how glad I am I'm not sitting in the stands out it that nasty weather.  I guess I'm not the fan I like to think I am.

[Floyd in Iowa City]

I just got through watching the game on DVR.   D3 in HD is sweet.

Notes:

UWW's defense, in my opinion was the difference.  Beaver had a great game to be sure...but he fumbled twice and the D bailed him out on one and the O-Lineman bailed him out on the other.

MUC fumbled 6 times, lost 3.  UWW D was attacking the football.

I thought UWW's offensive coordinator had a very good scheme.  UWW passed quite a bit on 1st down and ran on 2nd down with generally positive results even of the 1st down pass was incomplete.  Credit to Beaver's skills and the OLine

This is why I was hoping to see the Dutch get a chance to test MUC.  With their pass-run attack, I thought they might be able to find a chink in the MUC armor.  I felt a running team such as Bethel had no chance.

UWW generally looked more physical in both sides of the ball.  Very impressed with how UWW defenders made the initial hit and the MUC ballcarriers generally got almost no yards after contact.

If any NFL scouts came to watch MUC's Garcon, they had to have left unimpressed.  Andy Murray of UWW seemed to be everywhere.

With all the holding our refs allowed UWW still got pressure on MUC's QB.

I wondered to myself how Sherden would do behind that UWW O-Line...

It took a State school, with roughly 1/3 the tuition cost and with an enrollment of 7500 to take down MUC.  I am actually semi-shocked UWW could ever be looked at as an underdog.  Forget Geico, Danny Jones just saved a ton of money transferring from Cal Lu to UWW...and got a nice championship ring to go with it.

I don't know why...but I like the colors on both teams. 

Great post Heys! 

It always has seemed strange to me that the Northern Sun is a Division II league and the WIAC is Division III.  With all of the former NCC schools joining the league very soon, the Northern Sun is now starting to look more like a real Division II conference.

I wonder is someday the WIAC will move up to Division II.

Whitewater has some advantages from being a bigger state school.  Both schools yesterday sounded like they have been helped from impact transfers.  Sounds kind of like Wartburg and Augsburg wrestling!

Sherden would have done very well at Whitewater!  He also would have done well with the Norse Offense that would have been around him if he could have been healthy in 2006.  The Norse Defense the past three years however can't hold a candle to what Whitewater has been putting out there.