FB: American Rivers Conference

[Willie University]

Just looking at the UD website it shows that Jeremy Fellows is now listed as the OC replacing the departed Joe Austin.  Last year I know 3 of the four captains said they had been recruited to UD by Fellows so I guess he was a good option to move up to OC...he is also the track coach there.  Also of note is Jay Davis isn't listed as a coach.  He had come to UD with Brautigam from Mt. Senario so those two had been together a long time.  He had been listed as assistant head coach and DC, don't know where he has gone.  So UD will have a new OC and DC next season to go along with replacing quite a few starters. 

That is not true, Jay Davis is still the Defensive Coordinator at UD. Jeremy Fellows moving up to Offensive Coordinator with the departure of Joe Austin is the only change.

Willie U

[doolittledog]

Just looking at the UD website it shows that Jeremy Fellows is now listed as the OC replacing the departed Joe Austin.  Last year I know 3 of the four captains said they had been recruited to UD by Fellows so I guess he was a good option to move up to OC...he is also the track coach there.  Also of note is Jay Davis isn't listed as a coach.  He had come to UD with Brautigam from Mt. Senario so those two had been together a long time.  He had been listed as assistant head coach and DC, don't know where he has gone.  So UD will have a new OC and DC next season to go along with replacing quite a few starters. 

That is not true, Jay Davis is still the Defensive Coordinator at UD. Jeremy Fellows moving up to Offensive Coordinator with the departure of Joe Austin is the only change.

Willie U

Thanks for the update.  When I looked at UD's website this morning Jay Davis wasn't on there as an assistant so I was assuming he wasn't there any more. 

[BeaverOfYore]

The Coach Raeburn thing is that most all coaches want to better themselves and if he thinks the Wabash job is better more power to him.  The question I have is how long of contract does he have.  Will Coe renew a contract with him if he is a candidate for a job every year.  Would that hurt recruiting eventually with the players knowing that the coach may be gone next year.  I don't totally buy that the players don't like him and put up with him if he doesn't have contact with him.  Some players may do that but the majority of the team must like him or why would the go there or attend there if they didn't like him.  I can see why Coe keeps him as well as they have been Champ or vying for the spot every year the past 4 since I have been paying attention.  He has a good team and program so maybe Coe is happy with the results.  I can also understand if he wants to get closer to family and move East.  Not an easy situation for anyone to be in. 

Maybe Raeburn is different when he recruits than he is in practice.  I know that I thought Osty was a great guy before I really got to know him.  After my freshman year of football, I had very little respect for the guy and didn't really care for his personality either.  However, I liked the rest of the coaches, the school, and my friends, and I liked football in spite of my dislike for my position coach.  I don't think he really cared for me either, but neither he nor I let that get in the way of our jobs as coach and player, respectively.  It sounds like that might be the case with a lot of guys at Coe.  It might sound strange to the guys from Wartburg and Central who seem to love their coaches universally, but some of us played for ourselves and our teammates even though our coach didn't always make us want to play for him.

[Klopenhiemer]

Wow, you 2 need to get a room.

Same could be said for you and sportsknight

[Walston Hoover]

Let the record reflect that I have never given SK any karma.

[Klopenhiemer]

Let the record reflect that I have never given SK any karma.

Duely noted. 

[Purple Heys]

Thoughts on Raeburn...

At the D1 level when a guy's name keeps coming up, it's usually due to a track record of success.  Certainly Coe has had success, so why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt?

As a ballplayer you don't need to love or even like your coach (although it certainly makes for a better experience), you should at least respect the man and the position and vice versa.

I will bet money that McMartin doesn't like every single one of his players but he certainly respects them.

[Klopenhiemer]

The Coach Raeburn thing is that most all coaches want to better themselves and if he thinks the Wabash job is better more power to him.  The question I have is how long of contract does he have.  Will Coe renew a contract with him if he is a candidate for a job every year.  Would that hurt recruiting eventually with the players knowing that the coach may be gone next year.  I don't totally buy that the players don't like him and put up with him if he doesn't have contact with him.  Some players may do that but the majority of the team must like him or why would the go there or attend there if they didn't like him.  I can see why Coe keeps him as well as they have been Champ or vying for the spot every year the past 4 since I have been paying attention.  He has a good team and program so maybe Coe is happy with the results.  I can also understand if he wants to get closer to family and move East.  Not an easy situation for anyone to be in. 

Maybe Raeburn is different when he recruits than he is in practice.  I know that I thought Osty was a great guy before I really got to know him.  After my freshman year of football, I had very little respect for the guy and didn't really care for his personality either.  However, I liked the rest of the coaches, the school, and my friends, and I liked football in spite of my dislike for my position coach.  I don't think he really cared for me either, but neither he nor I let that get in the way of our jobs as coach and player, respectively.  It sounds like that might be the case with a lot of guys at Coe.  It might sound strange to the guys from Wartburg and Central who seem to love their coaches universally, but some of us played for ourselves and our teammates even though our coach didn't always make us want to play for him.

I could echo these same sediments.  I felt the same way.  I felt like a million dollars after I left campus on my visit.  After I left the hallowed halls after graduation I wondered if I would ever talk to any of them again, the coaches I mean.  I know others felt this way as well.  For a given few they had the opportunities that others of us wish we had.  But hey that is life.  

[Purple Heys]

As far as recruiting goes...I don't see why a competing coach wouldn't use the information as to Raeburn's wandering eye as a F.U.D. tactic to pry away a recruit.


F.U.D. =  Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt

[Klopenhiemer]

Thoughts on Raeburn...

At the D1 level when a guy's name keeps coming up, it's usually due to a track record of success.  Certainly Coe has had success, so why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt?

As a ballplayer you don't need to love or even like your coach (although it certainly makes for a better experience), you should at least respect the man and the position and vice versa.

I will bet money that McMartin doesn't like every single one of his players but he certainly respects them.

Heys you hit on good point which is respect.  You do not have to like who you play for but you have the respect them.  I have older friends who played for Hayden Fry when he coached at Iowa.  They said after the signed their name to the scholorship their intereaction with him was slim to none.  But they respected him for what he stood for and his football mind.  Respect for your coaches can win or lose ball games and make or break seasons.  You have the believe in what they are saying regardless.  Some could say that reason BV has had mediocre season has a lot to do with the respect that players had for the coaches and for their teammates.  

[doolittledog]

Hey Purple, do you know the 2008 schedule for your Rams???  I am curious to see who they are playing for the non-con portion of their schedule.  Actually their whole schedule.  I think our eating at Chameleons last year might have turned my dad into a closet Cornell fan...he keeps mentioning he wants to go back and get a blue cheese burger!!!

[Walston Hoover]

Have you taken a sales course Purple?

[Purple Heys]

In preservation of their In-Region records, their dignity, and their natural essences; both Northwestern and Alma have dropped themselves off the Ram schedule from their annual whuppin'  

I have no idea who we are adding...but your Spartans took my SCIAC suggestion and are heading out to my old home town of Redlands...I would have rather seen my Rams make that trek.

I hear that maybe Grinnell becomes one of our next non-conference victims.

Maybe we can go kick LaVerne around or something, or Louise and Clark since Oxy finally dropped them.  Actually I'd like to see them play any SCIAC team away since that is closer to home.  Travel $ are prohibitive.

[Purple Heys]

Have you taken a sales course Purple?

No.  I design Hot Tubs.

I am not kidding.

[sportsknight]

Let the record reflect that I have never given SK any karma.

And vice versa.