FB: American Rivers Conference

[the_mayne_event]

that is a fun little toy

[DutchFan2004]

Staker must be low on the list and they haven't gotten around to offering him the position yet.

[BeaverOfYore]

Knowing where the candidates were from might shed some light on the money issue.  I know a lot of people from larger cities don't know how cheap it is to live in Iowa and scoff at our puny salaries.  I don't know how many times I've heard someone around here say "So-and-so moved to LA and they're making 75k right out of college.  Wow, that must be nice!"

Then I consult my handy calculator and read this:

"To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $75,000 in Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, California could decrease to $39,238 in Waterloo-Cedar Falls, Iowa
Stated another way, it's 47.7% cheaper to live in Waterloo-Cedar Falls, Iowa than Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, California"

...and realize it's not so bad right where I'm at.

[the_mayne_event]

I wonder if compensation is an issue?
I was surprised to hear how much Simpson was offering. I would imagine Des Moines area and CR area are similar in cost of living. A little higher than Storm Lake.

What did you hear about what Simpson was offering?  All I have seen was Luther said the conference average was 65k and they were competitive with that.  I also remember seeing that Osty went from 45k at BV to 65k at Loras. 

So if Coe had 5 finalists and some have turned the job down...do they just go down the list of the 5 finalists until someone accepts or do they open up the process again???

Well money is a large issue.  If the article has any weight why to go Coe for $65k when you can go to BSC for $150k?

only reason i can think of is if your an alum from a certain school, maybe you would want to finish your career where you started...

Marv Levy...or Freddie Jackson figures he's made enough in the NFL and coming back to coach...unlikely but there you go.  How about Staker???  Good HS coach...sent all his kids to Coe...both he and a son were on staff last year...would have loads of contacts in the Iowa HS coaching ranks...and so on and so on...

i honestly dont think staker actually wants to do it.  he would probably do it if they asked, but the guy has grandkids that he would rather spend his time with rather than all the demands of the head coach.  i know the assistants have a ton of time spent there too, but i just don't think he would rather be the head coach than an assistant.  i know he applied to it, but i think that was more for what it would look like from the outside if your top assistant coach didn't apply for the job, why would anyone else want it.  why would someone from the outside want to be the head coach if he didnt atleast "want" it.

[TheOne89.1]

that is a fun little toy

I agree!  This thing says it's 8% cheaper to live back in the Waverly area (Waterloo-CF) than up here in Winona, MN.  Looks like I may want to move back closer to Wartburg after all.

Although it is tougher to get my hands on a bottle of Grainbelt down in Waverly (point for MN)....but there is no 3.2 beer in gas stations in Waverly (point IA).  Oh the decisions.

[dutchfan1]

I don't know -- with this "end of career" talk I wonder why Coe would actively recruit someone to "end their career" there -- why not actively recruit a younger, up and comer who is hungry for accomplishment? I would doubt the Coe administration would go that route -- it doesn't make as much sense.

[the_mayne_event]

I don't know -- with this "end of career" talk I wonder why Coe would actively recruit someone to "end their career" there -- why not actively recruit a younger, up and comer who is hungry for accomplishment? I would doubt the Coe administration would go that route -- it doesn't make as much sense.

i'm not saying they are, i was just saying that it would be the only plausable reason why someone would go somewhere where you werent making signaficantly more money.
i think what you said would be the best situation as well.

[coocooforcoekohawk]

I don't know -- with this "end of career" talk I wonder why Coe would actively recruit someone to "end their career" there -- why not actively recruit a younger, up and comer who is hungry for accomplishment? I would doubt the Coe administration would go that route -- it doesn't make as much sense.

Chandler saw what Landis did to the basketball program, why would he do that to the football program?

[BeaverOfYore]

that is a fun little toy

I agree!  This thing says it's 8% cheaper to live back in the Waverly area (Waterloo-CF) than up here in Winona, MN.  Looks like I may want to move back closer to Wartburg after all.

Although it is tougher to get my hands on a bottle of Grainbelt down in Waverly (point for MN)....but there is no 3.2 beer in gas stations in Waverly (point IA).  Oh the decisions.

I don't know about Waverly, but Grain Belt is readily available at any Hy-Vee in CF/W'loo, and a lot of bars are starting to offer it as well.  If I lived in Waverly, I'd readily make the drive for a sip of the sweet nectar that is Grain Belt.

[Confused77]

If people really have turned the job down it has to be some type of compensation issue. It does not have to be a yearly salary issue, maybe it is "my 2 kids are in HS and I want them to be able to go to college for free."

I have heard of a few guys that have turned down jobs because their kids don't get free tuition and the such

Either way, the longer this goes on the worse it could get in the court of public perception.

I have heard the claws are out on the recruiting trail when a kid says the are looking at Coe. I think the standard response from the coach would be "Why would you go there, they don't even have a Head Coach"

[coocooforcoekohawk]

If people really have turned the job down it has to be some type of compensation issue. It does not have to be a yearly salary issue, maybe it is "my 2 kids are in HS and I want them to be able to go to college for free."

I have heard of a few guys that have turned down jobs because their kids don't get free tuition and the such

That would be news to me.  Everyone from coaches to professors to janitorial staff gets free tuition at Coe for their children.  My coach got married while I was their and two years later his step daughter got free tuition.  Maybe things have changed.  Are you sure, or just Confused?

[the_mayne_event]

If people really have turned the job down it has to be some type of compensation issue. It does not have to be a yearly salary issue, maybe it is "my 2 kids are in HS and I want them to be able to go to college for free."

I have heard of a few guys that have turned down jobs because their kids don't get free tuition and the such

That would be news to me.  Everyone from coaches to professors to janitorial staff gets free tuition at Coe for their children.  My coach got married while I was their and two years later his step daughter got free tuition.  Maybe things have changed.  Are you sure, or just Confused?

Kids get free tuition still

[Confused77]

If people really have turned the job down it has to be some type of compensation issue. It does not have to be a yearly salary issue, maybe it is "my 2 kids are in HS and I want them to be able to go to college for free."

I have heard of a few guys that have turned down jobs because their kids don't get free tuition and the such

That would be news to me.  Everyone from coaches to professors to janitorial staff gets free tuition at Coe for their children.  My coach got married while I was their and two years later his step daughter got free tuition.  Maybe things have changed.  Are you sure, or just Confused?

I never said that is the issue, I just know that maybe that could be a sticking point for some people I believe a coach turned down a different IIAC school a few years back because of that. I was simply putting it out there.

[Confused77]

If people really have turned the job down it has to be some type of compensation issue. It does not have to be a yearly salary issue, maybe it is "my 2 kids are in HS and I want them to be able to go to college for free."

I have heard of a few guys that have turned down jobs because their kids don't get free tuition and the such

That would be news to me.  Everyone from coaches to professors to janitorial staff gets free tuition at Coe for their children.  My coach got married while I was their and two years later his step daughter got free tuition.  Maybe things have changed.  Are you sure, or just Confused?

Kids get free tuition still

Seems like Kohawk nation is getting restless waiting for a new coach

[coocooforcoekohawk]

I never said that is the issue, I just know that maybe that could be a sticking point for some people I believe a coach turned down a different IIAC school a few years back because of that. I was simply putting it out there.

Now you can put it back.