FB: American Rivers Conference

[coocooforcoekohawk]

So TME seems to know who will be the next Coe coach, yet Coocoo and Charlie are nowhere to be found. 

Seems like Kohawk nation is getting restless waiting for a new coach

So, if we answer your questions we are getting restless, and if we don't we are hiding?

[dutchfan1]

Honestly, the rumor that two candidates have turned down the job is unsubstantiated at this point -- chat room gossip. I don't think the length of time Coe is without a coach is saying anything about the institution other than the administration is taking their time to find the right candidate, which is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately, the timing sucks for them -- this is not a great time in recruiting for them to be without a coach. How tough would it be to recruit without a head coach and cohesive vision for the team? I don't envy that job, and I'm in marketing!

[Confused77]

So TME seems to know who will be the next Coe coach, yet Coocoo and Charlie are nowhere to be found. 

Seems like Kohawk nation is getting restless waiting for a new coach

So, if we answer your questions we are getting restless, and if we don't we are hiding?

I never said anyone was hiding.

If I was a Coe fan I would be getting restless. Raeburn built a hell of a program, I would think finding the right guy could be pretty easy for a school that has a good program and as much as I hate to say it, is in a decent location in terms of things to do for students, outside of academics.

[DutchFan2004]

So TME seems to know who will be the next Coe coach, yet Coocoo and Charlie are nowhere to be found. 

Seems like Kohawk nation is getting restless waiting for a new coach

So, if we answer your questions we are getting restless, and if we don't we are hiding?

I think that sizes it up.   

[ramfan27]

Honestly, the rumor that two candidates have turned down the job is unsubstantiated at this point -- chat room gossip. I don't think the length of time Coe is without a coach is saying anything about the institution other than the administration is taking their time to find the right candidate, which is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately, the timing sucks for them -- this is not a great time in recruiting for them to be without a coach. How tough would it be to recruit without a head coach and cohesive vision for the team? I don't envy that job, and I'm in marketing!

DF1 is right.  After my visits my senior year of high school I had my three schools down to Central, Simpson and Cornell.  I narrowed it down to Simpson and Cornell, both of which were going through coaching changes but Cornell had named Reasland the coach and I could talk to him about his plans for the program.  When it came time for me to decide Simpson had not yet named a coach so I was hesitant to go there.  Thus I became a Ram.

[the_mayne_event]

Honestly, the rumor that two candidates have turned down the job is unsubstantiated at this point -- chat room gossip. I don't think the length of time Coe is without a coach is saying anything about the institution other than the administration is taking their time to find the right candidate, which is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately, the timing sucks for them -- this is not a great time in recruiting for them to be without a coach. How tough would it be to recruit without a head coach and cohesive vision for the team? I don't envy that job, and I'm in marketing!

i would like to see them get a head coach sooner rather then later.  but what you say is true, i know it, but it is hard to sell that to kids at 18.  they dont think of what they can do outside of football and school.  the best thing about cedar rapids, to me, is the downtown area and different local establishments that seniors in highschool cant enjoy for another 3 years.  they just want to go to a program that they feel that they can help (ie. play and win) and win conference championships and go to the playoffs.
i think that arguement would work with a coach as well.  there are things to do in cedar rapids that you can't do an pretty much all other cities in iowa (except for the other large ones)  it would be a great arguemnt compensate for, i dont know, not paying what they probably should be paying with how well both the program and school is doing.

[doolittledog]

Coe not having a coach certainly gives us something to talk about on here!!!

It will be interesting to see if Coe can continue the success that Raeburn brought to Coe in the transition to the IIAC. 

[dutchfan1]

I don't think Coe will have a problem building upon their success. The right foundation is there.

Recruitment doesn't seem that difficult overall -- speak to the student. Kids (especially who are big shots in HS) want to feel as though they can attend a college and be a difference maker. For some it is as simple as that. Some want to be difference makers for winning teams, teams with tradition, yadda, yadda. But ultimately I think kids want the coach to sit in their living room and talk about how much they are needed in XYZ position as they build 'such and such' winning tradition. They want to know how they are needed as part of that. The formula is already there -- finding a coach to put a face to this equation is more the challenge for Coe at this point.

[Purple Heys]

Word on the street is atleast two people have turned Coe down

Well we know 1 was Purple Heys because of the whole crunchberries deal.

What is with all this cloak and dagger stuff...word on the street and other talk???  I want details, names, stuff like that!!!

It's 43.1% cheaper to live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa than San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, California


I am hung up on the amount of Crunchberries in San Diego rates.  Coe is offering Cedar Rapids rates.  This is where Coe and I can't get to an accord.  I want to live like a king, or dare I say...a Cap'n, in terms of Crunchberries.

[sportsknight]

[Fair point.  From a strictly PR standpoint, if Coe's recruiting efforts have not dropped off, then they may be better off not making an announcement for about 10-14 days.  Anything they would announce between now and about the 10th of March would not get much media coverage because it would be fighting for airtime/column inches with the state basketball tournaments.  But if they could make the announcement the 10th or 11th, they could get a day or two worth of coverage before attention shifts to the Big 10 and Big 12 basketball tournaments and the Big Dance.

Not to offend there SK but do you really think that Coe thinks that they will garner all that much press on the timing?  I don't think the big papers in the state care with the exception of the CR paper.  The TV stations may give their obligatory announcements on the the show and then move on.  I don't think timing of the annoucement makes all that much difference as to the amount of press/air time that a D3 college would get here in the state.  I will give you K for the post as it was thoughtful and maybe a good idea but in practicality dont' think it would make a difference.

Oh, believe me, I know as well as the next guy that Coe wouldn't get a week's worth of coverage like what the CR media outlets would do if Iowa brought in a new coach.  But its all a matter of visibility.  How do you make sure recruits and alums know there's a new coach if the story about it is buried on page 6 because pages 1-4 are full of state basketball stories and scores?  
I'm probably vastly overthinking this whole thing.  Maybe I've been watching too many West Wing reruns lately.

[Purple Heys]

Another hang up...Coe won't pay for Heys Jr.'s tuition at Cornell.

[Confused77]

I would think they may want to get the hire completed this week or early next week, considering Coe is helping to host the D3 National Wrestling Tourney, March 7-8th. I would imagine a lot of time and effort is being put towards that event here in the next 2 weeks.

[Walston Hoover]

Another hang up...Coe won't pay for Heys Jr.'s tuition at Cornell.

Are you sure? I thought there was tuition deals amongst pretty much all the schools in the IIAC?

[doolittledog]

Another hang up...Coe won't pay for Heys Jr.'s tuition at Cornell.

Are you sure? I thought there was tuition deals amongst pretty much all the schools in the IIAC?

It has been more than a few years since I have been in school but I knew a kid that went to UD as a freshman and then transferred to Loras after his mom got a job there because then he could take advantage of the free education thing.  He couldn't get that while still at UD even though they had the tri-college deal set up then where you could take classes at either of the 3 schools.  I knew 2 kids that were aviation majors but were Loras students. 

[Alfredeneumann]

Tuition breaks for employees, something I know something about. At this time all of the conference school belong to the Tuition Exchange benefit group. Some of the participating schools waive tuition, some credit what tuition is at the school where you work. Ie I work @ school A tuition is $25k. My kid wants to go to school B, where tuition is $28K, I would have to pay $3k in tuition + room and board AND my child would have to be accept by normal application process. Most academic scholarships can NOT be applied to Room + board.
BUT there are some reasons why my kid would not be allowed to school B. If A has more going out then coming in. Some schools do NOT give tuition exchange for the first year. While it's a great benefit you have to be careful too. I will save 8 years (2 kids- 4years each) worth of tuition by working here. We guestimate after scholarships that my kids would have gotten we'll be ahead $100K.

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