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doolittledog

Budget wise 1 game per week would probably make more sense.  You could also take the time to promote it as opposed to showing all the games.  Maybe for football work it that each school gets shown twice per season.  Once at home and once away.  

You might get away with 1 game shown live and then maybe other games shown on tape delay later in the week.  But I wouldn't think it was a bad idea to have none shown live, for the reasons DF2K4 brought up.

As a side note, my family had Hawkeye season tickets for years.  In 2006 we had endzone seats that were $48 per ticket.  When my dad and I went to the Cornell game last year we spent $5 on some brats at the local grocery store.  After we couldn't locate Purple Heys at the tailgate we headed off to Chameleons where we both had a beer and a burger basket and the total was $20.  Two tickets cost $12 and two hot chocolates and a bag of popcorn totalled $4.  After the game we spent $7 at a drive through capaccino place.  Total was $48...the same amount that would have got us 1 ticket to the Hawkeye game.  To top it off we got home from this 1pm kickoff in Mt. Vernon at the same time we would have got home from the 11am kickoff in Iowa City.  Now, I still love the Hawkeyes but our eyes were opened up again to the joys of watching D3 football last year.  If we could get the word out there to people the joys of D3 football by getting some games on Mediacom or IPTV or what have you I think it would go a long way to helping out our local D3 schools.  

The one bad thing I can think of is that if we had had this in place last year I would have had to endure DF2K4 constantly reminding me the air dates of the replays of the Central/UD game  ;D ;D ;D

Old Dutch

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on February 28, 2008, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: KCDutch on February 28, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Walston Hoover on February 28, 2008, 12:11:57 PM
11,500 in 1977 at 3% inflation is equal to about 28k today.
Is that how much tuition was at Wartburg in 1977?  I have know idea, but curious.

I do know this, Central's was approx. $16,000 in 1996.  In 2008 it is $31,950, increasing at 5.9325% which is a little higher than 3%.

I think you will find that college has out paced inflation every year.  I know I am getting old and I am not as skilled finding these facts on the net.  I am only going by memory.


If my foggy memory serves me right Central was just over $3K in 1976, nearly doubled by the time I graduated.  Had a total of $10K in student loans, hardly onthe radar with today's costs.  Seems its kinda like health care, don't want the WalMart of Dr.s or degrees, so everyone's willing to pay more. 
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

Old Dutch

This is a very lazy Friday afternoon at work, too much sunshine and too little concentration.  You guys sure have put up lots of intersting conversations.  Love the idea of the Iowa Conference Netowrk, maybe we need to talk to the folks that did the Iowa High School Sports Network and hitch a ride with them.  I also agree with DF04, these  DI athletes and their spoiled programs may be entertaining, but give me a good competitive game at any level and I'm entertained, don't need to watch convicts to do it.
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

Old Dutch

Doolittle's right, anymore than 1 game a week probably woduln't fly.  Get the other media outlets to get some attention to the DIII games and the'd become more popular, The Register does Central and Simpson features on occassion, I assume the Gazette does Coe and Cornell, while we'll see Wartburg featured a couple times a season in Waterloo.

We need a sportswriter in each market to do a DIII feature once a week.  Create more name recognition for these guys instead of the trial dockets in Iowa City and we'd generate more interest.
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

Purple Heys

#13144
In San Diego, we have the Prep Pigskin Report every Friday night at 11:00PM.  They cover every game in San Diego county.  It is done on a local station KUSI.  The thing is the excitement and energy of the broadcast team that puts it together.  Maybe you could start with a wrap up show "This week in the Iowa Conference" with highlights and interviews and play of the week votes from online...gets website hits ...draw advertisement opportunity.

Our local cable channel, KOCT puts a several games on the public access cable of the 2 Oceanside schools.  All this stoked interest so that Cox Channel 4 (the Padres' Flagship station) now broadcasts in HD one High School game per week.  Locally, it's a big hit.  We are watching our kids...on TV!

My suggestion is that this be made into "Iowa's College Network"...something uniquely your own..."your" boys playing the game we all love, for the right reasons, without the scandals and crap that seems to permeate Big Time D-1 football these days.  The appeal is that the football game and the appeal of mostly Iowa kids competing at a high level.

But getting the camera's there requires someone with some 'nads.  The ratings will be low to start.  But with the quality and competitive play there will be an audience with folks that can identify with the kid next door playing ON TV!

Years ago nobody...NOBODY, heard of the Great Alaskan Shootout.  Then ESPN put cameras there.  Now it's preseason staple.   UCSB got on the map on Big Monday.. are you kidding me Basketball on the West Coast on Monday...but it found an audience.

C'mon...Central-DBQ OT last year...any Central-Wartburg game...even a Coe/Cornell rivalry game...good stroies to tell behind each of those games and good football to justify a look-see.
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

Old Dutch

Maybe Pat and KMack could get into youtube like videos!  KCCI has this new highschool playbook.com where kids submit videos, lets see if D3football.com can get an army of volunteers to shoot video and submit to the guys at d3 - come on lets run with this!
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

DutchFan2004

I think an appealing thing would be that every team had to be on once during the year.  Cornell being that they have been winless would still benefit.  Maybe the IIAC could consider this in scheduling like not making Central and Wartburg play the same date as Cornell/Coe.  I think the oldest rivalry game could have some interest.  I think then if it is done correctly you might even be able to sell it to like CSTV as a rerun filler.  I don't know who to talk to.  Maybe we should all think about investing and market this ourselves.  Maybe this is the ticket out of our jobs and then we can all retire next door to Purple Heys.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Play with Passion  Coach Ron Schipper

Old Dutch

joke time from my email

I know some of you are in education, but probably not this old yet:


The children had all been photographed, and the teacher was trying
to persuade them each to buy a copy of the group picture. "Just think
how nice it will be to look at it when you are all grown up and say,
"There's Jennifer; she's a lawyer,' or "That's Michael, he's a doctor.'"
A small voice at the back of the room rang out, "And there's the
teacher. She's dead."
61 consecutive seasons without a losing season
IIAC/ARC champs 39, 45, 46, 56, 64, 65, 66, 67, 74, 77, 78, 81, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
NCAA Playoffs 74, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 19, 21
Stagg Bowls 74, 84, 89
National Champs 1974

CaliRamRL6

Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2008, 04:21:56 PM
In San Diego, we have the Prep Pigskin Report every Friday night at 11:00PM.  They cover every game in San Diego county.  It is done on a local station KUSI.  The thing is the excitement and energy of the broadcast team that puts it together.  Maybe you could start with a wrap up show "This week in the Iowa Conference" with highlights and interviews and play of the week votes from online...gets website hits ...draw advertisement opportunity.

Our local cable channel, KOCT puts a several games on the public access cable of the 2 Oceanside schools.  All this stoked interest so that Cox Channel 4 (the Padres' Flagship station) now broadcasts in HD one High School game per week.  Locally, it's a big hit.  We are watching our kids...on TV!

My suggestion is that this be made into "Iowa's College Network"...something uniquely your own..."your" boys playing the game we all love, for the right reasons, without the scandals and crap that seems to permeate Big Time D-1 football these days.  The appeal is that the football game and the appeal of mostly Iowa kids competing at a high level.

But getting the camera's there requires someone with some 'nads.  The ratings will be low to start.  But with the quality and competitive play there will be an audience with folks that can identify with the kid next door playing ON TV!

Years ago nobody...NOBODY, heard of the Great Alaskan Shootout.  Then ESPN put cameras there.  Now it's preseason staple.   UCSB got on the map on Big Monday.. are you kidding me Basketball on the West Coast on Monday...but it found an audience.

C'mon...Central-DBQ OT last year...any Central-Wartburg game...even a Coe/Cornell rivalry game...good stroies to tell behind each of those games and good football to justify a look-see.

The Prep Pigskin Report was (and still is) the best show for high school football that I've seen. Nevermind my SoCal bias. Every player made sure they saw that before they went to whatever party was goin on that night.

Heys, does KOCT do Vista HS games too?

DutchFan2004

11 weeks in a season you could see every team at least twice I would think.  That would give every team a good look.  Some teams would have three games.  If there are 4 good teams in the conference (meaning in the running for the championship)  that would be three games of the week.  Toss in the rivalry games like Coe/Cornell, Wartburg/Luther, Central/Simpson, Loras/UD thats seven games.  I think it could work possibly.  This sounds like big fun.
Play with Passion  Coach Ron Schipper

Klopenhiemer

Quote from: Purple Heys on February 29, 2008, 04:21:56 PM
In San Diego, we have the Prep Pigskin Report every Friday night at 11:00PM.  They cover every game in San Diego county.  It is done on a local station KUSI.  The thing is the excitement and energy of the broadcast team that puts it together.  Maybe you could start with a wrap up show "This week in the Iowa Conference" with highlights and interviews and play of the week votes from online...gets website hits ...draw advertisement opportunity.

Our local cable channel, KOCT puts a several games on the public access cable of the 2 Oceanside schools.  All this stoked interest so that Cox Channel 4 (the Padres' Flagship station) now broadcasts in HD one High School game per week.  Locally, it's a big hit.  We are watching our kids...on TV!

My suggestion is that this be made into "Iowa's College Network"...something uniquely your own..."your" boys playing the game we all love, for the right reasons, without the scandals and crap that seems to permeate Big Time D-1 football these days.  The appeal is that the football game and the appeal of mostly Iowa kids competing at a high level.

But getting the camera's there requires someone with some 'nads.  The ratings will be low to start.  But with the quality and competitive play there will be an audience with folks that can identify with the kid next door playing ON TV!

Years ago nobody...NOBODY, heard of the Great Alaskan Shootout.  Then ESPN put cameras there.  Now it's preseason staple.   UCSB got on the map on Big Monday.. are you kidding me Basketball on the West Coast on Monday...but it found an audience.

C'mon...Central-DBQ OT last year...any Central-Wartburg game...even a Coe/Cornell rivalry game...good stroies to tell behind each of those games and good football to justify a look-see.

Heys, I like what you are saying with the Iowa College Network.  This could showcase all of our atheletics.  The IIAC has some pretty good bball and very good wrestling.  This would appeal to all high school age kids, who are thinking about moving onto the next level. 

I think as The One had mentioned it would be very important to have a large student impact on this.  This could be a heck of a learning tool/education experience for those in the broadcast journalism type majors.  Think about getting to do live broadcasts seen all over the state while you are in college.  This would also give kids a huge advantage when they are applying for jobs. 

Think about walking int KCCI for an interview and being able to say that you have 2 years of on air experience, and 2 years of behind the scenes experience.  This could also open the doors to large enrollments, which mean more tuition dollars, which means more alumni, which mean larger endowments. 

Think about recruiting.  This would be a great thing for the IIAC coaches to have in their back pocket, and sway those recruits back away from other schools. 
"If Rome was built in a day, then we would have hired their contractor"

oldNorse

So with all this video/telecast talk, who's going to DO anything besides talk?

doolittledog

Quote from: oldNorse on February 29, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
So with all this video/telecast talk, who's going to DO anything besides talk?

I'm thinking there are some somewhat recent college grads of IIAC schools with some sort of media degree that are running things through in their head RIGHT now!!!

I suppose an email to the IIAC offices wouldn't be a bad idea.  Maybe we could put our heads together to draft some sort of email to them. 

Walston did say he would talk to someone he knows at IPTV, so maybe that will have to do. 

Walston Hoover

The best way for this to be done is to have a group of students, possibly as an independent study, put together a proposal for how this would work. It would involve someone with a lot more time than any of us here have. Cheapest way to do it would be local cable access channels.
Oh, and you guys from SoCal, KWWL in Waterloo has, or at least had, many years ago the best HSDB show in the history of the world.
FRIDAY NIGHT HEROES. The open for that show was one of the coolest opens of any show I have ever  seen.

Coe's coaching search starts over.
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

DutchFan2004

Quote from: Walston Hoover on February 29, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
The best way for this to be done is to have a group of students, possibly as an independent study, put together a proposal for how this would work. It would involve someone with a lot more time than any of us here have. Cheapest way to do it would be local cable access channels.
Oh, and you guys from SoCal, KWWL in Waterloo has, or at least had, many years ago the best HSDB show in the history of the world.
FRIDAY NIGHT HEROES. The open for that show was one of the coolest opens of any show I have ever  seen.

Coe's coaching search starts over.


Second that.  KWWL was the best as far as I know.  They still have it.  WOI in Ames does a decent job of it in Central Iowa. 
Play with Passion  Coach Ron Schipper