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Klopenhiemer

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on March 12, 2008, 07:17:18 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on March 12, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on March 12, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
There are million things to say about the sportsmanship issue.  I don't think it will die soon as we all like to crack a joke about it.  I just stopped a post and thought about it so I didn't post it. 


I think Staker will do a good job.  I think there will be some growing for him.  Will he be able to delegate things.  I think there are some coaches that do well with this.  I agree with Doolittle getting an OC to handle the play calling is key.  If he keeps handling the D that is.  Maybe he will need a DC as he will take over the offense.  Time will tell but I see Coe staying about the 3-5 spot in the conference now but look at how things turned out at Drake this year.  Picked 9th in the conference and 6th (by Keno himself).  Stranger things have happened and mayge Coe will be in the hunt for an IIAC crown or playoff birth. 

Personally, I think Staker could be a great front man.  Look at all his connections and his tenure pertaining to IA football in general. 

If he can position himself with the right OC, DC, and special teams coordinator, his life will be good.  A lot of people have said things about the fact that he is 65 years old.  Has anyone thought that it might be comforting to parrents to be sending their kids to an established man?  Not to discredit young coaches, but maybe just mabye he can play the grandfather/mentor role and have it be effective. 

Call me crazy but I think its more important for young men to learn from older established people that have been through the rigors of life, rather than from some young hot shot still making his way.  This is also coming from a young man, I just generally respect my elders!


That may appeal to some players may appeal more to parents, but think of this Klop.  Players want to play the game age may be a negative to some as they may see him as being outdated not modern not hip or up on all the current offenses and defences.  Many teens see their parents as not knowing things and old and out dated.  They may see Coach Staker this way.  Ever here the saying that the older kids get the smarter their parents are.  We do not get smarter but the kids mature.  Coach Staker may indeed be up on all these things but some kids for whatever reason may see him as a dinosaur (not that he is)

I think you are right on DF2K4.  My perspective most likely does not match my age.  I am the type of guy, who would rather talk the old dog in the corner, or play for the old dog, because he has seen it all.  One reason I had enjoyed being around the DC at BV.  The man was 60+, he had a 1000 one liners, but was good at leading a person in the right direction.  I never fit the "hipster" crowd or though that way.  But that being said, your point is very valid and I think it could in the end cost Coe. 
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The Show

Quote from: Klopenhiemer on March 12, 2008, 08:19:29 PM
One reason I had enjoyed being around the DC at BV.  The man was 60+, he had a 1000 one liners, but was good at leading a person in the right direction.  I never fit the "hipster" crowd or though that way.

One of the main reasons I decided to attend BV.  I think the world of him and he didn't even coach my side of the ball!
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Walston Hoover

We can do what we want about trying to get more Iowa Conference coverage in Central Iowa, but its not going to change. I live next door to Andy Fales and I know he gets several emails from UNI people around here and they rarely cover UNI unless something VERY good or VERY bad happens. The same is true with anyone else in the IIAC besides Central or Simpson, and now Grand View next year. There may be kids on other rosters around the state, but anyone who cares how those kids are doing is either going to the games or knows someone who did to find out how the game went.
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New Storm

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Quote from: Klopenhiemer on March 12, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on March 12, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
There are million things to say about the sportsmanship issue.  I don't think it will die soon as we all like to crack a joke about it.  I just stopped a post and thought about it so I didn't post it. 


I think Staker will do a good job.  I think there will be some growing for him.  Will he be able to delegate things.  I think there are some coaches that do well with this.  I agree with Doolittle getting an OC to handle the play calling is key.  If he keeps handling the D that is.  Maybe he will need a DC as he will take over the offense.  Time will tell but I see Coe staying about the 3-5 spot in the conference now but look at how things turned out at Drake this year.  Picked 9th in the conference and 6th (by Keno himself).  Stranger things have happened and mayge Coe will be in the hunt for an IIAC crown or playoff birth. 


Personally, I think Staker could be a great front man.  Look at all his connections and his tenure pertaining to IA football in general. 

If he can position himself with the right OC, DC, and special teams coordinator, his life will be good.  A lot of people have said things about the fact that he is 65 years old.  Has anyone thought that it might be comforting to parrents to be sending their kids to an established man?  Not to discredit young coaches, but maybe just mabye he can play the grandfather/mentor role and have it be effective. 

Call me crazy but I think its more important for young men to learn from older established people that have been through the rigors of life, rather than from some young hot shot still making his way.  This is also coming from a young man, I just generally respect my elders!


Jim Williams did a great job recruiting at Simpson & he was not young. Also won't Stakers son run either the o or d  ????

DutchFan2004

Quote from: The Show on March 12, 2008, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on March 12, 2008, 08:19:29 PM
One reason I had enjoyed being around the DC at BV.  The man was 60+, he had a 1000 one liners, but was good at leading a person in the right direction.  I never fit the "hipster" crowd or though that way.

One of the main reasons I decided to attend BV.  I think the world of him and he didn't even coach my side of the ball!


Don't get me wrong I am not saying that men of age do not relate or can not influence recruits.  I am just saying that young men look at us dads as not being in the know and this may be their attitude with other older men.  They may see younger coaches as being in the know.  Each player is an individual and will be influenced differently.  So Staker may have some ins and some outs.  I do think that parents would feel comfortable with the older man taking the fatherly/grandfatherly position in their son's life.  I do not think that it will be looked on by the players the same way.  I do agree with Klop and The Show that some old men have good rapport with players.  That is important too.  After visiting the MIAC board I can see why Coach Ghalardi (sp) has had so much success.  He has a million one liners and is very personable.  I think Hayden Fry was the same way. 
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Charlie Kohawk

It appears I have some catching up to do on recent chatter, but first I have to say this: anyone who has ever spent five minutes with Steve Staker knows he's going to succeed at Coe. His age is a non-issue. I don't care how much of a bad-ass, know-it-all high school kid you are, you'll either want to play for this man or you didn't belong at Coe in the first place.
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Charlie Kohawk

Ok, so I didn't have as much catching up to do as I thought. How is it possible that I find myself agreeing with Klopenheimer, Dutchfan2004 and...wait for it... Walston Hoover all at once?!
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footballdaddy

Quote from: Walston Hoover on March 12, 2008, 08:42:45 PM
We can do what we want about trying to get more Iowa Conference coverage in Central Iowa, but its not going to change. I live next door to Andy Fales and I know he gets several emails from UNI people around here and they rarely cover UNI unless something VERY good or VERY bad happens. The same is true with anyone else in the IIAC besides Central or Simpson, and now Grand View next year. There may be kids on other rosters around the state, but anyone who cares how those kids are doing is either going to the games or knows someone who did to find out how the game went.

I've got to call you out fot that. This attitude is why there is no IIAC coverage in central Iowa. If we keep consistent pressure on for more coverage, eventually we'll get it. Ask Mr. Fales that if 25% of the e mails he receives in a week are about a certain sports subject, wouldn't he at least mention it? Why is there talk of contacting IPTV about a tape delay of football games if there is no hope of getting one on? If everyone on this board spent five minutes a week sending out a couple of e mails or letters to the editor, eventually someone would acknowledge that there is a demand for coverage. Let's don't admit defeat before we give it our best shot.  
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sc_stormchaser

Quote from: New Storm on March 12, 2008, 09:45:01 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on March 12, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on March 12, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
There are million things to say about the sportsmanship issue.  I don't think it will die soon as we all like to crack a joke about it.  I just stopped a post and thought about it so I didn't post it. 


I think Staker will do a good job.  I think there will be some growing for him.  Will he be able to delegate things.  I think there are some coaches that do well with this.  I agree with Doolittle getting an OC to handle the play calling is key.  If he keeps handling the D that is.  Maybe he will need a DC as he will take over the offense.  Time will tell but I see Coe staying about the 3-5 spot in the conference now but look at how things turned out at Drake this year.  Picked 9th in the conference and 6th (by Keno himself).  Stranger things have happened and mayge Coe will be in the hunt for an IIAC crown or playoff birth. 


Personally, I think Staker could be a great front man.  Look at all his connections and his tenure pertaining to IA football in general. 

If he can position himself with the right OC, DC, and special teams coordinator, his life will be good.  A lot of people have said things about the fact that he is 65 years old.  Has anyone thought that it might be comforting to parrents to be sending their kids to an established man?  Not to discredit young coaches, but maybe just mabye he can play the grandfather/mentor role and have it be effective. 

Call me crazy but I think its more important for young men to learn from older established people that have been through the rigors of life, rather than from some young hot shot still making his way.  This is also coming from a young man, I just generally respect my elders!


Jim Williams did a great job recruiting at Simpson & he was not young. Also won't Stakers son run either the o or d  ????

Yes, Williams was an excellent recruiter, but the younger assistant coaches carried a lot of the weight. During my senior year of high school, Coach Williams visited me at school and I talked to him when I visited campus. I saw him as being a grandpa...I really couldn't relate to him. The assistant coach recruiting me was the person I felt most comfortable with during the recruitment process. He was in his early 30s and I felt like I could talk to him about anything. I believe Williams was in his early 70s when he retired.

the_mayne_event

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Quote from: DutchFan2004 on March 12, 2008, 05:06:16 PM



I think you are right on DF2K4.  My perspective most likely does not match my age.  I am the type of guy, who would rather talk the old dog in the corner, or play for the old dog, because he has seen it all.  One reason I had enjoyed being around the DC at BV.  The man was 60+, he had a 1000 one liners, but was good at leading a person in the right direction.  I never fit the "hipster" crowd or though that way.  But that being said, your point is very valid and I think it could in the end cost Coe. 



after a kid would talk with staker, he would know he isnt dated.  he may be old, but he doesnt necessarly act his age i guess, for lack of a better term.
as far as the the o-coord job (it won't be steve staker, hes a defensive guy) im not sure yet (charlie), but i dont think it has been filled yet.
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doolittledog

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Quote from: Alfredeneumann on March 13, 2008, 12:01:34 PM
Good news for IIAC road trippers
Beitbachs have begun building new restaurant

http://gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080313/NEWS/903435892/1001/NEWS


What a great story.  Community members bringing food to the construction workers and the Amish volunteering the DAY AFTER the fire to put up the new frame for free.  Shows you how much love the local community had for Breitbachs. 

And in classic Dubuque county fashion...the one thing they were able to save from the fire was their liquor liscence  ;D

sportsknight

Quote from: Alfredeneumann on March 13, 2008, 12:01:34 PM
Good news for IIAC road trippers
Beitbachs have begun building new restaurant

http://gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080313/NEWS/903435892/1001/NEWS


Didn't figure it'd take them long.  Its a whole different ballgame with a place that's been open for 150 years.  If it was some new place that opened up 5 years ago, I bet they'd try to sell the land and cut their losses.  But there just can't be a Balltown without Breitbach's.  I mean that in two ways:  1.  The town would just seem irreparably different, and 2.  The tourism dollars that come from that place have probably been keeping Balltown (pop. 70) alive for a good long time.  Not much else to do in that town besides play baseball.
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warthog

Damn schedule makers.  >:( 

Wartburg plays Loras, Dubuque, and Luther at home this year.  :'(

I guess I'll have to make a special trip up to Balltown just to be sure the fried chicken and home made pies are as good as ever. ;D

BE ORANGE

warthog

This group always has an opinion on something.

Mrs. Warthog and I thought an Amtrak trip to the Northwest through the Rocky Mountains might be a nice vacation this year.  What I've discovered so far is that Amtrak isn't very customer friendly unless you are from outside the United States.  They have a great See America plan for people to get on and off as often as you would like over a 20 day period (I may be wrong on the # of days), but the hook is you can't be an American.  I asked the sales rep to repeat what she had said because I wasn't sure I understood.  As Americans we need to know exactly where we are going and when we are returning.  If I were German, Russian, Iranian or Congolese I could get on and off where ever and when ever I pleased.  That is nuts!

Any way, what I was wondering if any of you have had any experience with Amtrak and have any suggestions for me?
BE ORANGE