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[The Show]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it.

That's just cause you were a lineman!  You could have gone out and thrown the shot and then eat some nachos or a couple burgers after you're done like our throwers do... 

[TheOne89.1]

As of last night at 10:30pm I would have agreed with that statement.  But after taking an open mind to the game, it was pretty fun.  There is something to be said for watching competition. I love competion and could watch two people arm wrestle if something was on the line.  I have found myself watching the Olympic trails on TV.  Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it. 

You mean like a brand new Semi-Truck? 

"When I turn my hat around...it's like a switch"

[Klopenhiemer]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it.

That's just cause you were a lineman!  You could have gone out and thrown the shot and then eat some nachos or a couple burgers after you're done like our throwers do... 

Thats why I stopped throwing the shot after middle school.  I trying to stay under the mendoza line. 

[footballdaddy]

Except when Stallone said that, he sounded more like Charlie Brown's teacher!

[sportsknight]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it. 

I have to disagree with you here.  I love watching track, both in person and on TV.  Pretty odd statement from someone that could never run the 100 in less than 14 seconds, but its true.  I was on the edge of my seat yesterday when they showed Tyson Gay's wind-aided "world record" in the 100 from the Olympic Trials.  I'll grant you, some of the longer distance races like the 5k and the 10k can be a bit of a snoozer, but at least you know that when they get done running there will be a winner (as opposed to a 0-0 tie).

[Klopenhiemer]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it. 

I have to disagree with you here.  I love watching track, both in person and on TV.  Pretty odd statement from someone that could never run the 100 in less than 14 seconds, but its true.  I was on the edge of my seat yesterday when they showed Tyson Gay's wind-aided "world record" in the 100 from the Olympic Trials.  I'll grant you, some of the longer distance races like the 5k and the 10k can be a bit of a snoozer, but at least you know that when they get done running there will be a winner (as opposed to a 0-0 tie).

SK thanks for disagreeing with my personal tastes.  If we all felt the same way about track and field, the world would be a pretty boreing place. 

As I said in my statement, I love to watch competion.  When something is on the line such as birth to the Olympics, I have great interest in it.  Watching an indoor track meet at Madison Square Gardens on a Sunday afternoon sounds like a form of torture to me.  I'm glad it excites you though. 

Get off the 0-0 tie deal, as I have said earlier, I am not a soccer fan, but appreciated the experience.  One day if you ever get married you will be forced to go outside your box and might find an enjoyable experience where you thought one could not be had. 

[DutchFan2004]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it. 

I have to disagree with you here.  I love watching track, both in person and on TV.  Pretty odd statement from someone that could never run the 100 in less than 14 seconds, but its true.  I was on the edge of my seat yesterday when they showed Tyson Gay's wind-aided "world record" in the 100 from the Olympic Trials.  I'll grant you, some of the longer distance races like the 5k and the 10k can be a bit of a snoozer, but at least you know that when they get done running there will be a winner (as opposed to a 0-0 tie).

SK thanks for disagreeing with my personal tastes.  If we all felt the same way about track and field, the world would be a pretty boreing place. 

As I said in my statement, I love to watch competion.  When something is on the line such as birth to the Olympics, I have great interest in it.  Watching an indoor track meet at Madison Square Gardens on a Sunday afternoon sounds like a form of torture to me.  I'm glad it excites you though. 

Get off the 0-0 tie deal, as I have said earlier, I am not a soccer fan, but appreciated the experience.  One day if you ever get married you will be forced to go outside your box and might find an enjoyable experience where you thought one could not be had. 

That is very good advice about marriage.  You do have to have give and take if you want to stay married to the same person more than a couple of years.  As for the 0-0 tie I do agree with that sentiment some what.  I do find watching soccer sometimes exciting when they are not scoring but some matches I think I would rather watch paint dry.   

[footballdaddy]

Perhaps soccer would be better if they adopted rules like Aussie footie and allow points for coming close to the goal. I kind of miss that from ESPN's early days. Those blokes were crazy to risk their bodies like that.

I'm also warming up to men's lacrosse. It combines the best of soccer and hockey, with a little football thrown in with the added benefit of more scoring. The fact that yoy can hit you opponent with a stick is attractive too. 

[dutchfan1]

Perhaps soccer would be better if they adopted rules like Aussie footie and allow points for coming close to the goal. I kind of miss that from ESPN's early days. Those blokes were crazy to risk their bodies like that.

I'm also warming up to men's lacrosse. It combines the best of soccer and hockey, with a little football thrown in with the added benefit of more scoring. The fact that you can hit you opponent with a stick is attractive too. 

What? For real? That's awesome!

I've never gotten into soccer, hockey, lacrosse, curling.....I don't know the rules. I think that I really need to have an understanding of the way the game is played for me to enjoy it. I admit it -- I've been too lazy to learn or have someone teach me such things, so it's baseball and volleyball for me this summer.

[TheOne89.1]

Track and field is boreing as all get out to watch, but when there is something on the line I can not get a enough of it. 

I have to disagree with you here.  I love watching track, both in person and on TV.  Pretty odd statement from someone that could never run the 100 in less than 14 seconds, but its true.  I was on the edge of my seat yesterday when they showed Tyson Gay's wind-aided "world record" in the 100 from the Olympic Trials.  I'll grant you, some of the longer distance races like the 5k and the 10k can be a bit of a snoozer, but at least you know that when they get done running there will be a winner (as opposed to a 0-0 tie).

SK thanks for disagreeing with my personal tastes.  If we all felt the same way about track and field, the world would be a pretty boreing place. 

As I said in my statement, I love to watch competion.  When something is on the line such as birth to the Olympics, I have great interest in it.  Watching an indoor track meet at Madison Square Gardens on a Sunday afternoon sounds like a form of torture to me.  I'm glad it excites you though. 

Get off the 0-0 tie deal, as I have said earlier, I am not a soccer fan, but appreciated the experience.  One day if you ever get married you will be forced to go outside your box and might find an enjoyable experience where you thought one could not be had. 

I feel sorry for that poor gal.

[TheOne89.1]

Perhaps soccer would be better if they adopted rules like Aussie footie and allow points for coming close to the goal. I kind of miss that from ESPN's early days. Those blokes were crazy to risk their bodies like that.

I'm also warming up to men's lacrosse. It combines the best of soccer and hockey, with a little football thrown in with the added benefit of more scoring. The fact that you can hit you opponent with a stick is attractive too. 

What? For real? That's awesome!

I've never gotten into soccer, hockey, lacrosse, curling.....I don't know the rules. I think that I really need to have an understanding of the way the game is played for me to enjoy it. I admit it -- I've been too lazy to learn or have someone teach me such things, so it's baseball and volleyball for me this summer.

That can pretty much go for anything.  If you don't have an understanding of it or you don't follow it or you don't really pay attention to it, then it is tough for one to enjoy it.  That comes up a lot with Northwoods League baseball.  Lots of my friends enjoy watching MLB baseball and watching the Twins or Cubs or Brewers, but when I start talking Loggers or Waterloo Bucks, they all groan.  They don't know any of the players, and they don't see famous athletes, so they don't want to watch it.  Me on the other hand, I pay attention to who the athletes are, where they go to college and how they did at the CWS or during the season so when I go to a game I can enjoy it...maybe I will be able to say I watched him play before he was famous.

[DutchFan2004]

Perhaps soccer would be better if they adopted rules like Aussie footie and allow points for coming close to the goal. I kind of miss that from ESPN's early days. Those blokes were crazy to risk their bodies like that.

I'm also warming up to men's lacrosse. It combines the best of soccer and hockey, with a little football thrown in with the added benefit of more scoring. The fact that you can hit you opponent with a stick is attractive too. 

What? For real? That's awesome!

I've never gotten into soccer, hockey, lacrosse, curling.....I don't know the rules. I think that I really need to have an understanding of the way the game is played for me to enjoy it. I admit it -- I've been too lazy to learn or have someone teach me such things, so it's baseball and volleyball for me this summer.

That can pretty much go for anything.  If you don't have an understanding of it or you don't follow it or you don't really pay attention to it, then it is tough for one to enjoy it.  That comes up a lot with Northwoods League baseball.  Lots of my friends enjoy watching MLB baseball and watching the Twins or Cubs or Brewers, but when I start talking Loggers or Waterloo Bucks, they all groan.  They don't know any of the players, and they don't see famous athletes, so they don't want to watch it.  Me on the other hand, I pay attention to who the athletes are, where they go to college and how they did at the CWS or during the season so when I go to a game I can enjoy it...maybe I will be able to say I watched him play before he was famous.

I think this same sentiment can be said for D3 football to the general public.  The don't know what or where the school is, or the players involved.  They don't get the media coverage so they can not relate to it.  I would be willing to bet that if more people would attend a D3 game see what kind of football is played there they would more freely attend.  The cost of admission would have many young families attending as they can afford to take the whole family as opposed to two family members attending a single game.  Heck Doolittles youngest doesn't even cost yet does he?  When a family of 5-6 can get tickets for $30-$40 bucks that leaves a little left for some concessions as well.  Parking is free.  I believe the last Iowa game I attended was about $150 for two of us to attend by the time parking was figured in.  With the success lately of the Hawks it will not be any time soon I return to spend that kind of money to see them play.  Not when you can see an exciting game in the IIAC.

[doolittledog]

Perhaps soccer would be better if they adopted rules like Aussie footie and allow points for coming close to the goal. I kind of miss that from ESPN's early days. Those blokes were crazy to risk their bodies like that.

I'm also warming up to men's lacrosse. It combines the best of soccer and hockey, with a little football thrown in with the added benefit of more scoring. The fact that you can hit you opponent with a stick is attractive too. 

What? For real? That's awesome!

I've never gotten into soccer, hockey, lacrosse, curling.....I don't know the rules. I think that I really need to have an understanding of the way the game is played for me to enjoy it. I admit it -- I've been too lazy to learn or have someone teach me such things, so it's baseball and volleyball for me this summer.

That can pretty much go for anything.  If you don't have an understanding of it or you don't follow it or you don't really pay attention to it, then it is tough for one to enjoy it.  That comes up a lot with Northwoods League baseball.  Lots of my friends enjoy watching MLB baseball and watching the Twins or Cubs or Brewers, but when I start talking Loggers or Waterloo Bucks, they all groan.  They don't know any of the players, and they don't see famous athletes, so they don't want to watch it.  Me on the other hand, I pay attention to who the athletes are, where they go to college and how they did at the CWS or during the season so when I go to a game I can enjoy it...maybe I will be able to say I watched him play before he was famous.

I think this same sentiment can be said for D3 football to the general public.  The don't know what or where the school is, or the players involved.  They don't get the media coverage so they can not relate to it.  I would be willing to bet that if more people would attend a D3 game see what kind of football is played there they would more freely attend.  The cost of admission would have many young families attending as they can afford to take the whole family as opposed to two family members attending a single game.  Heck Doolittles youngest doesn't even cost yet does he?  When a family of 5-6 can get tickets for $30-$40 bucks that leaves a little left for some concessions as well.  Parking is free.  I believe the last Iowa game I attended was about $150 for two of us to attend by the time parking was figured in.  With the success lately of the Hawks it will not be any time soon I return to spend that kind of money to see them play.  Not when you can see an exciting game in the IIAC.

I'll jump in here on the cost thing.  My parents had season tickets to the Hawkeyes for years.  As they got older my mom went less and less so I ended up going more often than not with my dad.  2006 was the last year they got Hawkeye season tickets.  The cost added to the fact it was getting harder for my dad to have the energy for the entire day in Iowa City caused them to drop the tickets.  We had endzone seats so we didn't have to donate money but those were the cheapest tickets you could get and they were $48 per ticket.  We parked in a neighborhood yard we bought a season pass to for $15 per game.  Throw in probably 15 bucks for halftime refreshments and another 15 minimum for tailgating and you were over $130 for the day.  To top that off we were supposed to be at our tailgate 2 hours prior to kickoff so for an 11am game we left home at 7:30.  The game would end about 2:30 and we wouldn't leave our lot untill about 4pm.  Then get home about 6pm or so that night. 

Last fall my dad and I went to the UD game at Cornell.  We left home at about 10:30 and got there at 11:30 for the 1pm kickoff.  We stopped at the local grocery store and picked up some brats for 5 bucks.  After we couldn't find Purple Heys and his beer we headed up town and found Chameleons and both had beer and a burger basket and with tip we still got outta there for 20 bucks.  Parking was free by the way.  We got back to the stadium and tickets were 6 bucks each.  At half time we got 2 hot chocolates and a bag of popcorn for a total of 4 bucks.  No trafic jams meant we were out of the lot within probably 10 minutes of the final whistle.  Heading out of town we stopped for 2 coffees that cost us 7 bucks.  We were then home by 5:00.  We left 3 hours later, got home 1 hour earlier.  Had a great time (helped by a UD win) and spent 48 bucks...exactly what 1 Hawkeye ticket would have cost us. 

We will go to more Hawkeye games in the future.  But probably no more than 1 every couple of years now.  The beauty of D3 is I will be able to take my entire family...assuming they would all want to go that is!!!  I suspect I will at least get my son and dad out of the house most fall saturdays in the future. 

[DutchFan2004]

So for the price of one seat in the endzone you can take your whole family including your dad to a UD game is that correct?

[doolittledog]

So for the price of one seat in the endzone you can take your whole family including your dad to a UD game is that correct?

Just my dad and myself. 

We figured we spent $48 at the UD/Cornell game vs. we would have probably spent about $138 at the Hawkeye game that day.  So that was a savings of $90.  Not too shabby. 

Plus, next fall, our son will be 3 then.  We could take him and get him in free I would think.  And he could run around the track or behind the endzone and have fun.  If he was at a Hawkeye game he would be confined to a seat and I would suspect after a 3 1/2 hour game neither he, myself, nor anyone within about 3 rows of us would be very happy.  He has a lot of energy and sitting down and not seeing anything wouldn't be his idea of fun.  And it would cost me a heck of a lot more for the misery.