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TheOne89.1

Quote from: Klompen on July 16, 2008, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: davedevine on July 15, 2008, 10:22:38 PM
Great Article on the Central kid.  I can't really fathom going from 185-140 that quickly and then getting back to playing ball.  Pretty Impressive. 

Also, in regards to the argument on the PI.  Being an "expert" on such defensive calls, I concur that it was not a penalty.   ;D

Walston,  I noticed the big Financial Architects sign off of I-80 on my way back from CF. (I had never noticed that there before)   Is that the home office?  Is that where  Heying works out of?   Tell him I said hey next time you run into him.   

Storm, the meat head from big brother didn't play @ WB as far as I know. 
Devine, thanks for the kind words on the Central player and the accurate description of the BB Wartburg guy.  There's some hope for you yet.   :o :o

When I first saw the Wartburg shirt on BB, I thought, "Oh no, you just can't get away from WB, they are being orange everywhere!"   :'(  Just what we need, more WB time in the media.  Then again, as I have watched, I have been glad the guy wasn't wearing a Central shirt.  I realize they can edit the show to make anyone look good or bad, but thus far, I'm not sure the way he has been portrayed, allowing for the fact that he might not be the jerk it appears he is, it does not appear he is reflecting positively back on your alma mater. 

The thing is, I'm not sure if I want him to change or not.   :-* Part of me doesn't want him reflecting poorly on Iowa people, but part of me doesn't mind how he has "thus far" been reflecting on Wartburg.   ???

For some reason Jessie on Big Brother looks familiar, but I can't exactly put my finger on a sport I saw him play while at Wartburg or a class I may have had with him.  However, it is pretty cool to see 'Wartburg' on national TV although he is claiming Hollywood or something like that now as where he is from.  Looks like he moved out there to be a body builder.  Luckily, I think most of the viewers know not all people from Iowa or Wartburg are exactly like him. 

He looks to be one of the main competitors and probably will fare well in the physical competitions, got himself off the chopping block this week.  I will be cheering him on just like I cheered on the girl from Winona State last year.
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, He wouldn't have given us arms" -MIKE DITKA

LCNorse

Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 17, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
Norse will hudle this season

Yep...new offense, entirely new coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball...Defensive side coaching staff pretty much the same, however Durnin was the d-cordinator at UWL, so the defense will be more of what he ran there. Should be interesting to see how things work out...I'm curious do you think defenses are glad that the no huddle is gone...or do you think it really didn't affect their preperation to much?
"I always have to think about what's important in life to me are these three things. Where you started; where you are; and where you're gonna be." Jimmy V

doolittledog

How many teams in the IIAC have used the huddle much recently???  From listening to games on the internet it sounded like not many did anymore. 

the_mayne_event

Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 10:23:30 AM
How many teams in the IIAC have used the huddle much recently???  From listening to games on the internet it sounded like not many did anymore. 

Coe does.  Not sure if they will anymore after Reaburn is gone.

Quote from: LCNorse on July 17, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 17, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
Norse will hudle this season

Yep...new offense, entirely new coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball...Defensive side coaching staff pretty much the same, however Durnin was the d-cordinator at UWL, so the defense will be more of what he ran there. Should be interesting to see how things work out...I'm curious do you think defenses are glad that the no huddle is gone...or do you think it really didn't affect their preperation to much?

it wasnt a true "No Huddle".  They woudl line up and see what the defense was in, but the defense could always pick what they wanted to run after they chose their play.  it was basically like huddling up.  just a faster version.

With that being said, Coe's wasnt much of a no huddle either, except when we went with a more speedy approach -- would catch the defense off guard quite a bit after getting used to the slower no huddle.  it was also fun to have a fake play called to see what the defense was in, and then call a play accordingly.

it is an advantage, i think i remember Raeburn saying we ran like 20 more plays a game or something.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Football commentator and former player Joe Theismann

LCNorse

Quote from: the_mayne_event on July 17, 2008, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 10:23:30 AM
How many teams in the IIAC have used the huddle much recently???  From listening to games on the internet it sounded like not many did anymore. 

Coe does.  Not sure if they will anymore after Reaburn is gone.

Quote from: LCNorse on July 17, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 17, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
Norse will hudle this season

Yep...new offense, entirely new coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball...Defensive side coaching staff pretty much the same, however Durnin was the d-cordinator at UWL, so the defense will be more of what he ran there. Should be interesting to see how things work out...I'm curious do you think defenses are glad that the no huddle is gone...or do you think it really didn't affect their preperation to much?

it wasnt a true "No Huddle".  They woudl line up and see what the defense was in, but the defense could always pick what they wanted to run after they chose their play.  it was basically like huddling up.  just a faster version.

With that being said, Coe's wasnt much of a no huddle either, except when we went with a more speedy approach -- would catch the defense off guard quite a bit after getting used to the slower no huddle.  it was also fun to have a fake play called to see what the defense was in, and then call a play accordingly.

it is an advantage, i think i remember Raeburn saying we ran like 20 more plays a game or something.

Just from playing in the system I don't know how often a defense would change what it was running after we called the play. They usually didn't have time, because once the play was called we were going pretty much right after that...I definitly agree with you with the number of plays a game. It also really helped when you actually had to use the no huddle at the end of halves and games. You were used to running it so it wasn't really any different you just picked up the pace a little. I think there was some definite advantages to running it, but I'm sure so problems with it also...I enjoyed playing in it though
"I always have to think about what's important in life to me are these three things. Where you started; where you are; and where you're gonna be." Jimmy V

Kohawk Remedy

Quote from: LCNorse on July 17, 2008, 10:37:38 AM
Quote from: the_mayne_event on July 17, 2008, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 10:23:30 AM
How many teams in the IIAC have used the huddle much recently???  From listening to games on the internet it sounded like not many did anymore. 

Coe does.  Not sure if they will anymore after Reaburn is gone.

Quote from: LCNorse on July 17, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: 5 Words or Less on July 17, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
Norse will hudle this season

Yep...new offense, entirely new coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball...Defensive side coaching staff pretty much the same, however Durnin was the d-cordinator at UWL, so the defense will be more of what he ran there. Should be interesting to see how things work out...I'm curious do you think defenses are glad that the no huddle is gone...or do you think it really didn't affect their preperation to much?

it wasnt a true "No Huddle".  They woudl line up and see what the defense was in, but the defense could always pick what they wanted to run after they chose their play.  it was basically like huddling up.  just a faster version.

With that being said, Coe's wasnt much of a no huddle either, except when we went with a more speedy approach -- would catch the defense off guard quite a bit after getting used to the slower no huddle.  it was also fun to have a fake play called to see what the defense was in, and then call a play accordingly.

it is an advantage, i think i remember Raeburn saying we ran like 20 more plays a game or something.

Just from playing in the system I don't know how often a defense would change what it was running after we called the play. They usually didn't have time, because once the play was called we were going pretty much right after that...I definitly agree with you with the number of plays a game. It also really helped when you actually had to use the no huddle at the end of halves and games. You were used to running it so it wasn't really any different you just picked up the pace a little. I think there was some definite advantages to running it, but I'm sure so problems with it also...I enjoyed playing in it though

I'm goign to agree with TME on this issue.  The no-huddle type of offense does have its advantages because it is harder to get in D-Line subs when they either get tired or when you need to bring in an extra LB or DB for a specific package unless the offense subs a couple of WRs.  As for Coe, their no huddle isn't too much of a no huddle because the plays are sent in and then the WRs set up in different positions so most teams have time to react where the offense is setting up.  However, once the Coe offense ran what they call "fast ball" the defenses were slow to react and most times weren't lined up or ready for the play.  Which also has the disadvantage for the O-Line because they are 100% sure which guys to exactly block on the play when the D-Line and LBs are moving around trying to get set.  However, Coe didn't run a whole lot of "fast ball" which has a huge advantage when the defense gets tired and no expecting it.  I hope Coe runs a lot more of it this year!.

Walston Hoover

Quote from: Kohawk Remedy on July 17, 2008, 10:56:52 AM
[I'm goign to agree with TME on this issue.  The no-huddle type of offense does have its advantages because it is harder to get in D-Line subs when they either get tired or when you need to bring in an extra LB or DB for a specific package unless the offense subs a couple of WRs.  As for Coe, their no huddle isn't too much of a no huddle because the plays are sent in and then the WRs set up in different positions so most teams have time to react where the offense is setting up.  However, once the Coe offense ran what they call "fast ball" the defenses were slow to react and most times weren't lined up or ready for the play.  Which also has the disadvantage for the O-Line because they are 100% sure which guys to exactly block on the play when the D-Line and LBs are moving around trying to get set.  However, Coe didn't run a whole lot of "fast ball" which has a huge advantage when the defense gets tired and no expecting it.  I hope Coe runs a lot more of it this year!.
Really wore out the Knights having to run off the field after all those 3-and-outs.
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

doolittledog

Most IIAC schools have been putting money into athletic facilities.  From indoor track, to renovations to weight rooms and the gyms.  Also, most schools have installed field turf and reworked tracks.  Wartburg, Loras and UD have built new or renovated their stadiums.  Are there any other schools out there looking to build a new or at least do a major renovation of their stadium???  

Luther I wouldn't think would need to do anything to theirs, it's the biggest in the conference and is a beautiful setting for a football game.  BV seems to be in good shape as well.  I know Coe, Central and Simpson have recently installed field turf but are any of those schools looking at working on the seating at their places???  

Walston Hoover

Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
Most IIAC schools have been putting money into athletic facilities.  From indoor track, to renovations to weight rooms and the gyms.  Also, most schools have installed field turf and reworked tracks.  Wartburg, Loras and UD have built new or renovated their stadiums.  Are there any other schools out there looking to build a new or at least do a major renovation of their stadium???  

Luther I wouldn't think would need to do anything to theirs, it's the biggest in the conference and is a beautiful setting for a football game.  BV seems to be in good shape as well.  I know Coe, Central and Simpson have recently installed field turf but are any of those schools looking at working on the seating at their places???  
If anyone would be I would think Coe. No one else comes close to needing more seating at their place. Its not that Coe draws a ton, but the bleachers are TI-NAY. Wait a minute, they kind of look like a ba-bay. Come 'eer you. I'ma gonna eat you. GET IN MY BELLAY!
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

doolittledog

Quote from: Walston Hoover on July 17, 2008, 11:27:28 AM
Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
Most IIAC schools have been putting money into athletic facilities.  From indoor track, to renovations to weight rooms and the gyms.  Also, most schools have installed field turf and reworked tracks.  Wartburg, Loras and UD have built new or renovated their stadiums.  Are there any other schools out there looking to build a new or at least do a major renovation of their stadium???  

Luther I wouldn't think would need to do anything to theirs, it's the biggest in the conference and is a beautiful setting for a football game.  BV seems to be in good shape as well.  I know Coe, Central and Simpson have recently installed field turf but are any of those schools looking at working on the seating at their places???  
If anyone would be I would think Coe. No one else comes close to needing more seating at their place. Its not that Coe draws a ton, but the bleachers are TI-NAY. Wait a minute, they kind of look like a ba-bay. Come 'eer you. I'ma gonna eat you. GET IN MY BELLAY!

Remember Walston, you're on a diet!!!

Just from looking at pictures it looks like Central, Simpson and Coe could all add seating to their places.  Or at least something more than what look like portable metal bleachers. 

Walston Hoover

If they did it, it would be for asthetics.  No school needs more seating except for Coe.
When they tore down old Schield Stadium 7 years ago, the seating was *maybe* 1500.  Walston-Hoover is now 4000-4500.
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

doolittledog

Quote from: Walston Hoover on July 17, 2008, 12:06:05 PM
If they did it, it would be for asthetics.  No school needs more seating except for Coe.
When they tore down old Schield Stadium 7 years ago, the seating was *maybe* 1500.  Walston-Hoover is now 4000-4500.

Yeah, it would be for asthetics mainly.  From pictures I have seen of Central and Simpson they each looked like they had 3 seperate home bleacher sections and Coe had the 1 stand and then a whole bunch of little bleacher sections.  Whenever Coe has highlights on the local news it just looks like a bunch of people standing around the field.  I wonder if Central and Simpson might actually get crowds to rival Wartburg if they actually had better looking seating.  Plus I would think it would help recruiting a bit if it didn't look like most of the other schools had better facilities than you, even if the current seating capacity was adequate.  Of course Central has a pretty good argument that they are doing just fine thank you very much in the recruiting department!!!

From looking at pictures of Walston Hoover it looks like 15 rows in front of the press box and then 18 rows on the outside with a small away side bleacher seating.  How many rows did Schield have??? Is it really THAT much bigger than the old place???  I suppose the old stand could have held 1,500 and there was no away seating and now the new stand could hold 3,000 with 1,000 on the away side. 

the_mayne_event

Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: Walston Hoover on July 17, 2008, 12:06:05 PM
If they did it, it would be for asthetics.  No school needs more seating except for Coe.
When they tore down old Schield Stadium 7 years ago, the seating was *maybe* 1500.  Walston-Hoover is now 4000-4500.

Yeah, it would be for asthetics mainly.  From pictures I have seen of Central and Simpson they each looked like they had 3 seperate home bleacher sections and Coe had the 1 stand and then a whole bunch of little bleacher sections.  Whenever Coe has highlights on the local news it just looks like a bunch of people standing around the field.  I wonder if Central and Simpson might actually get crowds to rival Wartburg if they actually had better looking seating.  Plus I would think it would help recruiting a bit if it didn't look like most of the other schools had better facilities than you, even if the current seating capacity was adequate.  Of course Central has a pretty good argument that they are doing just fine thank you very much in the recruiting department!!!

From looking at pictures of Walston Hoover it looks like 15 rows in front of the press box and then 18 rows on the outside with a small away side bleacher seating.  How many rows did Schield have??? Is it really THAT much bigger than the old place???  I suppose the old stand could have held 1,500 and there was no away seating and now the new stand could hold 3,000 with 1,000 on the away side. 

the people standing aroudn the field are generally students.  a majority of hte students sit/stand in the north endzone to get closer to the action, and probably so their voices can be heard.  it would be nice if coe put up some visiting stands (not the mobile ones they have now) and also some student seating in the endzones.  the bleacher seating they have now for the students is fine.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Football commentator and former player Joe Theismann

doolittledog

I always thought the atmosphere looked great at Coe.  It looks great to see the field surrounded by people.  I just wondered if there were a bit better facilities there and with the population of Cedar Rapids Coe could really turn out some big numbers. 

And for Central and Simpson, they seem to seat everybody that shows up.  They are just starting to look a little behind the times.  And this coming from a guy that loves Wrigley field, Fenway Park, and hopes the Hawkeyes never leave Kinnick!!!

Klompen

Quote from: doolittledog on July 17, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
I wonder if Central and Simpson might actually get crowds to rival Wartburg if they actually had better looking seating.  Plus I would think it would help recruiting a bit if it didn't look like most of the other schools had better facilities than you, even if the current seating capacity was adequate.  Of course Central has a pretty good argument that they are doing just fine thank you very much in the recruiting department!!!
Central has it in the master plan to renovate the stadium, but I think it is a longer range plan.  This year they are adding a new education/psychology building and renovating one of the residence halls.  Academics gets their turn at Central.   ;)  Eventually the plan is to build a new stadium opposite the current home bleachers for the home side and the current home stands will become visitor seating.  The plan is to have a nice area behind the top of the bleachers where they can serve meals tailgate style, have reunions, etc.  It sounds awesome, but I'm not sure how long before it comes to be a reality.