FB: American Rivers Conference

[Purple Heys]

From today's Los Angeles Times:

Whittier College prez wants to lower drinking law

Sharon D. Herzberger, the president of Whittier College, is one of 100 college leaders backing the Amethyst Initiative, launched last month to persuade lawmakers to lower the drinking age in the U.S. from 21 to 18.

Other signatories to the Amethyst Initiative:

President Robert A. Skotheim, Occidental College
President David W. Oxtoby, Pomona College

Where and when is the kegger?

OxyBob

Is anybody shocked by the lone IIAC Prez to sign...

Yep, Coe's own, President James R. Phifer.

8)

[the_mayne_event]

From today's Los Angeles Times:

Whittier College prez wants to lower drinking law

Sharon D. Herzberger, the president of Whittier College, is one of 100 college leaders backing the Amethyst Initiative, launched last month to persuade lawmakers to lower the drinking age in the U.S. from 21 to 18.

Other signatories to the Amethyst Initiative:

President Robert A. Skotheim, Occidental College
President David W. Oxtoby, Pomona College

Where and when is the kegger?

OxyBob

Is anybody shocked by the lone IIAC Prez to sign...

Yep, Coe's own, President James R. Phifer.

8)

The Phif-dog knows whats up

[Kohawk Remedy]

From today's Los Angeles Times:

Whittier College prez wants to lower drinking law

Sharon D. Herzberger, the president of Whittier College, is one of 100 college leaders backing the Amethyst Initiative, launched last month to persuade lawmakers to lower the drinking age in the U.S. from 21 to 18.

Other signatories to the Amethyst Initiative:

President Robert A. Skotheim, Occidental College
President David W. Oxtoby, Pomona College

Where and when is the kegger?

OxyBob

Is anybody shocked by the lone IIAC Prez to sign...

Yep, Coe's own, President James R. Phifer.

8)

Alright...Phifdawg is the man! stoggies all around!

[Kohawk Remedy]

Is anybody shocked by the lone IIAC Prez to sign...

Yep, Coe's own, President James R. Phifer.

8)

Alright...Phifdawg is the man! stoggies all around!

The more I looked into the website, I did happen to see a familiar face...wartburg's ex-president Jack Ohle, Gustavus Adolphus College

[Purple Heys]

I agree that Cornell will have a difficult time on the O-line. The O-line helped them move the ball regardless of who was behind center last season. They lost two arguably good receivers in Youngblood and Krogmann.

The defense will probably be the one thing that will shine for Cornell, and keep them in a few games.

As far as Dallas, will they make him a pocket passer, option QB, or both?

I think they should watch some DBQ film on the deployment of the recently graduated Jermar Jackson.  Making him a Pass-Run threat...of course that comes with increased risk of injury, which the Rams can ill afford.

I agree that Krogmann (Kudos for Krogmann!) and Youngblood were quality players and they will be missed but I think that players like Struble, Campbell and Tierney, among others, can step in a be productive.  I also hope to see them work Jr. into the mix more as his size and perhaps the attention he may draw over the middle, could help those on the outside.

Not getting much run around here yet is RB Hardman.  While his OL is a key to his success.  I look for Tra to put up some numbers.  He is athletic and extraordinarily strong for his size.  Plus he has the speed to break long ones.  But as stated the OL will need to produce...it's all about them Hogs.

I think the "O" has some legitimate weapons.

[doolittledog]

From today's Los Angeles Times:

Whittier College prez wants to lower drinking law

Sharon D. Herzberger, the president of Whittier College, is one of 100 college leaders backing the Amethyst Initiative, launched last month to persuade lawmakers to lower the drinking age in the U.S. from 21 to 18.

Other signatories to the Amethyst Initiative:

President Robert A. Skotheim, Occidental College
President David W. Oxtoby, Pomona College

Where and when is the kegger?

OxyBob

Is anybody shocked by the lone IIAC Prez to sign...

Yep, Coe's own, President James R. Phifer.

8)

I guess that answers the question of "which is the best party school in the IIAC???"   

[Purple Heys]

I agree that Cornell will have a difficult time on the O-line. The O-line helped them move the ball regardless of who was behind center last season. They lost two arguably good receivers in Youngblood and Krogmann.

The defense will probably be the one thing that will shine for Cornell, and keep them in a few games.

As far as Dallas, will they make him a pocket passer, option QB, or both?

I think they should watch some DBQ film on the deployment of the recently graduated Jermar Jackson.  Making him a Pass-Run threat...of course that comes with increased risk of injury, which the Rams can ill afford.

I agree that Krogmann (Kudos for Krogmann!) and Youngblood were quality players and they will be missed but I think that players like Struble, Campbell and Tierney, among others, can step in a be productive.  I also hope to see them work Jr. into the mix more as his size and perhaps the attention he may draw over the middle, could help those on the outside.

Not getting much run around here yet is RB Hardman.  While his OL is a key to his success.  I look for Tra to put up some numbers.  He is athletic and extraordinarily strong for his size.  Plus he has the speed to break long ones.  But as stated the OL will need to produce...it's all about them Hogs.

I think the "O" has some legitimate weapons.

The guy we will miss the most on offense is Shane Eaglin '08...but fortunately he has stayed on as a GA, so I look for him to continue be a positive influence for the Rams.

[Storm-what?]

Good to be back now that it's football season. Been reading all summer but short of talking about tornadoes there hasn't been much to comment on.

Ok- it's football season and time for football talk but how could I pass this one up? I actually think I agree with the rankings they did-if they are considering academic reputation. I would put Luther ahead of Coe though and maybe even ahead of Cornell. And I think I'd put Central ahead of Wartburg. But clearly Wartburg's national athletic success increases the name of their brand, and it's hard to differentiate that from academic repuation from a national standpoint.

Doesn't it seem ironic that there is almost (I say that rather loosely) an inverse relationship with their rankings and the way the schools perform on the football field?

Here is an article I am sure will spark debate.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/94/opinions_college08_Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank.html

Forbes made a ranking of colleges.  569 in all I think.  I scanned it quickly so I might have missed some schools.

Cornell was tops for the IIAC coming in at 71.  Finishing higher than Cornell University at 121...also finishing higher than Notre Dame at 77, Johns Hopkins at 81, and Grinnell at 107!!!

Coe came in at 182
Luther at 188
Simpson at 241
Wartburg at 430
Central at 554

I didn't see Dubuque, Loras, or BV in there 



Hey!  We win one!

This the kind of spontaneous advertising that makes people!   

I am counting this as our first IIAC win of the season.

Can you feel it?  The momentum building is almost tangible.

I'm feeling it!

Is Heys Jr ready?

[MNbeev]

Great Cornell posting and good to have you on the Board.  I love the Cornell Faithfuls.  With regards to Cornell and Central having a new O-line and New QB/RB, none the less Central shouldn't have much problems keeping the winning tradition alive, they always have some one that will fill the shoes and be well at it.

Cornell having a new O-line in a wing-t is going to hurt them a little, yes they have been in the program and know their responsibilities and what to do, but I just don't see it being a dominate o-line.  Most D's in the IIAC are like TECN said don't over persue, most D's are tught to penetrate and upset the back field, which if it happens in a Wing-t it is pretty much a total cluster and you end up losing yards...  But I am no expert, I just tells it how it is.

Go beavers.  

The beavers by the way also have a new QB, and pretty much all returners on the D.  Big shoes to fill with the o-line and Line backers.

[Klopenhiemer]

Wow another banner day on the IIAC board.  

Is it customary to drop 7 karma points in two days?  Not that I really care, I just did not think that I ruffled that many feathers latley.  Who knows

TECN...Nice to have you on board and nice posts.  I think you made some great points about the Rams season to be.  

Jorge Mata looks like he could be a nice new player for the Beavers.  Lets hope he can show some of those moves on the field this season.  

With camp in full swing I can just about see the opening kickoff.  

BTW:  Lets keep those Cubbies rolling well into this fall.

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

Thanks a bunch Pat for fixing my displayed name!!!

I think they should watch some DBQ film on the deployment of the recently graduated Jermar Jackson.  Making him a Pass-Run threat...of course that comes with increased risk of injury, which the Rams can ill afford.

I agree that Krogmann (Kudos for Krogmann!) and Youngblood were quality players and they will be missed but I think that players like Struble, Campbell and Tierney, among others, can step in a be productive.  I also hope to see them work Jr. into the mix more as his size and perhaps the attention he may draw over the middle, could help those on the outside.

Not getting much run around here yet is RB Hardman.  While his OL is a key to his success.  I look for Tra to put up some numbers.  He is athletic and extraordinarily strong for his size.  Plus he has the speed to break long ones.  But as stated the OL will need to produce...it's all about them Hogs.

I think the "O" has some legitimate weapons.

I agree definitely that Bush would succeed in an offense similar to the run ran by Jackson last season, especially if the trio you listed is able to perform to a level close to the production of Youngblood and Krogmann.  I have hopes that they can do so, but that is one of the questions we'll just have to wait and see on once the season starts.  And they definately need to find a way to get the ball into the hands of your "Jr." more, I'm thinking they should split him out more, or put him in the slot against a linebacker, or even use him in ways Matt Ditch was during his reign at CC, though Jr. doesn't quite have the speed of Ditch.

Tra definitely has the potential to be the top running back in the league and he has continually improved in all facets of the game since his freshman season.  I was impressed at how well his blocking became last season, so let's hope that he can continue to make progress and limit his turnovers, as he sometimes seems to suffer from fumble-itis now and again.

Definately have got some guys who can make plays on offense when given the opportunity and placed in the right situation.  So while I have my doubts about how well the team will perform, there is definite potential to succeed.

[DutchFan2004]

Spoke to an incoming freshman at Central this weekend and was pretty upset to here this story. It sounds like Central has around 140 guys in camp, which seems pretty high, but the part that bothers/worries me is the fact that in this particular players recruitment he was told that they wouldn't have more then 115 to 120 guys on the team and that he would have plenty of reps in practice. I would hope that Central just had more people show up then they actually recruited, which is a very realistic possibility. From hearing from a few people some of the coaches on the staff were pretty upset with the numbers and felt they were to high. It seems like when you get up over 130 players, your opportunities in practice are very limited and some very good players can be looked over. Is this a case of over recruiting to keep players from other schools? I sure don't know, Central was always one of the best and classiest programs that I ever played against so I don't think that this was the case. Any word from anyone closer to the program on this?

I think that this is a residual effect of going undefeated for two years in a row and as deep into the playoffs as we did.  People want to play for a winning team and they also saw that there would be a lot of positions to be contested this year based on the number of graduating seniors from last season.  It all makes for a huge football recruiting class, even if that wasn't the number you were aiming for.  Given that every year is a recruiting battle in Iowa, no school is going to turn kids away if they want to come.

You have to remember that you recruit the players you want.  If you go after say 5 QBs how many of those players are also recruited?  I would be willing to bet that all 5 are recruited by some other team in the IIAC or other schools.  In D3 as stated here many times you never know who is really going to show up till they come to camp.  I think that having that many may be hard to coach but IMHO that is a good problem to have.  In years past (at least the last 4)  Central has used many WRs TEs LBS and such.  The travel squad most of those players got to see varsity PT.  At home there were  games that subs got varsity time that may not have been on the travel squad as well.  Then there is JV time for the underclassmen.  Also as stated on here there are as many as 5 or 10 guys that first week that see they are not cut out for the college game and quit.  Bringing in 50-60 freshman is a lot but when you consider that most schools only graduate 25-35 seniors on the football squad there is a lot of attrition.  Many reasons for this injuries, lack of PT, choose to not play FB.  I am sure that having the playoff success is some of the reason for all the numbers and I know that Coach McMartin will use those players as best he can and will find PT for those that earn it. 

[DutchFan2004]

UD PREVIEW UP

http://www.d3football.com/preview.php?id=1152&year=2008

Also just saw that we got Cornell for homecoming this year...is there any reasoning behind homecoming games? Or is it just random?

Central has Wartburg for homecoming.  First conference game of the season, early in the year, lots of new players, not a fluff game...What were the powers that be behind that one thinking?   

Chosing Wartburg as the homecoming game is an implied message, Wartburg is not the Central of the IIAC. Thats like walking a batter to an easier hitting, a lack of respect for Wartburg 

I think you must have forgot that little extra spirit that a homecoming game provides the players.  I think that picking a good team or top team in the conference is also a way to showcase your team to the alums.  If you wind up winning a big game like that it fires up the alums that may only come back for HC.  That may help get them there for more games as well. 

[oldNorse]

Sometime back somone put the Luther Norse at the bottom of the IIAC.  I guess I will agree with my coach, Edsel Schweizer:  1) Luther doesn't have a chance at winning.  2) Everyone in the IIAC is too strong for us.  3) All the other teams are better, bigger and faster than you are.  Check 1954-58.

[Purple Heys]

And they definately need to find a way to get the ball into the hands of your "Jr." more, I'm thinking they should split him out more, or put him in the slot against a linebacker, or even use him in ways Matt Ditch was during his reign at CC, though Jr. doesn't quite have the speed of Ditch.

On the flip side MD didn't have Jr.'s size, which leads to some interesting possibilities.

Ultimately, it comes down to how creatively one can find/make mismatches take advantage of those situations.

I know one thing, I am looking forward to this year.