FB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

In vegas it is I believe.

Okay I'll take your word on it, I always thought there were some NCAA sanctions or something, but I guess maybe that only applies to those involved.

I think the NCAA just might have a problem if they discover the starting QB for a team is making $1,000 bets on games he plays in.  But if some old arm-chair QB bets a case of beer that his alma mater beats up his neighbors alma mater...I doubt they care or would be able to do anything about it.  

[doolittledog]

I looked at who is hooked in to D3Football.com at the moment.

All IIAC folks.

Do we need to get a life or what?   

Holy smokes, there are a lot of us on right now!!!  The last few weeks I tend to stay down stairs after I take my walk and watch the olympics while I surf around on here.  Plus, the close to football season we get, the more I want to hang out on here!!!

[BeaverOfYore]

How?  The schools you mention have history and direct tribal knowledge within the state.  You can't just offer money...you could, but it's illegal...kids will come for the unique curriculum (Jr.'s reason) and the academic opportunity, but until the wins come in with the group we have, the football playing Iowa kid will likely make a football decision.

I bet if you polled a lot of former and current players, their number 1 response for coming to CC in the first place was because of the unique curriculum and the academic opportunity.  Football came second, and I believe that especially in DIII athletics this is the way that it should be.  But as I guess we have already pointed out, that is not always the case. 

I know that when I was looking at where to go to school, I was thrilled to have offers to play as high as the DII level, even though I was only offered scholarships to some NAIA programs.  I chose to go to Cornell because of the academic reputation and the possibilities I foresaw with unique class schedule, and just being able to play football and baseball came secondary.

I know that there are kids from out of state that know the history of the conference and who is a winner and all of that.  But I think it is much more likely that most of those out of states kids that are looking at out of state schools either:
1) Don't care about a programs history
or
2) Have no clue about the conference or who is a winner
I know when I played my first season I had no clue who any of the other schools were and often times had to ask who was good and who wasn't in the weeks leading up to games.  And I grew up just one state away from Iowa.  I know not all kids are the same, and thats what can make recruiting so difficult is knowing who to target and put your time and effort into.

I'm just glad that we most of us agree that Cornell isn't SOL because they only have 5 Iowans in their freshman class.  We have our issues, but I don't believe this to be one of them.

I think the people most likely to go to Cornell are the ones who trust the brochures and don't go for a visit (maybe that would explain all the players from afar).  Nothing against Cornell or its supporters on here, I just had a very bad experience visiting Cornell.

[Purple Heys]

Usain Bolt - Insane.

[Klopenhiemer]

In vegas it is I believe.

Okay I'll take your word on it, I always thought there were some NCAA sanctions or something, but I guess maybe that only applies to those involved.

I think the NCAA just might have a problem if they discover the starting QB for a team is making $1,000 bets on games he plays in.  But if some old arm-chair QB bets a case of beer that his alma mater beats up his neighbors alma mater...I doubt they care or would be able to do anything about it.  

Well if you lose the case of beer you can always take that lucky lawnmover over and scalp his yard

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

I think the people most likely to go to Cornell are the ones who trust the brochures and don't go for a visit.  Nothing against Cornell or its supporters on here, I just had a very bad experience visiting Cornell.

Haha, see I actually had a good time on my visit, and it was one of the reasons I went to Cornell.  I guess to each his own.

Usain Bolt - Insane.

And yes to reiterate....INSANE!!!!

[doolittledog]

In vegas it is I believe.

Okay I'll take your word on it, I always thought there were some NCAA sanctions or something, but I guess maybe that only applies to those involved.

I think the NCAA just might have a problem if they discover the starting QB for a team is making $1,000 bets on games he plays in.  But if some old arm-chair QB bets a case of beer that his alma mater beats up his neighbors alma mater...I doubt they care or would be able to do anything about it.  

Well if you lose the case of beer you can always take that lucky lawnmover over and scalp his yard

We live on the farm now...that would be a LONG drive over on the mower 

[Klopenhiemer]

In vegas it is I believe.

Okay I'll take your word on it, I always thought there were some NCAA sanctions or something, but I guess maybe that only applies to those involved.

I think the NCAA just might have a problem if they discover the starting QB for a team is making $1,000 bets on games he plays in.  But if some old arm-chair QB bets a case of beer that his alma mater beats up his neighbors alma mater...I doubt they care or would be able to do anything about it.  

Well if you lose the case of beer you can always take that lucky lawnmover over and scalp his yard

We live on the farm now...that would be a LONG drive over on the mower 

Well just send him a mail bomb then

[Purple Heys]

How?  The schools you mention have history and direct tribal knowledge within the state.  You can't just offer money...you could, but it's illegal...kids will come for the unique curriculum (Jr.'s reason) and the academic opportunity, but until the wins come in with the group we have, the football playing Iowa kid will likely make a football decision.

I bet if you polled a lot of former and current players, their number 1 response for coming to CC in the first place was because of the unique curriculum and the academic opportunity.  Football came second, and I believe that especially in DIII athletics this is the way that it should be.  But as I guess we have already pointed out, that is not always the case. 

I know that when I was looking at where to go to school, I was thrilled to have offers to play as high as the DII level, even though I was only offered scholarships to some NAIA programs.  I chose to go to Cornell because of the academic reputation and the possibilities I foresaw with unique class schedule, and just being able to play football and baseball came secondary.

I know that there are kids from out of state that know the history of the conference and who is a winner and all of that.  But I think it is much more likely that most of those out of states kids that are looking at out of state schools either:
1) Don't care about a programs history
or
2) Have no clue about the conference or who is a winner
I know when I played my first season I had no clue who any of the other schools were and often times had to ask who was good and who wasn't in the weeks leading up to games.  And I grew up just one state away from Iowa.  I know not all kids are the same, and thats what can make recruiting so difficult is knowing who to target and put your time and effort into.

I'm just glad that we most of us agree that Cornell isn't SOL because they only have 5 Iowans in their freshman class.  We have our issues, but I don't believe this to be one of them.

I think the people most likely to go to Cornell are the ones who trust the brochures and don't go for a visit (maybe that would explain all the players from afar).  Nothing against Cornell or its supporters on here, I just had a very bad experience visiting Cornell.

Au contraire...

I visited with Jr.   We expected some rinky dink place in the middle of cornfields.

We came away with a vastly different impression.  This was after visiting places like Occidental, Redlands, and Azuza Pacific(NAIA).

Cornell seemed to have much more going for it.  Scenic historical campus, unique educational opportunity, close knit community.  It outstripped our preconceptions.

[dutchfan1]

I'm in on the Pick 'Em.  I'd vote against weighting games, and a suitable tiebreaker might be who does the best in just the non-con for only the conference games.  That or preseason standings predictions.  I'll leave the tiebreaker decisions to the rest of you.

Are the rules posted somewhere?

"That GIRL" is in, too. I'll take your money anyday. Plus, I have a record to defend.

There's money involved?

As far as rules we follow the IIAC schedule pick the winners of the games.  One point for every correct pick that week.  Then we keep the record for the season.  At the end the one with the most victories is the winner.  We are trying to decide on a tie breaker.  


Walston are you in this year you kind of pooped out on us last year.  DF1 get the best of you?  

DF1 what are your thoughts on the tie breaker I proposed on the pickem board?  Any other ideas on a tie breaker.  The one about scores gets to be a lot more record keeping.  

Personally (and you can take it for what it's worth) I think that we should go back to the Lance Harbor days....the old kids will remember this. When LH ran the pick ems, we did a pre-season poll with questions like COY, POY, Winner in the Region, etc. He had a whole list of questions that he asked everyone. These questions are filled out prior to season play, and determine the winner in the event of any tie breaker. I'm not sure how far back this board goes, but if you want an example, check 2002, 2003....the first years I won.

This method checks depth of knowledge of the league as well as the region....something a true Pick Em winner would have.

This is just my two cents....take it for what you will.  

[Klopenhiemer]

I'm in on the Pick 'Em.  I'd vote against weighting games, and a suitable tiebreaker might be who does the best in just the non-con for only the conference games.  That or preseason standings predictions.  I'll leave the tiebreaker decisions to the rest of you.

Are the rules posted somewhere?

"That GIRL" is in, too. I'll take your money anyday. Plus, I have a record to defend.

There's money involved?

As far as rules we follow the IIAC schedule pick the winners of the games.  One point for every correct pick that week.  Then we keep the record for the season.  At the end the one with the most victories is the winner.  We are trying to decide on a tie breaker.  


Walston are you in this year you kind of pooped out on us last year.  DF1 get the best of you?  

DF1 what are your thoughts on the tie breaker I proposed on the pickem board?  Any other ideas on a tie breaker.  The one about scores gets to be a lot more record keeping.  

Personally (and you can take it for what it's worth) I think that we should go back to the Lance Harbor days....the old kids will remember this. When LH ran the pick ems, we did a pre-season poll with questions like COY, POY, Winner in the Region, etc. He had a whole list of questions that he asked everyone. These questions are filled out prior to season play, and determine the winner in the event of any tie breaker. I'm not sure how far back this board goes, but if you want an example, check 2002, 2003....the first years I won.

This method checks depth of knowledge of the league as well as the region....something a true Pick Em winner would have.

This is just my two cents....take it for what you will.  

I like that idea a lot.  BTW we have a great volleyball match up happening between the USA and China.  I could think of worse things to watch.  Woman scantly clad playing with balls in the rain

[BeaverOfYore]

How?  The schools you mention have history and direct tribal knowledge within the state.  You can't just offer money...you could, but it's illegal...kids will come for the unique curriculum (Jr.'s reason) and the academic opportunity, but until the wins come in with the group we have, the football playing Iowa kid will likely make a football decision.

I bet if you polled a lot of former and current players, their number 1 response for coming to CC in the first place was because of the unique curriculum and the academic opportunity.  Football came second, and I believe that especially in DIII athletics this is the way that it should be.  But as I guess we have already pointed out, that is not always the case. 

I know that when I was looking at where to go to school, I was thrilled to have offers to play as high as the DII level, even though I was only offered scholarships to some NAIA programs.  I chose to go to Cornell because of the academic reputation and the possibilities I foresaw with unique class schedule, and just being able to play football and baseball came secondary.

I know that there are kids from out of state that know the history of the conference and who is a winner and all of that.  But I think it is much more likely that most of those out of states kids that are looking at out of state schools either:
1) Don't care about a programs history
or
2) Have no clue about the conference or who is a winner
I know when I played my first season I had no clue who any of the other schools were and often times had to ask who was good and who wasn't in the weeks leading up to games.  And I grew up just one state away from Iowa.  I know not all kids are the same, and thats what can make recruiting so difficult is knowing who to target and put your time and effort into.

I'm just glad that we most of us agree that Cornell isn't SOL because they only have 5 Iowans in their freshman class.  We have our issues, but I don't believe this to be one of them.

I think the people most likely to go to Cornell are the ones who trust the brochures and don't go for a visit (maybe that would explain all the players from afar).  Nothing against Cornell or its supporters on here, I just had a very bad experience visiting Cornell.

Au contraire...

I visited with Jr.   We expected some rinky dink place in the middle of cornfields.

We came away with a vastly different impression.  This was after visiting places like Occidental, Redlands, and Azuza Pacific(NAIA).

Cornell seemed to have much more going for it.  Scenic historical campus, unique educational opportunity, close knit community.  It outstripped our preconceptions.

Agree on all those points.  I think the thing that turned me off was the fact that my tour guide obviously needed to drop a deuce and was holding it in for my entire campus tour.  If the smell didn't given it away, the beads of sweat rolling off his forehead sure did.  After an hour of following him around, the cafeteria food was even less appetizing.

[dutchfan1]

Maybe Iowa isn't that good

The most truth in any statement ever put on this board, ever.

Go Blue!

Ugh -- do I detect pro-Michigan sentiment?? Just when I was beginning to like you, too.. 

[Klopenhiemer]

How?  The schools you mention have history and direct tribal knowledge within the state.  You can't just offer money...you could, but it's illegal...kids will come for the unique curriculum (Jr.'s reason) and the academic opportunity, but until the wins come in with the group we have, the football playing Iowa kid will likely make a football decision.

I bet if you polled a lot of former and current players, their number 1 response for coming to CC in the first place was because of the unique curriculum and the academic opportunity.  Football came second, and I believe that especially in DIII athletics this is the way that it should be.  But as I guess we have already pointed out, that is not always the case. 

I know that when I was looking at where to go to school, I was thrilled to have offers to play as high as the DII level, even though I was only offered scholarships to some NAIA programs.  I chose to go to Cornell because of the academic reputation and the possibilities I foresaw with unique class schedule, and just being able to play football and baseball came secondary.

I know that there are kids from out of state that know the history of the conference and who is a winner and all of that.  But I think it is much more likely that most of those out of states kids that are looking at out of state schools either:
1) Don't care about a programs history
or
2) Have no clue about the conference or who is a winner
I know when I played my first season I had no clue who any of the other schools were and often times had to ask who was good and who wasn't in the weeks leading up to games.  And I grew up just one state away from Iowa.  I know not all kids are the same, and thats what can make recruiting so difficult is knowing who to target and put your time and effort into.

I'm just glad that we most of us agree that Cornell isn't SOL because they only have 5 Iowans in their freshman class.  We have our issues, but I don't believe this to be one of them.

I think the people most likely to go to Cornell are the ones who trust the brochures and don't go for a visit (maybe that would explain all the players from afar).  Nothing against Cornell or its supporters on here, I just had a very bad experience visiting Cornell.

Au contraire...

I visited with Jr.   We expected some rinky dink place in the middle of cornfields.

We came away with a vastly different impression.  This was after visiting places like Occidental, Redlands, and Azuza Pacific(NAIA).

Cornell seemed to have much more going for it.  Scenic historical campus, unique educational opportunity, close knit community.  It outstripped our preconceptions.

Agree on all those points.  I think the thing that turned me off was the fact that my tour guide obviously needed to drop a deuce and was holding it in for my entire campus tour.  If the smell didn't given it away, the beads of sweat rolling off his forehead sure did.  After an hour of following him around, the cafeteria food was even less appetizing.

That made me damn near blow beer out threw my nose.  Thinking about you following around some guy who has to drop a duece is outstanding. 

[warthog]

To say U of Dubuque got better because of some nicer buildings or more athletic football players seems to cheapen their success.  I am of the opinion that they have perhaps simply out worked other teams.