FB: American Rivers Conference

[Klompen]

I have eaten crow on my position with Central, they have my respect now.

Thanks, ShowMe, just think with another 30-40 years each of non losing seasons, you other teams' fans can have ShowMe's repect too!      All in fun, ShowMe, all in fun.

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

Average GPA of applicants: 3.44
Middle 50% ACT: 24-29
Middle 50% SAT: 1070 - 1330 (on 1600 scale)

The lowest ACT score i knew of someone having while i was there was a 21, most were much much higher, and the website lists for the class of '10 32% were in the top 10% of their highschool class.  Its not very easy to get into which hurts the athletic teams.  You just cant be a good ballplayer and think youve got a golden ticket.  Much more is invested in academics and most of the administration could give less than two shakes of a d*** towards sports.  Thats not to say Cornell doesnt get good individual athletes, its just hard to find enough to be able to get the job done.  In the last couple years we had our fair share of All-Americans though....well for Cornell at least.  

About regards to the administration and most of the faculty, most really could care less about athletics at Cornell.  There are the handful that go out of their way to show their support, its not campus wide by any means.  And this shows with the facilities and the like.  Although there has been an attempt to upgrade the facilities, expanding the weight room and a new wrestling room for example, but it just doesn't seem to compare when you see the financial numbers you see coming out of Pella, Waverly, and even UD now a days.  I can't remember who exactly said it earlier, but it was one of you spartan fans, but until we get the support and financial backings, it's gonna be tough to maintain programs of excellence, especially with the academic standards that are being used for admission (which are where I believe they should be).  Not an excuse, just the Coors Light Cold Hard Facts.

[DBQ1965]

Im sorry Heys but brother ShowMe has ruined it for me.  I was really hoping that Cornell would pull our the cellar this year and win some balls games.  I figured that it would make the conference stronger and show kudos to the Cornell players/coaching staff for making things happen. 

Facts are facts and Rudy is already an award winning movie.  We have had enough tear jerker football movies about hope and determination.  The funny thing is if Cornell goes 0-4 ShowMe will still be blabbering his mouth but what about 0-6 and then 0-10.  What are you going to say then? 

There's always next year!!!  He could always try that approach!!!

Maybe if people wouldn't complain so much about ShowMe he wouldn't be so out there in his posts?!?!  He seems to get revved up when he is called out.  Otherwise he just seems to be fired up and a good cheerleader until he starts getting bashed.  Then he does get a little over the top.  I guess I would rather have cheerleading for your team then talking down about other teams.  

I still hope Cornell picks up a few wins this year.  They have some good kids in their program.  I just hope this year still sees another "Debacle against Dubuque" headline in a local paper after the Cornell/Dubuque game!!!    

Its the same as a loud parent in HS don't take it out on the kids .. The players are still trying and we should support them they can't help what happens when fans go out on a limb and make predictions.. Thats how mant coaches get fired because fans have to high of exopectations for the team

These are great points and posts.  I did not mean anything against the kids playing at Cornell as I know they have been working their tails off to reach a better level of success.  I just get tired to hearing the Stephen A Smith, Marv Leavy, Rudy, Mike Tarico, Mike Golic, Harry Carey, Joe Buck, quotes over and over again. 

Marv LEVY ... Mike TIRICO ... Harry CARAY

[Airborne Dutch]

Mmmm, tailgating. I have the privilege of being stationed in North Carolina (and I use the word privilege fairly loosely) and being within a reasonably driving range of some ACC and SEC schools. In fact, myself and two other guys in my platoon are heading down to the Georgia/South Carolina game in September to partake in the festivities although nothing will beat the 2004 Central/Simpson game and running from Pella to Indianola with the Beakes. What a day.

[Klompen]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

[Walston Hoover]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

Depends on if coaches are voting for MVP or MVRM???
He's done his "time," got cleared. What else does anyone expect from him right now?

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

I would love some orange drank, but I prefer the purple.  As for if Yordi has a fantastic year, I think it would be a huge mistake to not give him the POY award because I thought that award was to go to the player who meant the most to his team's success and had the best season.  I understand we want role models, but we are all humans and we all make mistakes.  He has done his time, served his suspensions, and whatever else he had to do to attempt to atone for his actions.  I am in no way condoning what he did, but I think that it should not have any effect on decisions towards a football related reward, though I am not naive to think that things off the field get in the way of such awardings.

[sportsknight]

This year will be very similar to 2003 for Wartburg. Everyone knows they will be good so there's not going to be any sneaking up. The defense will be top 5 in D3 and the offense has to just not suck and they will be fine. The difference between '03 and this year-A returning starter at QB this year that has some pretty good stats on his sheet.

I can see that a little bit.  Both defenses brought a lot back, but had to replace some pretty key members (Ryan Winters in '03 and Nick Weber and Eric Bruhn this year).  With the exception of a new QB, I think the '03 offense probably had fewer question marks than this year.  They did have Hodapp coming back at RB, plus Chris Winter coming back off of an injury-shortened year at WR.  I have a lot more faith in this year's specialists than I did in '03 though (not that those guys were all that bad either).

[koekrazy87]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

I would love some orange drank, but I prefer the purple.  As for if Yordi has a fantastic year, I think it would be a huge mistake to not give him the POY award because I thought that award was to go to the player who meant the most to his team's success and had the best season.  I understand we want role models, but we are all humans and we all make mistakes.  He has done his time, served his suspensions, and whatever else he had to do to attempt to atone for his actions.  I am in no way condoning what he did, but I think that it should not have any effect on decisions towards a football related reward, though I am not naive to think that things off the field get in the way of such awardings.

If we are already talking about POY why Breitbach isn't included really confuses me.  A great punt/kick returner, WR and DB.  With another year of offense I would be very suprized if he doesn't get more touchdowns and yards.  On another note I was watching some of the scrimmage with Grandview and Coe was looking pretty good.  Moving the ball really well and scored on about 3 of the 8 or 9 plays i had time to watch.  Yes grandview is a first year team however it is encouraging watching coe move the ball with ease.

[dutchfan1]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

I would love some orange drank, but I prefer the purple.  As for if Yordi has a fantastic year, I think it would be a huge mistake to not give him the POY award because I thought that award was to go to the player who meant the most to his team's success and had the best season.  I understand we want role models, but we are all humans and we all make mistakes.  He has done his time, served his suspensions, and whatever else he had to do to attempt to atone for his actions.  I am in no way condoning what he did, but I think that it should not have any effect on decisions towards a football related reward, though I am not naive to think that things off the field get in the way of such awardings.

He's right. I'm not a Yordi fan by any means, but his antics last year mean nothing to POY voting. It's not the Gagliardi trophy -- it strictly represents on-field contribution to overall personal and team success.

We can work like hell to keep him from having a perfect season, though, if we want to keep the award out of his hands. 

[TheOne89.1]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

Let's say Wartburg goes undefeated and finishes 1st, if Simpsons finishes 2nd or 3rd I can see another 2003 moment with Willis not getting COY.

As for Yordi.  If he has numbers better than last year and leads the Knights to an IIAC championship then I think he deserves MVP.  Yeah he may have pulled a bone head move getting in trouble last year, but I wouldn't say he is a terrible role model.  Not like he is using steroids or getting multiple DUI's or has sexual assault cases against him.  These are the things in the NFL that are knocking players off the role model list.

[TheOne89.1]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

I would love some orange drank, but I prefer the purple.  As for if Yordi has a fantastic year, I think it would be a huge mistake to not give him the POY award because I thought that award was to go to the player who meant the most to his team's success and had the best season.  I understand we want role models, but we are all humans and we all make mistakes.  He has done his time, served his suspensions, and whatever else he had to do to attempt to atone for his actions.  I am in no way condoning what he did, but I think that it should not have any effect on decisions towards a football related reward, though I am not naive to think that things off the field get in the way of such awardings.

If we are already talking about POY why Breitbach isn't included really confuses me.  A great punt/kick returner, WR and DB.  With another year of offense I would be very suprized if he doesn't get more touchdowns and yards.  On another note I was watching some of the scrimmage with Grandview and Coe was looking pretty good.  Moving the ball really well and scored on about 3 of the 8 or 9 plays i had time to watch.  Yes grandview is a first year team however it is encouraging watching coe move the ball with ease.

Coe gets 1st or 2nd, makes playoffs thanks to Breitbachs conference leading scoring.  I say give him the MVP.

[DutchFan2004]

"Everybody in the conference always downplays us, thinks that we're not going to do anything," said Cornell running back Travion Hardman.
Yep. And until they do, we will continue to think that.
Lots of talk coming from Mt Vernon right now.

it almost seems like there is a ton of talk comming out of Mt Vernon right now.  i can't wait until Coe pops the balloon and brings Cornell back down to earth.  I'm sorry, but everyone in Cornell is talking like they have done something in the past couple years when in all honestly they haven't done jack.  They are almost putting a mark on their back to make sure people notice them.  if i were them i would want to fly waaayy under the radar until the first conference game.  It's great that Cornell has a good amount of players comming back (for them).  Everyone else has at least that amount of players comming back.  

on a side note, Coe scrimmages Grand View today -- hate the choice to scrimmage a weaker team because it doesn't really tell you where you need to be the following week.  It will be nice to blow out the opposition, but that's not what a scrimmage is for.

Thats all I need is for Coe to start talking smack. Coe, your days are numbered,
In the words of fellow fans, Purple Heys, I hope you can count the days off.

that's all you need?  you going to in some way effect teh outcome of the game?  seriously, if any players read this sight (and i know some do) you are diggin cornell in a big hole that the probably wont get out of this year.
you have the biggest mouth on the board -- it used to be wartburg guys, but it isn't even close now.  for your sake, tone it down a bit, until Cornell puts any points on the board.

We're shaking, ask them to take it easy on us.
I  beleive Cornell needs a swagger to deal with the hype. And yes, thats all it is.

I believe a swagger comes from accomplishments done on the field.  Not just deciding one day that you were good or competitive.  I have never seen a team that has a swagger from losing.  If Cornell does get a conference victory that might help with confidence but "swagger"  I doubt it.  All four years watching the Dutch I can say that they have never had a swagger.  They seem to have a workman attitude and get the job done.  I don't think the coaches there would let that happen.  They know that pride goeth before a fall and if you ever do look down at an opponent they will come back to beat you.

[Klompen]

Let's all have a pretend drink of Wartburg's orange Koolaide for a minute.  Pretend that Wartburg runs the tables and Willis gets coach of the year.  Take another swallow of orange koolaide and say Yordi has a great year, would he get POY or will last year's moment of dimenished capacity haunt him?

Me, give me all the orange koolaide you want, I vote for a better role model. 

Depends on if coaches are voting for MVP or MVRM???
He's done his "time," got cleared. What else does anyone expect from him right now?

Just asking the question.   None of us are voting, so what we think won't matter.  I'm just curious.

[Mav45]

You know, ShowMe, not a single poster would dislike you like we do had you not introduced yourself to the board with the "You all are going to eat crow at the end of the season. Cornell wins, you all suck" attitude. You said that crap to elicit a response, and we responded.

For the record, I did not introduce myself as you have explained. Secondly, i have never said "you all suck". The crow response came in rsponse to all the negative talk I received when I suggested my team would be better. I know we have our challenges but it it not without pride.

Please find the quote where I said "you all suck" and I will appologize, otherwise, please do not miss quote me. It is my intent to have a respectful conversation but i will enforce the my teams pride. Thanks

My wife always nails me on this one.  Here's the deal: diplomacy trumps what you say.  It's not always what you "meant to say", it's what people HEAR you say.  Perception, they say, is 99% reality.

Think of those Johnny-goofs last fall, talk about obnoxious fans.  At the end they come up with, "hey, we were just trying to have some fun conversation...."  They were so irritating we had almost all the IIAC people posting jumping to cheer for Central.

So, with no offense intended, take care how you present your case as you celebrate your Rams.