FB: American Rivers Conference

[BeaverFan3208]

Can we get at least to 1297 in the next 15 minutes by offering up our favorite tailgating foods?
Just food for right now. Beverages are a different topic.

Brats
Beer
Chips
Cheese Dip
Cocktail weenies

[Thunderbolt]

Can we get at least to 1297 in the next 15 minutes by offering up our favorite tailgating foods?
Just food for right now. Beverages are a different topic.

Nothing wrong with some lemon peppered shrimp on the grill.

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

I'm gone for one day and I come back to a conversation to way in on, too bad it took forever to read the 5 pages I missed...

Anyways, I think that the reasons that Wartburg and Central are consistently on the top of the conference is that they never seem to have a senior class smaller than 20 players.  Like DF2004 said, the upper class is the backbone of your program.  When you recruit you want a large freshman class because the odds are about half will not make it to their senior season because they'll either transfer, get hurt, play another sport, or just quit altogether.  The more you have come in the more likely you will have a larger senior class.  When I was at Cornell, I believe the largest senior class we had was my senior year and it was like 14 guys and I came into Cornell with I believe some 29 freshman.  On every team, there was atleast 2-4 freshman that started, as well as a few sophomores.  That makes it difficult to consistently win ball games over many seasons.  You may get lucky, and have some really talented underclassman come in and have a good season or two as the ball bounces your way and the injuries are negligible but to consistently win over many seasons you gotta have consistently high numbers at the freshman level.

Another thing to remember about recruiting for DIII football is there are no scholarships to hand out or offer recruits in the process.  This means that any coach is gonna recruit as many as he possibly can and hope that he gets some of the players he recruited.  At higher levels, a coach can offer a guy a scholarship and as soon as he accepts he knows that guy will be coming to play in his program and he doesn't have to offer anyone else a scholarship to fill that roll unless he needs to.  At the DIII level, guys can say they are coming to your program and at the last minute transfer and play for someone else, so this uncertainty would lead any coach to recruit as many players as they can even possibly over-recruiting.  There is no penalty for transferring, unlike higher levels, so when a player accepts a scholarship, he has a tough decision to opt out, unlike at this level.  This system then lends success to as some have called, "beating you with recruiting".  It's only the way to survive because you are not ever going to be certain that a guy is going to show up and play until the day practice begins.

(I'm sure there are holes in this argument, but I'm typing fast and really didn't proofread)

Yay!!! #50

[TheOne89.1]

s_t65: 
The one thing I find a little suprizing is the relative small size of Wartburg's freshman class. (49)
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I would expect Coach Willis will have more new Knights next year. 

Anybody more "in the know" can feel free to correct me, but I think Koehler was putting more of an emphasis on quality than quantity in the recruiting plan this year.  Didn't want quite as big a class, but was looking to get just as much talent in a smaller overall number.

Oh, and as far as people being a little more snippy right before the season starts...Ask WH and TheOne about me.  I'm always this much of an a$$hole.

It's true.  Try working with the guy for 4 years and living near him for 2.  Kind of like spending Christmas time with AEN all school year long.

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

Can we get at least to 1297 in the next 15 minutes by offering up our favorite tailgating foods?
Just food for right now. Beverages are a different topic.

Nothing wrong with some lemon peppered shrimp on the grill.

I myself like some straight from the cow steaks and beef sticks.  Cheesy potatoes are the best!  Definitely can't go wrong with mini-weenies though...

[Mav45]

It's not unsual to hear a D1 recruit's top 5 list.  Recruited athletes are asked, point blank, who else they are considering by the school recruiting.  Why can't a kid ask the same type of questions in return.  In fact they can, and should.  It could get them more info than just, "everybody gets a chance to compete".  It might save them the hassle of transferring as some kids do over lack of PT.
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How 'bout the coaches present their top ten list to each recruit?  The great Jim Williams was famous for this type of recruiting.  Out of the briefcase would come a "Top Ten" recruit list, at the top of that particular sheet was the name of the kid he was visiting.  Perhaps the genius was keeping all those recruiting lists in proper order.

Other coaches see this kind of garbage going on....It makes me wonder....when COY awards are lauded....and certain coaches get the apparent snub after a great season....is the snub an accident, or a response to his "business" tactics?  Just wondering.

[TheOne89.1]

OK, this board needs to get going to get to 1200.
What clubs/other activities were you guys (and df1) involved in in college.

Besides the many hours of football.  Worked for the campus TV station and Radio station along side Walston Hoover and SportsKnight.  Student worked for Alfred E. in the Neumann Auditorium.  Worked part time at Joe's Knighthawk as a bouncer/DJ (paid off after college as well).  Also, a little involved with Society of Collegiate Journalists and Lambda Pi Eta.

I have always said I would have loved to go to college as long as I didn't have to go to class.

[TheOne89.1]

OK, this board needs to get going to get to 1200.
What clubs/other activities were you guys (and df1) involved in in college.

-  Wartburg Television staff for 4 years (3 as Sports Director and 1 as Co-Station Manager)
-  KWAR staff for 3 years (Did mostly basketball/baseball/softball play-by-play as well as hosting or co-hosting a weekly show most semesters.  Was also the in-studio host for the Knights Radio Network for a couple years)
-  Wrote a column for the Trumpet, the student newspaper, for a couple years
-  Was an on- and off-member of the Catholic Knights for a while
-  Also a member of the Society of Collegiate Journalists
-  Spent a year on Student Senate (colossal waste of time)
-  Part-time jobs or internships at KWWL-TV, KCRG-TV, the Iowa Conference, KCNZ Radio, Cumulus Media, the Waterloo Courier, and Joe's KnightHawk
-  Was a member of the underground Kappa Tappa Kegga fraternity
-  And I went to class every once in a while

Got yourself a little in trouble for one article if I remember correctly.  So you see SK has always been one to ruffle people's feathers.

[DutchFan2004]

It's not unsual to hear a D1 recruit's top 5 list.  Recruited athletes are asked, point blank, who else they are considering by the school recruiting.  Why can't a kid ask the same type of questions in return.  In fact they can, and should.  It could get them more info than just, "everybody gets a chance to compete".  It might save them the hassle of transferring as some kids do over lack of PT.

How 'bout the coaches present their top ten list to each recruit?  The great Jim Williams was famous for this type of recruiting.  Out of the briefcase would come a "Top Ten" recruit list, at the top of that particular sheet was the name of the kid he was visiting.  Perhaps the genius was keeping all those recruiting lists in proper order.

Other coaches see this kind of garbage going on....It makes me wonder....when COY awards are lauded....and certain coaches get the apparent snub after a great season....is the snub an accident, or a response to his "business" tactics?  Just wondering.
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That question was asked by my son to all the coaches he talked with.  The answer which I believe was truthful was a number and then followed by the statement that not all of the kids we recruit will come here.  If you are the better player you will play.  That includes Coe, Wartburg, and Central they all had this statement and attitude.

[DutchFan2004]

One of the coaches that recruited even was upfront that if he didn't play QB for then he could be moved to defense and have a chance to play there or wide reciever.  That the competition at QB was not the end of his chances to start. 

[DutchFan2004]

DF1 you have mentioned that your coached at Pella High.  What sport did you coach?  Was it the cheer squad?

[LCNorse]

Wow...don't even want to go into work tomorrow...really excited for NFL to start tonight and then heading down to Decorah this weekend to see the Norse open up against St. Olaf...even this weather feels like football season...gotta love this time of year!!

[Pat Coleman]

My Friends,

Based on my experience, some of the bloggers need an attitude adjustment.

What bloggers? This is a message board.

Blogger is the noun version of Blogging all derived from Blog.

A blog (a contraction of the term "Web log") is a Web site, usually maintained by an individual [1], with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video. Entries are commonly displayed in reverse-chronological order. "Blog" can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.

Many blogs provide commentary or news on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, Web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability for readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of many blogs. Most blogs are primarily textual, although some focus on art (artlog), photographs (photoblog), sketches (sketchblog), videos (vlog), music (MP3 blog), audio (podcasting), which are part of a wider network of social media. Micro-blogging is another type of blogging, one which consists of blogs with very short posts. As of December 2007, blog search engine Technorati was tracking more than 112 million blogs.[2] With the advent of video blogging, the word blog has taken on an even looser meaning — that of any bit of media wherein the subject expresses his opinion or simply talks about something.

I am aware of what a blog is. This, however, is a message board, not a blog.

I'd love for people to visit our blog, though.
http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/

[sportsknight]

OK, this board needs to get going to get to 1200.
What clubs/other activities were you guys (and df1) involved in in college.

-  Wartburg Television staff for 4 years (3 as Sports Director and 1 as Co-Station Manager)
-  KWAR staff for 3 years (Did mostly basketball/baseball/softball play-by-play as well as hosting or co-hosting a weekly show most semesters.  Was also the in-studio host for the Knights Radio Network for a couple years)
-  Wrote a column for the Trumpet, the student newspaper, for a couple years
-  Was an on- and off-member of the Catholic Knights for a while
-  Also a member of the Society of Collegiate Journalists
-  Spent a year on Student Senate (colossal waste of time)
-  Part-time jobs or internships at KWWL-TV, KCRG-TV, the Iowa Conference, KCNZ Radio, Cumulus Media, the Waterloo Courier, and Joe's KnightHawk
-  Was a member of the underground Kappa Tappa Kegga fraternity
-  And I went to class every once in a while

Got yourself a little in trouble for one article if I remember correctly.  So you see SK has always been one to ruffle people's feathers.

One?  I think at one point I had a streak of four consecutive columns that brought about an angry letter to the editor.

[sportsknight]

I make some mean baked beans just ask sportsknight. 

Those were damn good.  But didn't have too much "baked bean after effects" to have a negative impact on my sideline reporting. 

As for other tailgate foods, I'm always up for a good burger or brat.  I'm pretty easy to please that way.  Pork burgers are usually a welcome change of pace.  Also, TheOne's pretzel dip is a must have.