FB: American Rivers Conference

[DutchFan2004]

Heys

I guess you will have to add Central to the list of potential schools that Heys3 will attend.  Talked to the son and he watched the Central/Lakeland game.  Said it was somewhat choppy but could see the plays ok.  Since he was in Cali that is a plus you know that it works that far.   

[Klopenhiemer]

Klopenhiemer:
 
You may have a point that I should have used U of Dubuque instead of Simpson in my previous post.  I'd have no problems with that change.  I used Simpson because I wanted to use the crossed out Redmen and because they have a couple of our local kids on the defensive side of the ball.  

Central, Simpson, Dubuque or any other IIAC team could give Wartburg fits if the Knights have a repeat ground game performance like the one St. Norbert saw.

By the way the game was in Waverly.  By your post, I assumed you thought it was played in Wisconsin

My post was supposed to have said that even though SNC had a long bus ride down to Waverly.  I knew the game was in Waverly and somtimes my fingers do not always follow what my brain wants to say

[Tydebol Man]

Central lists four qb's on their roster and two of them are currently hurt.  Sources tell me the other freshman (wilson) is also on the injured list.

[BB]

Good win for the Knights...24 points is 24 points, that is a very comfortable win.   Really, a win is a win.  If you played well and won by 24, you should be very happy.  If you did not play well and won by 24, the other team sucks and you need to work on things.

Did Augie not run the spread offense?  The local tv station ran a big report on Thursday night about how they were switching to the spread to keep up with the times.   They also said that it would help their defense out to practice against it more in camp, etc..    I thought it sounded kinda fishy, I would imagine it would be hard to switch offenses over the course of one off season, especially if you have been running a certain offense since the times of the Pilgrims.

[Pat Coleman]

I don't know how you would better change an offensive scheme other than over the offseason. We even have some spring practice these days to make it easier.

[BB]

Pat,

I understand what you are saying....the amount of contact time in the spring and offseason makes it easier to change what you are doing.  However, some times it may be more difficult to change when you are going from one extreme to another.  Also, if a player has been in a system for 3 years, it still is going to be difficult to transition away from what they are used to...especially some of the skill players on offense.  If a qb goes one year from throwing 10-15 times a game, then the same qb has to throw 30-40 times a game the next year...it may not go as easy.   A perfect example would be the mess up in Michigan this season. 

[DutchFan2004]

Pat,

I understand what you are saying....the amount of contact time in the spring and offseason makes it easier to change what you are doing.  However, some times it may be more difficult to change when you are going from one extreme to another.  Also, if a player has been in a system for 3 years, it still is going to be difficult to transition away from what they are used to...especially some of the skill players on offense.  If a qb goes one year from throwing 10-15 times a game, then the same qb has to throw 30-40 times a game the next year...it may not go as easy.   A perfect example would be the mess up in Michigan this season. 

I did not see the whole scrimmage against the Dutch.  I left after two quarters.  It was a hot day and I got baked good.  Having said that Auggie ran the spread 95% of the time when they had the ball the first two quarters.  They ran the wing when they got inside the 10 yard line.  They were effective moving the ball with the spread.  It could be that they do not want their conference schools preparing for that if they can avoid it.  If they can keep it under wraps and spring it on the teams they need to use it on then it could be a good trap.  BB if they wanted to they could have run it IMHO.  Not that they are dissing Coe but if they did not need to use it and they can get the W then they keep their secret attack a secret.  Kind of hard to prepare for something you haven't seen.  Then it is also hard to prepare for the Wing-T when you are not used to seeing it.  Maybe the OC will be cagey and mix things up. 

[footballdaddy]

My take on the Knight's games is that they can feel good, but not great, about the outcome. A 24 point win is a decicive win, but it SHOULD have been at leat 31 if not 38. The negatives? The running game, although it did get better as the game wore on, and turnovers. The positives? Yordi's performance and the defense, although some tackling techniqe refreshers may be helpful. The SNC game is a good foundation to build on. I'm sure next week our problem areas will be improved and our strenghts even better.

[davedevine]

that's correct, I was impressed with the drubbing Central put on Lakeland yesterday.  Especially pitching a shutout.  Someone mentioned Lakeland made the playoffs last year or year before?  That's even more impressive if that's true.  I have never even  heard of Lakeland, where are they from?  

Also, as long as I can remember- ('98-) WB-Central game  has always been the 2nd to last game of season correct?
Pretty interesting(huge understatement of day)  that it's the first conference game of the season.  
Does the conference  think it's more advantageous for the loser to try to obtain an at large bid with not such a recent loss on the playoff committee's minds?


Lastly, if ya'll want some fantasy advice, just let me know.  Today  I started P. Manning, M. Turner, W. Parker, A. Johnson, A. Boldin & Tony G.  

[Klompen]

LOL -- interesting commentary. I suppose this is where the Dutch fans come across as cocky....winning  by 24 isn't "decisive" enough for some people. Hmm.

I don't know about you guys, but it scares the hell out of me!

It was a very good, solid, decisive win by Wartburg.  The thought that it wasn't never crossed my mind, nor did I ever say that it wasn't a good win.  Only that I would have thought their win would have been more like Central's score and Central's would have been more like theirs.  I also acknowledged that SNC was better than Lakeland, so even though both were conference champs the prior year, SNC is clearly a better team.  Lakeland showed absolutely nothing on Saturday.  

I just kind of like getting under Devine's skin.    Wartburg scares me too, but I am a Dutch fan and it is time to turn to unyielding belief in the Dutch.  Time again to FIND A WAY.  

[Klopenhiemer]

My take on the Knight's games is that they can feel good, but not great, about the outcome. A 24 point win is a decicive win, but it SHOULD have been at leat 31 if not 38. The negatives? The running game, although it did get better as the game wore on, and turnovers. The positives? Yordi's performance and the defense, although some tackling techniqe refreshers may be helpful. The SNC game is a good foundation to build on. I'm sure next week our problem areas will be improved and our strenghts even better.

Just remember at this time of the season the defense is always ahead of the offense.  Also you will see the most improvement from week 1 to week 2.  My point is that all is IIAC teams that lost, can still come back and have great season.  I look for BV, Cornell, and Loras to respond next week (BV in two weeks) with wins or at least much better performances.

[Klompen]

Well the term monkey stomp is and has been used for a 21 point win.  I think that anytime you lose by three touchdowns or more it is a whipping.  It may not be as clean of a win in the end and having mistakes but Wartburg's win was decisive IMHO.  You have a few mistakes you correct them and move on.  Wartburg did not scheule up but they didn't schedule way down either.  They took on a conference champ and won you have to give the credit for that.  

I'm not trying to take any credit away from Wartburg.  I was giving them credit for being able to do even better than they did.  I just find it humorous that at least a couple of us Dutch fans thought Wartburg was really going to take it to SNC and their fans seem to be taking offense to the compliment.   

Central took on a conference champ and won too, though I would give you that SNC is better than Lakeland.  Still, if I had heard the two scores before the game, and admitting that I didn't know a whole lot about Lakeland, I would have thought WB would win 41-0 and Central would have had the 24 point win. 

That makes sense from the standpoint if every thing was equal. I would have said that Wartburg having all the experience back and Central having so many question marks Wartburg may have shut their opponent out.  The trouble is we are saying that Lakeland and SNC were equal and clearly that was wrong or if they were equal one team performed better (SNC) and one worse (Lakeland).  That is also a possibility. 

Nope, even knowing that SNC was better than Lakeland, I would have picked WB for the 41-0 shutout.  No disrespect was intended.  I just have a lot of respect for Wartburg's program, returning letterwinners and Coach Willis.  

That said, Go Dutch!

[DutchFan2004]

My take on the Knight's games is that they can feel good, but not great, about the outcome. A 24 point win is a decicive win, but it SHOULD have been at leat 31 if not 38. The negatives? The running game, although it did get better as the game wore on, and turnovers. The positives? Yordi's performance and the defense, although some tackling techniqe refreshers may be helpful. The SNC game is a good foundation to build on. I'm sure next week our problem areas will be improved and our strenghts even better.

I did not see the game and I am impressed with the win the Knights put on SNC.  I was expecting a 14 point win from the Knights but I thought it might be like 21-7.  A lower scoring game.  Yordi must have that offense moving well.  The D played well from what I understand.  Give most offenses short fields and they will score.  So you can not blame the D for the 20 points.  I hope that the Dutch can heal up and give the Knights all they want.  In the last four years this game has only been one big margin of victory with 3 of the games being a one score game and one of those was an OT game.  So I am hoping for more of the same from the Dutch like Klompen said "find a way"

[Walston Hoover]

We got beat by 22 on Friday night and it felt like the biggest butt-whooping I have ever taken.
Final score usually depend on how the game went. Winning by 24 but leading by 7 going into the 4th quarter=close game
Winning by 24 but never having the game closer than 2 scores=blowout.

[Klopenhiemer]

We got beat by 22 on Friday night and it felt like the biggest butt-whooping I have ever taken.
Final score usually depend on how the game went. Winning by 24 but leading by 7 going into the 4th quarter=close game
Winning by 24 but never having the game closer than 2 scores=blowout.

My condolences on your loss to Valley.  I was really pulling for the Maroon's.  Now just take it easy on U'dale   I saw they eeked out a victory of CB TJ, not exactally a stallar football program.