FB: American Rivers Conference

[doolittledog]

Bye weeks are great for healing up a team that is injured.  But from listening to games the last 3 or so years, it seems whenever a team is coming off a bye week they commit a bunch of penalties.  Their timing gets thrown off from their week off.   Wartburg will be loaded for bear this weekend after losing to Augsburg and Central will be playing their homecoming game.  Both teams are well coached.  I have no idea how this game will play out.  

[Voice of the Dutch]

Doesn't "A live video Webcast" mean we will get to see the game and not just hear it?

They are trying to work the radio feed into the webcast - but had some problems during the Lakeland game.

Hopefully they'll get it figured out for this week, so you can watch and listen.

[MNbeev]

After reading my post...I will have to admit most of my posts end up sounding alike in some way.  Saying something like BV needs to get the O going, BV will win if the O gets some points on the board and my favorite BV needs an O.

You forgot "BV needs some rushing O" 

Maybe "BV needs some passing O","BV needs some scoring O", "BV needs some error-free O", "BV needs some penalty free O"

Then again, maybe BV just needs a scoring defense and special teams.  

I agree with Both of you, twist my arm.  BV's Passing is actually not half bad, better then the Rushing . We have scored, twice...But error and prenalty free would be great.  I am not trying to knock my team but BV won't get my "O" face until they can get the Offense doing something everytime they are on the field and give the D a break. 

[dutchfan1]

Bye weeks are great for healing up a team that is injured.  But from listening to games the last 3 or so years, it seems whenever a team is coming off a bye week they commit a bunch of penalties.  Their timing gets thrown off from their week off.   Wartburg will be loaded for bear this weekend after losing to Augsburg and Central will be playing their homecoming game.  Both teams are well coached.  I have no idea how this game will play out.  

Central isn't ever known for being a penalty-laden team, so I doubt this will be the case. 

Knowing the history of the Evil (Non)Empire, I would expect to see more penalties from the Knight bench. For years, players have claimed that Wartburg plays dirty. Hey, if that's what they need to do to win, I guess....

[Thunderbolt]

Doesn't "A live video Webcast" mean we will get to see the game and not just hear it?

They are trying to work the radio feed into the webcast - but had some problems during the Lakeland game.

Hopefully they'll get it figured out for this week, so you can watch and listen.

Last weekend I caught about half of the Coe game on the net. They didn't have audio connected either. I just clicked on the audio webcast and then went into the video. That worked well for me. There is probably about two seconds delay between the audio and video, but the only time I really noticed was when they panned the clock as the announcer stated how much time was left. I thought the picture was pretty good.

[MNbeev]

Bye weeks are great for healing up a team that is injured.  But from listening to games the last 3 or so years, it seems whenever a team is coming off a bye week they commit a bunch of penalties.  Their timing gets thrown off from their week off.   Wartburg will be loaded for bear this weekend after losing to Augsburg and Central will be playing their homecoming game.  Both teams are well coached.  I have no idea how this game will play out.  

Central isn't ever known for being a penalty-laden team, so I doubt this will be the case. 

Knowing the history of the Evil (Non)Empire, I would expect to see more penalties from the Knight bench. For years, players have claimed that Wartburg plays dirty. Hey, if that's what they need to do to win, I guess....

I have also heard about / played against these so called dirty players wartburg has.  But I don't think playing dirty helps you win.  Grabbing jersey, tackling a linebacker and getting hit in the stomach doesn't help you win it just gives you a little edge.  But I am betting there are other players that do the samething and they lose.  Wartburg is a darn good football team, they know how to win, and if they do something a little dirty, eh, we all have...I admit it.  Any one else like to come clear?

I threw down the Coe Quarterback after he handed the ball off and booted the other way, I took him and threw him to the ground, and if he is reading this, I am sorry, I blew up and took my aggression out on you.  

[Fannosaurus Rex]

[On Saturday Dubuque has an opportunity to do something they have only done twice before...beat Luther for a 3rd straight year!!!  The Spartans won 3 straight from '47-'49 and again from '79-'81  There have only been 3 times Dubuque even won 2 straight against Luther '21-'22 and '87-'88 along with the last 2 seasons.  Overall Dubuque stands 18-48-6 against Luther...so they need to go on a looooonnnnnggg winning streak to get this series back to a respectable W-L record

I think this is the year they do it.  The Norse fans don't seem overly impressed with what they have seen this year.  Then again, maybe it is the year.  WB fans have never been this silent during Central-Wartburg week.  Kind of takes all the fun out of it. 

Your right. But just wait for all the "I knew it, and I told you so." comments that start coming in Saturday night. Last year there was a total of 198 points scored opening weekend. I have a feeling, that total will be a lot less this year. I can honestly say I'd love to be at all four venues Saturday.

The Wart fans have always been very gracious when they lose to Central.  I can't remember what they are like when they win.

[DutchFan2004]

 Personally, I don't think it means that Dubuque is going back to the way things were.  That was a huge travel trip and against a top 25 team.  I think they put it in perspective and move on, particularly given the outcome of too many of our non-conference games.  

Ok I just didn't want anyone to draw those conclusions.  It is way early in the season to judge if UD has fallen or if they are still at the same level they were.  Time will tell that story.  I don't know if UD even knows where they are at this time.  From the two games they played I see a book there " A tale of two Games"  One a rout for and one against.  It will be a good test for both of those teams this year.  To see if Luther can hang with them and if UD can keep the winning ways over the Norse.

I hope I didn't imply or infer that UD had gone back to they way they were a few years ago.  They are not the team they were last year, but they played a very good Redlands team.  I don't think they will win the IIAC this year but I don't see them being the doormat either.  They will be very competitive.  I think they are a middle or upper middle team this year.  

I didn't think you implied or inferred any such thing, DF04.  It was just my own assessment, not having seen them at all.  It was a loss more typical of teams of the past, but I agree, it does not mean they are going back to those doormat days.  They have more stability in the coaching staff now, top notch facilities, etc.  I think Dubuque is a team on the rise, it may not be a straight shot to the top, but they are clearly headed the right direction.

[Klompen]

After reading my post...I will have to admit most of my posts end up sounding alike in some way.  Saying something like BV needs to get the O going, BV will win if the O gets some points on the board and my favorite BV needs an O.

You forgot "BV needs some rushing O" 

Maybe "BV needs some passing O","BV needs some scoring O", "BV needs some error-free O", "BV needs some penalty free O"

Then again, maybe BV just needs a scoring defense and special teams.  

I agree with Both of you, twist my arm.  BV's Passing is actually not half bad, better then the Rushing . We have scored, twice...But error and prenalty free would be great.  I am not trying to knock my team but BV won't get my "O" face until they can get the Offense doing something everytime they are on the field and give the D a break. 

I have watched decades of Central College football and, fortunately, I have not seen too many losses.  But I can completely agree with you because when Central has lost, much of the time it was because the defense spent way too much time on the field.  Offenses have to be able to give the D some rest, or it is bound to break down.

[Purple Heys]

I'm not concerned with the quotes made by Bush, and I know all about leading questions and journalistic omission.  I have my own reasons for why I said what I did, and they don't all stem from this one article.  I did state that I hope that I am wrong, because I still have hope that the program can be "righted" and I sincerely hope that it does as Cornell is my school and who doesn't want their school to succeed.  I was happy to see that there seemed to be a change in play calling that hopefully better used the skill set of one Mr. Bush.  I think he has an opportunity to be a top performer in the conference, but unlike what was stated in the article, I don't think one performance makes him one of those players just yet.  Big week ahead of us, a lot riding on this game.  I hope we come to play and that we minimize mistakes (penalties and turnovers).

he had an average game.  nothing to write home about... averaging 9 yards per pass isnt anything spactacular.

man, i would be pissed if i had to wear those purple and white striped socks teh cornell players wear

I suppose that if this were a contest to diss one another's passing game one might take note that the Coe "attack" has thrown 90 times and covered 587 yards and generated 0 TD's.    

You'd think with that many yards gained someone would have tripped and fallen over backwards into the end zone.    

6 picks in two games would/should be a concern too....coupled with a running game that has netted 64 yards per game...Coe is passing, because it looks like they have had to, to move the ball.

I would harp further, but after 4 fumbles of our own last time out, I hope this latest edition of the Oldest Rivalry West of the Mississippi doesn't turn into a blunder bowl.

[Purple Heys]

I think this is the year they do it.  The Norse fans don't seem overly impressed with what they have seen this year.  Then again, maybe it is the year.  WB fans have never been this silent during Central-Wartburg week.  Kind of takes all the fun out of it. 

Your right. But just wait for all the "I knew it, and I told you so." comments that start coming in Saturday night. Last year there was a total of 198 points scored opening weekend. I have a feeling, that total will be a lot less this year. I can honestly say I'd love to be at all four venues Saturday.

It does seem like we have a lot of really good match ups to get the conference season under way and yet the board has been relatively quiet.  I just hope the "I knew it, and I told you so" comments are from the Wartburg fan that said this year's team was not as good as some of the teams from the past.    One thing is for certain, if the Central fans that have followed Central for years and know the team inside and out don't know what to expect, Wartburg can't know either.  I think the Simpson-BV clash will be a good one and it may give a good indication of how those schools will do the rest of the year.  I do see Dubuque and Coe winning this weekend, but even those aren't without question.  Cornell always rises to the occassion for Coe, so you can't count them out.  Dubuque sounds like it should have the edge, but how much did last week take out of them with traveling and how much did that kind of loss take the wind out of their sails, so to speak.  Personally, I don't think it means that Dubuque is going back to the way things were.  That was a huge travel trip and against a top 25 team.  I think they put it in perspective and move on, particularly given the outcome of too many of our non-conference games.  

I hope I didn't imply or infer that UD had gone back to they way they were a few years ago.  They are not the team they were last year, but they played a very good Redlands team.  I don't think they will win the IIAC this year but I don't see them being the doormat either.  They will be very competitive.  I think they are a middle or upper middle team this year.  

I don't think the DBQ had an inkling for what Redlands was prepared to bring in terms of intensity.  I didn't see a big gap in the skill positions.  Redlands kicked butt in the trenches.

At a certain point that game got away from the Spartans and Redlands buried them.  Once the tide turned, Redlands took it up a notch doling out punishment to receivers, making them hear footsteps.  UD did this to Rockford last week.

Your comment that UD traditionally doesn't travel well must of been a factor.  I have a unique perspective having seen UD at home and on the road this year.

Discounting the opponent, I saw a definite difference.  Does winning big over an inferior opponent prepare you to travel to the West Coast and play a top 25 team?  I don't know.  It would have been interesting to see UD play game 2 at home...but Redlands won't be coming out to Iowa next year to my knowledge.

I think UD will be trouble at UD against anyone...the question will be how well they travel against the better teams.

[sportsknight]

SATURDAY, SEPT. 20 ALUMNI TAILGATE AT CENTRAL
The parking lot at Peace Lutheran Church in Pella will be available for Wartburg tailgaters preceding the Wartburg-Central game on Saturday, Sept. 20. Rev. Kim '80 and Diane Ehlert '81 Wills are hosting the event. Indoor restrooms will be available starting at 11 a.m. Light refreshments will be available inside the church prior to the game and during halftime. Clean up when you leave!

[the_mayne_event]

I'm not concerned with the quotes made by Bush, and I know all about leading questions and journalistic omission.  I have my own reasons for why I said what I did, and they don't all stem from this one article.  I did state that I hope that I am wrong, because I still have hope that the program can be "righted" and I sincerely hope that it does as Cornell is my school and who doesn't want their school to succeed.  I was happy to see that there seemed to be a change in play calling that hopefully better used the skill set of one Mr. Bush.  I think he has an opportunity to be a top performer in the conference, but unlike what was stated in the article, I don't think one performance makes him one of those players just yet.  Big week ahead of us, a lot riding on this game.  I hope we come to play and that we minimize mistakes (penalties and turnovers).

he had an average game.  nothing to write home about... averaging 9 yards per pass isnt anything spactacular.

man, i would be pissed if i had to wear those purple and white striped socks teh cornell players wear

I suppose that if this were a contest to diss one another's passing game one might take note that the Coe "attack" has thrown 90 times and covered 587 yards and generated 0 TD's.    

You'd think with that many yards gained someone would have tripped and fallen over backwards into the end zone.    

6 picks in two games would/should be a concern too....coupled with a running game that has netted 64 yards per game...Coe is passing, because it looks like they have had to, to move the ball.

I would harp further, but after 4 fumbles of our own last time out, I hope this latest edition of the Oldest Rivalry West of the Mississippi doesn't turn into a blunder bowl.

i agree with you 100% about Coe's offensive woe's.  Feller has got to get it together -- on pace to shatter the Coe record for int's in a season, but not for TD's in a season....  I was just pointing out that he (bush)/the media/cornell fans shouldn't be super excited abotu his game (besides not throwing a pick).  

[Thunderbolt]

I'm not concerned with the quotes made by Bush, and I know all about leading questions and journalistic omission.  I have my own reasons for why I said what I did, and they don't all stem from this one article.  I did state that I hope that I am wrong, because I still have hope that the program can be "righted" and I sincerely hope that it does as Cornell is my school and who doesn't want their school to succeed.  I was happy to see that there seemed to be a change in play calling that hopefully better used the skill set of one Mr. Bush.  I think he has an opportunity to be a top performer in the conference, but unlike what was stated in the article, I don't think one performance makes him one of those players just yet.  Big week ahead of us, a lot riding on this game.  I hope we come to play and that we minimize mistakes (penalties and turnovers).

he had an average game.  nothing to write home about... averaging 9 yards per pass isnt anything spactacular.

man, i would be pissed if i had to wear those purple and white striped socks teh cornell players wear

I suppose that if this were a contest to diss one another's passing game one might take note that the Coe "attack" has thrown 90 times and covered 587 yards and generated 0 TD's.    

You'd think with that many yards gained someone would have tripped and fallen over backwards into the end zone.    

6 picks in two games would/should be a concern too....coupled with a running game that has netted 64 yards per game...Coe is passing, because it looks like they have had to, to move the ball.

I would harp further, but after 4 fumbles of our own last time out, I hope this latest edition of the Oldest Rivalry West of the Mississippi doesn't turn into a blunder bowl.

i agree with you 100% about Coe's offensive woe's.  Feller has got to get it together -- on pace to shatter the Coe record for int's in a season, but not for TD's in a season....  I was just pointing out that he (bush)/the media/cornell fans shouldn't be super excited abotu his game (besides not throwing a pick).  

I will never be able to put the name"Bush" in the same sentence as "bandwagon" and feel good about myself. But if he can get through this week, without a turnover and hit 50% of his passes, I will start to believe.

[duhawkdanran]

All I have to say is Cornell sucks... stop talking about them.

I believe the saviors of the IIAC are Loras and Simpson... only teams that didn't lose last week!