FB: American Rivers Conference

[Alfredeneumann]

Isn't the reason they went to a tenth of a second clock in basketball because you still have a second left when the clock first hits zero?  That could be the case here.  The clock hit zero but the horn didn't go off because there were still 9/10 of a second left?  

Looking at Coe's f-ball team photo it shows the scoreboard with 1/10 seconds feature
http://pearl.coe.edu/athletics/football/index.htm

[Klompen]

Wasn't around a computer this weekend, so lots of reading to do today. 

Heys, thanks for the laughs, you have some great one-liners.

DF1, didn't make the game, or even hear much of it, but I would say the long trip on Friday took a lot out of the team.  Unlike Dubuque when the went to Redlands, we didn't leave until Friday morning and it would have been a long haul.  Plus, I think both Central and WB were off their games a bit this week because of last week's game.  I think both teams gave everything they had this week, and I'm with WH, that tends to lead to a let down, but I see it for both teams.  Finally, I didn't catch exactly what happened with the safety when we were punting out of the end zone, but watching the WB game where every snap went to the ground, we have got to find a long snapper that can get the ball right where it needs to be, in Brondyke's hands and mid-body.  I read that as of mid-week we had no game film on Albion, so if they didn't provide it, as other schools have faced this year, it is hard to know what to prepare for.

I understand the idea is you want to win the game.  And if it isn't in the contract then tough cookies.  But for me, I would want to win games with some integrity, and not because I resorted to not trading game film.  These kids are still learning their morals...not trading game film isn't the best example to be setting in my mind.  But I am probably in the minority on this. 

I'm with you on the integrity bit Doolittle.  I guess you could say you have integrity if it isn't in the contract, because you did what was required, but I would lose a lot of respect for my team if they were doing that.  I suspect Albion had our game film, but we didn't get any.  That could even things up really fast between teams of anticipated differing abilities and it could tilt things entirely to one side if the team not sharing is the anticipated better team. 

I have learned some things about this lately.  Exchanging videos can be difficult due to conference rules.  I know some conferences do not let schools exchange vidoes out of conference because once you let the videos out of your hands you have no control where they go.  So from what I understand some conference rules state that you have to get permisson from the school that you are giving tape to.  If that schools says no you can not give it out.  So there may be more to this integrity thing than you think of.  If a school won't let you give it out then you give it out any way that is not having the integrity you are speaking of.  That may be why there is no mention of video exchanges in non conference schools.  So this IMHO is a moot point as coaches know what they are going up against.  If both schools don't have video of each other then they are equally in the blind about each other's opponent. 

Thanks for that clarification.  It makes sense when you figure that those teams could later end up in the playoffs and one school may get access to video that the other school didn't know about.

[TrainsEqualCrowdNoise]

Kohawk Remedy, no matter how terrible the referee's are, they never take the game from a team.  From what many other posters have said, Coe had plenty of opportunities to stop Loras and was even given some questionable calls as well.  I think someone said they were given an INT when the ball clearly hit the ground.  Even one of Coe's defensive ends Aaron Hadenfeldt said that if they had done their jobs, Loras wouldn't of even been in that situation at the end of the game.  

I know it sucks, that your team lost on the last second of the game, but if you were in the opposite situation, say Coe would have pulled off the victory with the clock expiring, would you still be cursing the refs and blaming them?

Oh and I agree that the videos are inconclusive, too much crowd noise.  And not that it matters anyways, it is not like the IIAC is going to look at the videos and change the result of the game.  In the end, it's still a Loras victory.

[Walston Hoover]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

[Alfredeneumann]

Does anyone have footage of the end of LC-Simpson game? Luther scored on the last play and I had Simpson -20.

[Klompen]

I can't believe people aren't willing to admit defeat. The ball clearly was snapped milliseconds before the buzzer. I have seen the actual tape and it concurs. Just admit you lost and be good sports. There are plenty of games left in the season!

Go Duhawks!

Sounds like it was a great game between two equal teams.  Those games where you let what might have been haunt you are hard to take.  Just ask some long time Linfield fans.  You don't play until the horn sounds, you play until the officials blow the whistle.  it doesn't matter what the time clock shows if the officials did not blow the whistle.  I think the extra rub is that Coe fans believe they were the better team and should have won.  Well, maybe, but then you should have taken care of business so it didn't have to come down to what the officials called.  

[Walston Hoover]

I Was calling a HS game on the radio 5-6 years ago when a QB took the snap and ran backwards a little to make sure the clock ran out. When the horn sounded, he threw the ball up in the air in celebration, rather than taking a knew and waiting for the whistle to blow. The other team picked it up and ran it back for a TD to win.
Can't remember if it was Clarksville or Riceville. They may have been playing each other.

[DutchFan2004]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

Well the key word is much isn't it?

[dutchfan1]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

Well the key word is much isn't it?

I thought the key word was "today." I've already lost money in my investment portfolio. (I've been hemmoraging cash for a week or so.) Eh, retirement is overrated anyway, I suppose....

[DutchFan2004]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

Well the key word is much isn't it?

I thought the key word was "today." I've already lost money in my investment portfolio. (I've been hemmoraging cash for a week or so.) Eh, retirement is overrated anyway, I suppose....

Only for a week you have been lucky. 

[doolittledog]

I Was calling a HS game on the radio 5-6 years ago when a QB took the snap and ran backwards a little to make sure the clock ran out. When the horn sounded, he threw the ball up in the air in celebration, rather than taking a knew and waiting for the whistle to blow. The other team picked it up and ran it back for a TD to win.
Can't remember if it was Clarksville or Riceville. They may have been playing each other.

How did you handle the call?  Did you invoke Al Michaels with "Do you believe in miracles"  Did you call out the coach or the QB for the mistake of not taking the knee?  Was there silence over the airwaves because you couldn't figure out what happened? 

[sportsknight]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

Can't lose what you don't have.

[DutchFan2004]

Hope no one lost too much money today.

Can't lose what you don't have.

And you don't have what you lose 

[Kohawk Remedy]

No, the clock doesn't work that way, doolittledog.

Remedy: Are you advocating going to the video, then calculating the time it took to travel from the speaker to the microphone?

I was just throwing out the scientific logic behind everything.  I have not seen the video yet, but I will take a look at it as soon as I get back to my house, since I'm not able to see it at work.  I just thought of it after reading other posts and thougt of during baseball/softball when you see a player hit the ball but the sound comes after you see it.  I just wanted to make sure that came into everyones mind as it did mine. 

[the_mayne_event]

Kohawk Remedy, no matter how terrible the referee's are, they never take the game from a team.  From what many other posters have said, Coe had plenty of opportunities to stop Loras and was even given some questionable calls as well.  I think someone said they were given an INT when the ball clearly hit the ground.  Even one of Coe's defensive ends Aaron Hadenfeldt said that if they had done their jobs, Loras wouldn't of even been in that situation at the end of the game.  

did loras even have any actual yardage that they earned that drive, or was it all penalties?

I can't believe people aren't willing to admit defeat. The ball clearly was snapped milliseconds before the buzzer. I have seen the actual tape and it concurs. Just admit you lost and be good sports. There are plenty of games left in the season!

Go Duhawks!

there is no tape, the person taping didnt the endzone shot didnt get the final play... unless there were 2 people taping the endzone shot.  i'm hoping the line about clearly seeing something in milliseconds is sarcastic

i was with a bunch of loras people that day, and most of them admitted that it had ran out