FB: American Rivers Conference

[Ash Park]

congrats, it shows the last play... it doesnt show the time, which is what i was saying.  there was no tape of the final play with the clock showing.  if you have it, why not show it?  is it because you dont want people to see what really happened? 
i know that this doenst make a difference, but it's terrible that these refs won't be disciplined, and have the chance to screw over another team.  am i bitter? or pissed? sure am.  i am not the only one.  every coe fan and player is pissed about this.  everyone else would be to.  you can't say you wouldnt be.  i hope it comes back to bite loras, by the same refs.  i was with plenty of loras people that said the clock had expired.  there is no way in hell that you can hear the buzzer go off, dont kid yourself.  call me bitter or whatever you want, but i just hate to see a win taken out of players hands.  yeah they shouldnt have been in that situation, you can say that, but they stopped them when it matters, and 60 minutes had been up, and the game should have been over.  they stuffed them on the final play of the game.

Amen, brother! This isn't sour grapes, it was robbery. I'm still hoarse and it wasn't from cheering. I was near the officials as they left the field and, like everyone in the house, was voicing my displeasure. One of them lunged toward me and yelled, "Why don't you do it?" Granted, it was an ugly scene. By reacting, this crew only made a bad situation worse. A suspension seems in order, but I'd settle for never having this group officiate another Coe game, home or away, ever.

I agree that the ref should not have said that.  The best move would have been is to keep mouth shut and get the heck out of there.

To me the fact that the ref actually lunged at you and replied back proves he is not cut out to be a collegiate referee. I understand he was probably under some pressure and it was a very intense situation, but as a ref if you to be able to keep your cool and ingore that stuff and just move on. I know I know a lot easier said than done.

[DutchFan2004]

Here is to hoping Coe knows how to respond...

Thanks and I have no worries there. Teams with chips on their shoulders are dangerous.

i agree with this.  I am not saying this but some teams could fold after a game like this.  I don't expect Coe to fold but they have a little more to play for now.  This could make the a more dangerous team or it could lead to their downfall.  Time will tell I would think that with the success they have had recently they will feed off this and turn things around.

[Ash Park]

Obviously it isn't going to change but just thought I would share that there are more people than just Coe supporters that think they got a raw deal.

Wow. Even a Ham is on our side on this one. Thanks Ash. +k

haha don't get too use to it!!  

[Charlie Kohawk]

I would hope that officials have no steak in the outcome and do not care who wins.  

One thing I do have a question on is the third to last play was that for a first down?

Except one would think officials would have some steak in calling a good game and caring about their jobs. That wasn't evident.

Yes, it was a first down.

[Ash Park]

People are just lurking on here to get that 1400

[DutchFan2004]

Obviously it isn't going to change but just thought I would share that there are more people than just Coe supporters that think they got a raw deal.

Wow. Even a Ham is on our side on this one. Thanks Ash. +k

haha don't get too use to it!!  

This Coe Cornell lovefest is a little hard to take.  You guys better quit it now.  

[DutchFan2004]

People are just lurking on here to get that 1400

No just paying attention to the lovefest.  When Purple Joins in I know that the hot place is freezing over.   

[Ash Park]

I know I almost feel like I should go to confession now or something

[DutchFan2004]

I know I almost feel like I should go to confession now or something

Or break out in a chorus of Kum by ah

[DutchFan2004]

Doolittle is out there being awful quiet.  He is not usually this quiet.  Whats up Dog?

[doolittledog]

Purple I will have to disagree with you when the Wartburg announcer's were talking about the crowd from Cornell. I don't believe they were making fun of Cornell or blaming the players as they said it was a shame that not more people came to the game to support  a good team meaning Cornell. That was my take of the comment.

Maybe I'm a little sensitive, be they seemed, to me, to be making light of a situation that is really Purple....err...Apples to Oranges when comparing Wartburg attendance to Cornell.

No doubt thousands travel from Waverly to watch the games when contested at Ash Park...   

Year in and year out Wartburg does bring a large contingent of fans hit the road. I'd say the number of Wart fans on the road the rivals the amount of Central fans.

Last year Cornell's largest home game attendance WAS Wartburg.

Many factors go in to how a school travels.  

1. Cornell has the smallest enrollment in the IIAC
2. Cornells 1 course at a time means every 3 1/2 weeks the students are moving on to their next class.  Meaning Saturdays they might HAVE a class or figure they better be spending that day studying.
3. Of a roster of approximately 65, probably 50 are from out of state.  Not many family members will be making the trip to see their son play.
4. Mt. Vernon has the smallest population of any IIAC town.  
5. The Rams have gone 2-30 over the last 4 seasons in conference play.  That doesn't necessarily get one in the mood to pack up the car with tailgating supplies and head across Iowa to see your team play.  
6. How many away fans sit on the home side during games because they are closer to concessions and bathrooms???

I know things have changed since I was in school many moons ago and Dubuque is pretty far away for most schools.  But back then Central was the only school that brought a noticable contigant of travelling fans.  And that was when they were only a few years removed from a Stagg Bowl appearance or two.  Coe and Cornell weren't in the conference then.  Luther, UIU, Wartburg and of course Loras were the only somewhat close schools and they never brought a ton of fans...even Loras didn't bring a sizable crowd with them for some reason.  

I have a feeling any IIAC school would struggle to bring a sizable number of fans to an away game if they were to swap won/loss records with Cornell from the last 5 seasons.  

[Charlie Kohawk]

This Coe Cornell lovefest is a little hard to take.  You guys better quit it now.  

So glad Cornell is in the rear view, all things considered.

[doolittledog]

Doolittle is out there being awful quiet.  He is not usually this quiet.  Whats up Dog?

Just waiting to get onto page 1,400 

And thinking deep thoughts as well

[DutchFan2004]

Purple I will have to disagree with you when the Wartburg announcer's were talking about the crowd from Cornell. I don't believe they were making fun of Cornell or blaming the players as they said it was a shame that not more people came to the game to support  a good team meaning Cornell. That was my take of the comment.

Maybe I'm a little sensitive, be they seemed, to me, to be making light of a situation that is really Purple....err...Apples to Oranges when comparing Wartburg attendance to Cornell.

No doubt thousands travel from Waverly to watch the games when contested at Ash Park...   

Year in and year out Wartburg does bring a large contingent of fans hit the road. I'd say the number of Wart fans on the road the rivals the amount of Central fans.

Last year Cornell's largest home game attendance WAS Wartburg.

Many factors go in to how a school travels.  

1. Cornell has the smallest enrollment in the IIAC
2. Cornells 1 course at a time means every 3 1/2 weeks the students are moving on to their next class.  Meaning Saturdays they might HAVE a class or figure they better be spending that day studying.
3. Of a roster of approximately 65, probably 50 are from out of state.  Not many family members will be making the trip to see their son play.
4. Mt. Vernon has the smallest population of any IIAC town.  
5. The Rams have gone 2-30 over the last 4 seasons in conference play.  That doesn't necessarily get one in the mood to pack up the car with tailgating supplies and head across Iowa to see your team play.  
6. How many away fans sit on the home side during games because they are closer to concessions and bathrooms???

I know things have changed since I was in school many moons ago and Dubuque is pretty far away for most schools.  But back then Central was the only school that brought a noticable contigant of travelling fans.  And that was when they were only a few years removed from a Stagg Bowl appearance or two.  Coe and Cornell weren't in the conference then.  Luther, UIU, Wartburg and of course Loras were the only somewhat close schools and they never brought a ton of fans...even Loras didn't bring a sizable crowd with them for some reason.  

I have a feeling any IIAC school would struggle to bring a sizable number of fans to an away game if they were to swap won/loss records with Cornell from the last 5 seasons.  

Doolittle you can speak to this as well.  Doesn't UD have some of that same trouble.  They have many players that are from out of town and some great distances. 

[Ash Park]

I have to admit though when I first heard about it I was glad that Coe lost then I talked to some people and started thinking well maybe they screwed then when my buddy from Loras and all his buddies even thought that clock was at all zeroes before the ball was snapped I had to take the Kohawk side. Never like to see that happen to anyone. I want to reiterate though that if they would have played with some discipline and up to their capabilities they would have never have been in that situation.